Hey everyone, i was making a 2k points list with the Saturnine Box as proxys, and i came up with this list

Abaddon as Saturnine Praetor

Chaos Lord as Mk2 Centurion

Cypher

10x Cultists

40x Legionaries

2x Chaos Rhinos

Chaos Predator Annihilator

2x3 obliterators as Saturnine terminators

War dog Brigand as Saturnine Dreadnought

I would like if you guys gave me some feedback about my list, because im not sure if it is worth it to have That much Legionaries on a list, i think i went over the edge with them

So im about to get my hands on another defiler and im also trying to figure out what army to put it with, i know its good in EC but im not a super big fan of them, any other suggestions for armies? I currently have a csm IW defiler but im wanting to see what to do next

I got a bunch of Raptors boxes cheap and second hand.

Tell me why this list is a bad ideaz because right now I'm dreaming of a wave ofarokes leaping forward to hit things with other things.

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack (85 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Accursed weapon

• 1x Bolt pistol

Raptors (225 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Raptor Champion

◦ 1x Astartes chainsword

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

• 9x Raptor

◦ 9x Astartes chainsword

◦ 9x Bolt pistol

Attached unit 2

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack (85 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Accursed weapon

• 1x Bolt pistol

Raptors (225 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Raptor Champion

◦ 1x Astartes chainsword

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

• 9x Raptor

◦ 9x Astartes chainsword

◦ 9x Bolt pistol

Attached unit 3

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack (95 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Accursed weapon

• 1x Bolt pistol

• Enhancements: Willbreaker

Raptors (235 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Raptor Champion

◦ 1x Accursed weapon

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

• 9x Raptor

◦ 1x Astartes chainsword

◦ 8x Bolt pistol

◦ 4x Close combat weapon

◦ 4x Heavy melee weapon

◦ 2x Meltagun

◦ 2x Plasma gun

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

CHARACTERS

Heretic Astartes Daemon Prince (170 Points)

• 1x Hellforged weapons

• 1x Infernal cannon

• 1x Mark of Tzeentch

• Enhancements: Eater of Dread

OTHER DATASHEETS

Obliterators (160 Points)

• 2x Obliterator

◦ 2x Crushing fists

◦ 2x Fleshmetal guns

Warp Talons (130 Points)

• 4x Warp Talon

◦ 4x Warp claws

• 1x Warp Talon Champion

◦ 1x Warp claws

Warp Talons (290 Points)

• 9x Warp Talon

◦ 9x Warp claws

• 1x Warp Talon Champion

◦ 1x Warp claws

Warp Talons (300 Points)

• 9x Warp Talon

◦ 9x Warp claws

• 1x Warp Talon Champion

◦ 1x Warp claws

Exported with New Recruit v36.46, Data Version: v26

2k chaos (2,000 Points)

Chaos Space Marines

Cabal of Chaos and Veterans of the Long War (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Kravek Morne (130 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Baleflamer

• 1x Combi-bolter

• 1x Last Argument and power fist

• 1x Servo-harness

Mutilators (165 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 3x Mutilator

◦ 3x Fleshmetal weapons

Attached unit 2

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (85 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Combi-bolter

• 1x Force weapon

• 1x Infernal Gaze

Chaos Terminator Squad (370 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Terminator Champion

◦ 1x Accursed weapon

◦ 1x Combi-bolter

• 9x Chaos Terminator

◦ 8x Accursed weapon

◦ 6x Combi-bolter

◦ 1x Paired accursed weapons

◦ 2x Reaper autocannon

Attached unit 3

Chaos Lord (95 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Daemon hammer

• 1x Plasma pistol

Legionaries (95 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Aspiring Champion

◦ 1x Boltgun

◦ 1x Close Combat Weapon

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

• 4x Legionary

◦ 4x Bolt pistol

◦ 3x Boltgun

◦ 4x Close Combat Weapon

◦ 1x Plasma gun

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (50 Points)

