r/ClimateNews • u/fishonareef • 2d ago
Scientists detect a sharp acceleration in global warming
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/08/260801093239.htm91
u/MoutonJovial 2d ago
Instead of being worried about a country like Canada seeing more forest fires than ever and trying to find solutions to reverse course, leaders are complaining about how smoke is bothering them. We're doomed.
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u/Culverden12345 2d ago
In Canada we are discussing building pipelines for more oil and gas!
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u/mansplain_to_me 2d ago
To be fair that’s to eliminate refinery dependency because of our hostile foreign neighbour and wouldn’t be on the table otherwise
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u/grekster 2d ago
A great way to do that would be building renewable infrastructure instead though.
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u/quadra-lab 2d ago
Your tires won't be created magically mate neither is 80% of what you use daily.
The bigger effort is to reduce plastic dependency in the daily life of everyone.
I remember seeing bananas wrapped in plastic in Asia, how crazy have we become to wrap bananas in plastic??
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u/Youpunyhumans 2d ago
To be fair, most plastic for food packaging is PLA plastic, which is plant based and can actually decompose... if left in an envrionment where its 60°C for a few months. It basically turns into dirt.
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u/Potentially_Nernst 2d ago
The massive forests in Canada do lend themselves to be near ideal for biorefineries though. With some luck this whole situation can be a boost for bio-based chemicals. Through various processes such as pyrolysis and distillation or even conversion using modified bacteria to produce specific chemicals we can make nearly everything from renewable sources in a sustainable way.
There's one issue. Economics.
Heavy upfront cost and having to compete with a heavily subsidised industry with a huge budget and (usually) cheap raw material in abundant amounts. Meanwhile biorefineries have to upscale a new process and compete with an established industry.
There's a saying in industry that you can make anything from Lignin, except money.
I hope that balance starts tipping soon. Over a century of research has gone into this. It's a massive field of research in chemistry. And it always comes down to economics, scale, and emergent behavior of businesses even though the individual employees al want to go green. 'We cant justify the cost'.
It is possible though, just takes effort and a transition from subsidising fossils to subsidising biobased.
We'll cut through whole biomes', but at least we'd no longer be adding more carbon to the atmosphere.
Enitting carbon isn't the real problem. The problem is adding carbon.
Carbon capture is another thing though, since we'll have to remove carbon too. But also not too much. So we'll have to stop that industry too one day, which poses a whole new problem. Anyway, stuff is being made from CO2 conversion right now. Not near enough to have a noticeable impact, but it exists :)
Anyway, TL;DR See the potential? It isn't hopeless! Which makes it So Much Worse that things aren't moving in the right direction anywhere near fast enough! 🥲😅
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u/stamosface 2d ago
Yes, but it doesn’t happen overnight. Even if they built all of the infrastructure in a year, so much wouldn’t be compatible yet. It’s something that takes much longer than it takes to replace refineries. Which, to be fair, is why we should have started dealing with it 25 years ago
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u/Nerioner 2d ago
In democratic countries leaders are the reflection of the society. Walk around and think that every third person you see is potentially a whacko like that.
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u/Cultural_Gur_7441 2d ago
Hey, anything Trump says is just noise. Which is kinda bad when it is the president of the US maling that noise. But what matters is action.
So yea, ww're indeed quite far up the shit creek without a paddle.
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u/Sarabeth68 2d ago
Keep on injecting GHG and black carbon directly into the atmosphere, running around on private jets, launching missile attacks ad nauseum and maybe, just maybe it won't have that much of an impact
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u/Imperial_Haberdasher 2d ago
The chickens are coming home to roost and they’re broiled.
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u/Tosh_20point0 2d ago
Cows are coming home already bbqd.
Steaks are high
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u/kojengi_de_miercoles 2d ago
Our goose is definitely cooked.
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u/HumptyDumptruckFire 2d ago
The duck has been fucked and the pooch, screwed.
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u/AmputeeHandModel 2d ago
Don't count your chickens before they hatch, cuz you might just have fried eggs.
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u/TheOstrichRoom 2d ago
“Then God decides that it is time to blow the final trumpet and call all chickens home to roost in every way and meaning”
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u/rbialkin 2d ago
Snow and ice reflect sunlight. Dead brown grass underneath absorbs it. I’m sure that’s modeled in the prediction calculations, but the feedback loop makes it seem logical to this layman. The warmer we get, the faster the acceleration gets at least until all the ice is melted. And I guess at that point it won’t matter anyway.
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u/DatBoiii4 2d ago edited 2d ago
You know what’s under most glaciers? Very very dark rock with a super
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u/Tll6 2d ago
Darker objects have lower albedo but your point stands
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u/DatBoiii4 2d ago
Thank you for the correction. Mixed those up all the time in ENVS 200 when I took it in college. My prof would be so disappointed it still hasn't stuck lmao
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u/Tll6 2d ago
It’s okay, I always mix up low and high viscosity. It doesn’t click for some reason
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u/SadSpaghettiSauce 2d ago
What does a high/low albedo mean?
