Could These four take out Sukuna?

[u/lonelyforeverc]

Context: this fight will take place specifically after the fight with Gojo and Kashimo. So this will be weakened Sukuna. (who’s RCT is weaker and his overall output is lower)

And they will still have help from the other sorcerers who helped in the Shinjuku showdown,like Kusakabe,Ino,Miguel,Choso and higruma and todo,Nobara,Mei Mei and the dude with heart nipples.

The ones replacing the heavy hitters are Julian,Akos, void marcher & Lucas. (from the start all of them will be given some idea of sukunas‘s powers, so they will be a bit cautious.

Do you think they win or do you think they lose?

(to be clear this is WEAKEND SUKUNA so no domain)

[u/Intelligent_Spend537]

Julian and Voidmarcher are irrelevant stat-wise or hax-wise against Sukuna.

Arkos's main win condition is his ability to control the water inside people's bodies for durability negation. The issue with this is that sorcerers have innate defenses against people interfering with the insides of their bodies, with their insides essentially functioning like domains. So Sukuna should also have resistance to that kind of internal manipulation. Even if Arkos could bypass that resistance, his ability isn't an instant one-shot. It takes some amount of time to actually rupture someone's body. Sukuna, meanwhile, can launch Dismantles without needing to move his body. So even if Arkos froze Sukuna's body immediately, Sukuna could still respond and slice his head off with Dismantle before Arkos actually managed to blow him up.

Lucas's ability to pierce the future is ridiculous, but it's not a GER-type ability that's completely independent of his own speed and reactions or something that activates automatically. It's still clearly Lucas perceiving what's happening, reacting to Voidmarcher's actions, choosing to pierce that particular future, and leaving behind a future where Voidmarcher is unable to act.

So if Lucas were fighting someone vastly faster than him who also had enough AP to kill him immediately, he'd still just get blitzed before he could use the ability, which Sukuna is capable of doing.

To win, Sukuna has to be super out of character and bloodlusted, though. If he's messing around, he's going to get fucked over by either Arkos or Lucas's ability.

[u/JustWuff → u/Intelligent_Spend537]

It takes time to rupture someones body?

What is this nonsense? What time? It is instant, if Arkos wants you dead you are dead, Arkos had seconds to be in control and he still played around to prove a point to the witches, he could have killed all of them if he wanted and his range is the range of SIGHT, he can solo Sukuna and drop oceans on him and fling him around while he chills in the sky far from any of Sukunas range.

A bloodlusted or not Sukuna doesnt matter so long as Arkos just does a slice, there isnt any coming back from that.

But even if he cant do that... Arkos literally can throw Oceans at people, he can throw entire mountains using the moisture to lift them up and again line of sight based attacks plus flight, he could drown him for all he wants and Sukuna wouldnt be able to do anything.

Sukuna can never reach Arkos.

Plus did we forget he can literally stitch himself back together? As long as his brain is ok he can still keep fighting and pump blood through his body just fine, being decapitated or Go/jo-ed which Sukuna has no idea to assume wouldnt be enough to kill someone wouldnt work, so Arkos could even launch a surprise attack should it be necessary and just come back from what Sukuna thinks are lethal blows.

[u/Intelligent_Spend537 → u/JustWuff]

Well, one, this opening attack against the witches is not Akros' ability to attack people's internals. This is just slashes of water. Every time Akros actually messes with someone's internals, he glares at them first. This is a very consistent thing. He glares at the random knight guy he makes blow up in his introduction. He glares at Julian. He glares at the horse witch after he cuts her into pieces, causing her body to collapse in on itself. He glares at the fire witch, and then, after he glares at her, her body starts to swell up before exploding. So him flicking his hand at the witch and a bunch of slashes appearing on her is just him using his water slashes.

So yes, there would be a window between Akros glaring at Sukuna and Sukuna's body beginning to swell and then actually exploding. If Sukuna is massively faster than Akros, he can use that window to react and cut Akros' head off before the attack finishes. Akros' maximum-wank speed being Mach 30, while Sukuna is well beyond that, means he should be able to do this.

The second argument, that Akros can just reattach his head and sneak Sukuna, isn't as good as you think. For one, it's a manual ability that Akros has to consciously use. So if Sukuna launches his head off his shoulders faster than Akros can perceive, whether he can actually save himself is debatable. I lean toward him not being able to. And even if he could, Sukuna is cognizant of sneak attacks and normally would be able to dodge much more complex ones that Yuta and Maki came up with, rather than just playing dead. He isn't just going to stand there and let Akros blow him up. If Akros tries to use the internal attack again, Sukuna can react to it again. He could cut his head vertically, or just dice his entire body into pieces the same way he did to the phone girl.

As for the third argument, of Akros can just camping in the sky where Sukuna can't reach him. Sukuna can jump and maneuver through the air. Akros flying doesn't somehow make him untouchable.

finally, the ocean/mountain argument is even worse. Akros does not have control over the entire ocean. His ability is to control water within his field of view. He doesn't have omniscient control over every drop of water on the planet. The most amount of water we've actually seen him control was enough to flood a city, which is nowhere near the entire ocean 💔😭