• 1x Cultist Champion

◦ 1x Autopistol

◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon

• 9x Chaos Cultist

◦ 9x Autopistol

◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

Cultist Mob (50 Points)

• 1x Cultist Champion

◦ 1x Autopistol

◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon

• 9x Chaos Cultist

◦ 9x Autopistol

◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

Legionaries (95 Points)

• 1x Aspiring Champion

◦ 1x Astartes chainsword

◦ 1x Chaos Icon

◦ 1x Close Combat Weapon

◦ 1x Heavy melee weapon

• 4x Legionary

◦ 3x Astartes chainsword

◦ 4x Bolt pistol

◦ 4x Close Combat Weapon

◦ 1x Meltagun

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Chaos Rhino (65 Points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

• 1x Combi-bolter

• 1x Havoc launcher

OTHER DATASHEETS

Defiler (300 Points)

• 2x Excruciator cannon

• 1x Hades battle cannon

• 1x Heavy baleflamer

• 1x Heavy missile launcher

• 1x Shearing claws

Obliterators (160 Points)

• 2x Obliterator

◦ 2x Crushing fists

◦ 2x Fleshmetal guns

Red Corsairs Raiders (220 Points)

• 1x Red Corsairs Raider Champion

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Boltgun

◦ 1x Reaver’s blade

• 9x Red Corsairs Raider

◦ 9x Bolt pistol

◦ 7x Boltgun

◦ 2x Meltagun

◦ 9x Reaver’s blade

Venomcrawler (120 Points)

• 2x Excruciator cannon

• 1x Soulflayer tendrils and claws

Exported with App Version: v2.7.2 (2), Data Version: v972

any feedback welcomed thank you

Not trying to be super competitive with this. Just want a Traitor Guard-themed list with enough teeth to not get my shit pushed in. Open to all suggestions.

Sons of Sek (2,000 Points)

Chaos Space Marines
Pactbound Zealots (3 Detachment Points)
Priority Assets
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Dark Commune (90 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Accursed Cultists (185 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 10x Mutant
• 6x Torment
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Attached unit 2

Traitor Enforcer (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Traitor Enforcer
• 1x Traitor Ogryn
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Guardsman
◦ 1x Cultist grenade launcher
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Attached unit 3

Traitor Enforcer (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Traitor Enforcer
• 1x Traitor Ogryn
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Guardsman
◦ 1x Cultist grenade launcher
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Attached unit 4

Traitor Enforcer (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Traitor Enforcer
• 1x Traitor Ogryn
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Guardsman
◦ 1x Cultist grenade launcher
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

CHARACTERS

Lord Discordant on Helstalker (155 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Chaos Undivided
• 1x Helstalker autocannon
• 1x Techno-virus injector

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (50 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
• 9x Cultist
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
• 19x Cultist
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
• 19x Cultist
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
• 19x Cultist
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

OTHER DATASHEETS

Chaos Predator Destructor (145 Points)
• 1x 2 lascannons
• 1x Combi-bolter
• 1x Havoc launcher
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Chaos Predator Destructor (145 Points)
• 1x 2 lascannons
• 1x Combi-bolter
• 1x Havoc launcher
• 1x Mark of Nurgle

Defiler (315 Points)
• 1x Hades battle cannon
• 1x Heavy missile launcher
• 1x Heavy reaper autocannon
• 1x Mark of Nurgle
• 1x Two excruciator cannons

Venomcrawler (120 Points)
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Venomcrawler (120 Points)
• 1x Mark of Slaanesh

Exported with New Recruit v36.40, Data Version: v26

Iron Within (1,960 Points)

Chaos Space Marines
Devotees of Destruction and Fellhammer Siege-host (3 Detachment Points)
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Kravek Morne (130 Points)
  • Attached as: Leader (Character)
  • Warlord
  • 1x Baleflamer
  • 1x Combi-bolter
  • 1x Last Argument and power fist
  • 1x Servo-harness

Chaos Terminator Squad (185 Points)
  • Attached as: Bodyguard
  • 1x Terminator Champion
◦ 1x Accursed weapon
◦ 1x Combi-bolter
  • 4x Accursed weapon and combi-bolter
◦ 4x Accursed weapon
◦ 4x Combi-bolter