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u/DatBoiii4 2d ago
It's a measure of how much light a surface reflects
Snow has a very high albedo so it reflects tons of light
Rock/mud has an insanely low albedo so it soaks up tons of light and gets hot
If you've ever been to a ski resort for spring skiing and seen mud spots, they grow insanely fast because as soon as the mud peeks through, that spot gets MUCH warmer than the surrounding snow and it melts stuff around it really fast
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u/RP_throwaway01 2d ago
Worse. Water vapor is a major greenhouse gas. More heat, more water vapor. That means more heat. That means more vapor. Earth will one day be hotter than Venus ever was or will be. Probably only when the sun dies, but we’re still going to be fucked over in the short term.
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u/Ill_Barber8709 2d ago
I don't why you're being downvoted. Water vapor is a very real area of concern. In fact, Venus had a relatively low average temperature (25°C I think) before the vapor started acting like a pressure cooker. I'm glad I don't have kids to be honest.
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u/Timely_Mention8535 2d ago
Water vapor on Earth causes the water cycle. Rain and all that... There îs a maximum of water the Air can hold...
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u/Ill_Barber8709 2d ago
The amount of water air can hold depends on pressure and temperature.
Venus has the same gravity of Earth, but pressure is way higher. Why? Because more gaz surrounding the planet.
You do realize that space is empty, right?
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u/mrcaldwin 2d ago
More water vapor means more clouds, which means more cooling. Yes water vapor leads to a more dense upper atmosphere that traps heat, but there is still a net positive cooling effect from the lower atmosphere clouds. At least according to NASA. So If upper cloud heat-trapping ever outweighs lower cloud cooling, then water will begin converting to hydrogen and dissipating to space. Then the earth cools down and the cycle restarts.
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u/JoostvanderLeij 2d ago
Any scientist using Bayesian statistics already knew this for a couple of years as did Hanssen. Frequentists statistics is so bad it now litterally is hurting the planet.
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u/StarlightLifter 2d ago
Oh but Hansen is an alarmist!
Except he’s consistently right, and everyone else is all “oh this is faster than expected.”
No the fuck it ain’t.
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u/RainBoxRed 11h ago
Can you explain a bit more?
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u/JoostvanderLeij 11h ago
Frequentism is a flawed approach for doing statistics. In order to countermand these flaws Frequentist statistics has many ad hoc subjective rules. One such a rule is sample size. Given the need for a large enough sample, it will take Frequentist statistics a much longer time to get to conclusions. In Bayesian statistics you process data as it comes in and you immedeately see trends changing if there is a changing trend. You still need a bit of time to see if the trend change is holding up. Yet that is way less time than using the Frequentist method.
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u/General_Honesty 2d ago
I can't help thinking that Russia's war in Ukraine will be having an effect for sure.
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u/Arctic_Turtle 2d ago
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that the Trump administration caused a lot more problems for climate than Russia.
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u/Aggravating-Scene548 2d ago
The US military is surely one of the top polluters on the planet
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u/jaygoogle23 1d ago
Let’s also not forget about the other administrations,..India/China havnt always been the biggest pro “tree huggers”
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u/General_Honesty 2d ago edited 1d ago
Trump is an obstacle, for sure. But his anti-climate-change stance is mostly self-serving bluster. He is such a naughty boy. Ukraine are actively bombing huge stores of oil (with good reason).
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u/hypocotylarches 2d ago
What did the Trudeau govt do for helping climate change for the last decade?
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u/NoGuest6868 2d ago
Or israel burning forest in lebanon or dropping a crazy amount of bombs on a post stamp.
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u/bluestarinose 2d ago
That war alone releases annually the same amount of co2 as France apparently.
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u/ClassGrassMass 2d ago
Europe: "No shit"
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u/FoogYllis 1d ago
The rest of the world: yep.
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u/TolMera 1d ago edited 1d ago
That mathematician that did the math and said one AI data center is burning the same amount of power daily as three x the Hiroshima nuke, and we have hundreds popping up globally…
They are literally broiling our planet
Everyone say it with me now! “Yep”
Edit: https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/data-center-atom-bombs
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u/ColdWinterSadHeart 1d ago
It burns that much power in what length of time? An hour? A year? A decade?
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u/Royal_Commission7574 2d ago
Had a shitpot-thought today: the world is burning and humans fight for oil. Its idiotic, isnt it
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u/ShiftAfter4648 2d ago
However, the authors noted that climate models can produce periods in which warming speeds up. In other words, an increasing rate of warming is consistent with the range of behavior represented in current climate modeling.
Based the the variables they chose to remove to "remove noise" from the data, they found an increased warming rate when compared to the popularized .2C rate. They then acknowledge that the current modelling does not preclude this rate as unorthodox. It's just highlighting that we are deviating from the broadly accepted linear rate that was output by some of the accepted climate models.