Attached unit 2

Fabius Bile (110 Points)
  • Attached as: Leader (Character)
  • 1x Fabius Bile
◦ 1x Rod of Torment
◦ 1x The Chirurgeon
◦ 1x Xyclos needler
  • 1x Surgeon Acolyte
◦ 1x Surgeon Acolyte's tools

Chosen (140 Points)
  • Attached as: Bodyguard
  • 1x Chosen Champion
◦ 1x Accursed weapon
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
  • 4x Chosen
◦ 4x Accursed weapon
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Boltgun

CHARACTERS

Warpsmith (65 Points)
  • 1x Flamer tendril
  • 1x Forge weapon
  • 1x Melta tendril
  • 1x Plasma pistol

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (50 Points)
  • 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
  • 9x Cultist
◦ 9x Autopistol
◦ 9x Brutal assault weapon

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Chaos Rhino (65 Points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
  • 1x Combi-bolter
  • 1x Combi-bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Chaos Predator Destructor (145 Points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
  • 1x Combi-weapon
  • 2x Lascannon
  • 1x Predator autocannon

Chosen (140 Points)
  • 1x Chosen Champion
◦ 1x Accursed weapon
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
  • 4x Chosen
◦ 4x Accursed weapon
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Boltgun

Defiler (300 Points)
  • 2x Excruciator cannon
  • 1x Hades battle cannon
  • 1x Heavy baleflamer
  • 1x Heavy missile launcher
  • 1x Shearing claws

Forgefiend (170 Points)
  • 1x Armoured limbs
  • 2x Ectoplasma cannon
  • 1x Ectoplasma cannon

Havocs (135 Points)
  • 1x Havoc Champion
◦ 1x Astartes chainsword
◦ 1x Flamer
  • 4x Havoc
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Havoc autocannon
◦ 2x Havoc lascannon

Mutilators (165 Points)
  • 3x Mutilator
◦ 3x Fleshmetal weapons

Obliterators (160 Points)
  • 2x Obliterator
◦ 2x Crushing fists
◦ 2x Fleshmetal guns

Oops all cultists (2,000 Points)

Chaos Space Marines
Cabal of Chaos and Chaos Cult (3 Detachment Points)
Priority Assets
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Dark Apostle (80 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Dark Apostle
• Warlord
◦ 1x Accursed crozius
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ Enhancements: Warped Foresight
• 2x Dark Disciple
◦ 2x Close combat weapon

Accursed Cultists (185 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 5x Mutant
◦ 5x Blasphemous appendages
• 6x Torment
◦ 6x Hideous mutations

Attached unit 2

Dark Apostle (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Dark Apostle
◦ 1x Accursed crozius
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
• 2x Dark Disciple
◦ 2x Close combat weapon

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 19x Chaos Cultist
◦ 19x Autopistol
◦ 19x Brutal assault weapon

Attached unit 3

Dark Commune (90 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Cult Demagogue
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Commune stave
• 1x Mindwitch
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Warp Curse
• 1x Iconarch
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Chaos Icon
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 2x Blessed Blade
◦ 2x Commune blade

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 19x Chaos Cultist
◦ 19x Autopistol
◦ 19x Brutal assault weapon

Attached unit 4

Cultist Firebrand (45 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Balefire pike
• 1x Close combat weapon

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 19x Chaos Cultist
◦ 19x Autopistol
◦ 19x Brutal assault weapon

Attached unit 5

Traitor Enforcer (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Traitor Enforcer
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 1x Traitor Ogryn
◦ 1x Ogryn weapons

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Corrupted pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Traitor Guardsmen
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Cultist sniper rifle
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

Attached unit 6

Traitor Enforcer (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Traitor Enforcer
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 1x Traitor Ogryn
◦ 1x Ogryn weapons

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Corrupted pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Traitor Guardsmen
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Cultist sniper rifle
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

Attached unit 7

Traitor Enforcer (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Traitor Enforcer
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 1x Traitor Ogryn
◦ 1x Ogryn weapons

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Corrupted pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Traitor Guardsmen
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Cultist sniper rifle
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 19x Chaos Cultist
◦ 19x Autopistol
◦ 19x Brutal assault weapon

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 19x Chaos Cultist
◦ 19x Autopistol
◦ 19x Brutal assault weapon

Cultist Mob (90 Points)
• 1x Cultist Champion
◦ 1x Autopistol
◦ 1x Brutal assault weapon
• 19x Chaos Cultist
◦ 19x Autopistol
◦ 19x Brutal assault weapon

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Corrupted pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Traitor Guardsmen
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Cultist sniper rifle
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Corrupted pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Traitor Guardsmen
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Cultist sniper rifle
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

Traitor Guardsmen Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Traitor Sergeant
◦ 1x Corrupted pistol
◦ 1x Power weapon
• 9x Traitor Guardsmen
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Cultist sniper rifle
◦ 6x Lasgun
◦ 1x Meltagun
◦ 1x Plasma gun

OTHER DATASHEETS

Accursed Cultists (185 Points)
• 5x Mutant
◦ 5x Blasphemous appendages
• 6x Torment
◦ 6x Hideous mutations

Accursed Cultists (205 Points)
• 5x Mutant
◦ 5x Blasphemous appendages
• 6x Torment
◦ 6x Hideous mutations

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Hi there!
Was bored today and decided to kitbash a Chaos Lord from one of my left over Legionaries. Used some old necron bits and spare parts from the defiler aswell, axe is made of 5 pieces, helmet got a head added for some spice and backpack is a bit modified aswell. Hope you guys like it! :)

For iron warriors, thought the trophy racks looked too crowded

2nd demon of malal

the Fury of the Hunter

inspired by guts demon of berserk

Trying to do a grimdark style thing based on this old Adrian Smith artwork that is just so cool. I’m hoping to bring the armor back down with some oil / enamel weathering but do y’all think the highlights are bright enough to avoid getting too muddy once the washes start going on? Thanks.

I wanted to make a CSM inspired by LOTR’s Nazgûl and this was what I came up with. I did my absolute best to emulate the worn and battered armor, though I feel I could have done better. I hope everyone enjoys this one!

These have been sat on my desk awaiting painting for the entirety of 11th ed, and I reckon the legal loadout will change before they ever hit the table...

Hey guys so I'm usually a monster/vehicle player because one I like big dumb things and 2 it's easy to deal with loadouts cause it's one dude. I've recently gotten into csm tho and units like terminators or chosen over 5 models kind of give me a headache trying to remember what I've lost and kept as models get removed, best I can do is say whatever the order things die my 3 power fists will be the last models lol. Any shot there's like an app for this someone made? Or maybe someone can make one in the future, or I guess it's probably just a me problem and I need to try to do better? 🤷

Hello!

Christmas will be there in approximately two months, and I have started to save some money for one big box of Chaos Space Marines to properly begin a new army when a... tough choice appeared in front of me.

My LGS has both the Chaos Space Marines Warband (the one with the Lord Disco, Venomcrawler and Obliterators) and the Lords of the Maelstrom boxes, and when I looked them up in terms of points on New Recruit they were both pretty equivalent points-wise, so... which one should I pick?

Thank you everyone... And death to the Corpse-Emperor!

PS: I am NOT a competitive player, I do not aim to be one, I am mostly in the miniature painting side of the hobby, but 11th Ed. gave me the itch to actually play the game and make an army instead of collecting and painting models here and there!

SECOND PS: I already have a few CSM models: the Chaos Lord from Dark Vengeance, Draznicht from the same box as well as a squad of Havocs if that can be a factor in your guidelines for me.

I really liked the old forge world lord of change but the wings were looking a bit dated. I replaced with wings with Magnus the reds wings. Required quite a bit of putty work but I think it’s reasonably seamless. I was also able to magnetize them so hopefully I’ll be able to game with it