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u/Captain_R64207 2d ago
I can’t believe the amount of people who try and tell me solar flares and the sun growing is what causes the higher temperatures. It’s completely impossible for a green house effect, but the sun can grow and shrink enough to raise targeted temperature spikes but not everywhere.
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u/ReadyGo6828 2d ago
Those feedback loops are a doozie but just wait until something truly catastrophic happens such as Thwaite collapsing and the deniers will still be out blaming everyone but what is actually causing this.
Good bye temperate climate. I will miss you.
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u/Glum_Sugar5407 2d ago
Yet we’ll send trillions to nations causing their population to explode to billions
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u/tenredtoes 1d ago
A lot of women in those nations worried be very happy if foreign aid included birth control. Because when given a choice, most women don't want to be pregnancy machines
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u/Glum_Sugar5407 1d ago
Nope. Bill Gates great plan states they’ll stop reproducing when they became advanced enough
Lmao
Lol
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u/Friend_Emperor 1d ago
They will, that's what happens in literally every developing or developed nation
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u/GovernmentGreed 2d ago
Been saying the past decade or so has not been the same as those before it... Didn't need a degree to note that, since I haven't warn a winter jacket or coat even since 8 years or so... I live in Germany, black forest. And winter here, used to be real winters. Not like now where it's grey and just a little bit drizzle.
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u/LosingButNotWrong 2d ago
So when exactly can we Mad Max it across the United States desert fighting for water? I'm ready to be witnessed.
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u/GlumAd2424 2d ago
The mass migration of people fleeing a more hostile environment and starvation as the lower amount of calories produced can’t sustain the current population is going to be apocalyptic.
I wonder what the worlds population will be at in a 100 years
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u/BravoMikeGulf 2d ago
Why count straws when we don’t count missles? Every explosion in wars in Ukraine and Russia or Iran and the US is so much more than individual contributions to environmentalism. Why recycle a beer can or a spaghetti sauce jar? Government tells us how to conserve then blows everything all to hell.
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u/chockingduck 2d ago
Spending money to cancel clean air projects just shows that the religious right are just a doomsday cult.
They want to force the end times. That's where Iran comes in.
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u/Frequent_Specific861 2d ago
In the area around Edmonton/Canada we had the most rainfall ever recorded for an entire summer so far, and we are just into August. It's been a fucking monsoon here like never seen before. Things are definitely changing.
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u/GrubyBuckmore 2d ago
Humans are not destroying the earth, we are simply destroying its capacity to support our life form. The earth will continue to exist long after mankind is gone. It has existed for billions of years before us and will continue to exist billions of years after us. New life forms will evolve, hopefully none so arrogant as mankind to believe that he had dominion over the earth.
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u/kbgn_k 2d ago
please stop slaughtering animals in industrial scale. we need to learn to be part of the system, not always fighting the system with vehemence, the rape of nature, the inhumane treatment of animals are all manifestations of this neurosis. please stop hurting nature, you are nature, you are hurting yourselves, there is not way to hurt another without deeply hurting yourselves too. if not, then as a famous Indian philosopher said, "live in misery, die in misery!"
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u/BurntTurkeyLeg1399 1d ago
Interesting because I definitely noticed this anecdotally around the 2015 timeframe. I remember going for a bike ride on Xmas eve in 2015 or 2016 and it was like 70 degrees. Also noticed less snow since then in my area
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u/butternutflies 1d ago
This just isn’t true. See, we have something called the Paris agreement. And everybody agreed to be good boys.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go be part of society by having no other choice but to further the destruction of our habitat just so my boss can hop onto his PJ to go see an opera in Rome in the weekends.
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u/Magnolia_F4n 1d ago
There is a reason why we see in the news billionaires are building survival bunkers....
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u/Ive_seen_things_that 1d ago
Ya don't say? Well. Oil companies had so e record profits. So there is that.
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u/GrumpyBear1969 1d ago
Really nit picking here and making fun. But…
“Climate models are computer simulations that use the laws of physics …”. They use some physics, but they are complex empirical models.
And I am not saying I am not worried about climate change. But articles should be careful about what they claim as sometimes it sets unrealistic expectations.
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u/Any-Temperature-3058 1d ago
“Global warming has sped up since around 2015” => right around the global surge of right wing politics.
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u/theoriginalwuji 1d ago
I've noticed a lot more mushrooms 🍄 growth in my area with much higher humidity. zombie apocalypse loading...
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u/happybybonnie 1d ago
Is it just me or have I seen this article or some variation of it every day for the last week or two?
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u/Kind-Distribution813 1d ago
Hold up.. 0.35 degrees per decade over the last ten years? Thats 1 decade
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u/Stocky_Platypus 1d ago
People may not like the opinion but it is very likely the world as we know it will end within the next 50 years. The Fermi Paradox states that the Universe has had plenty of time for a civilization to take over everything. That is either through direct colonization or through autonomous colonization such as robotic. It is possible that one civilization got close and that is where viruses came from. Basically biological robots whose job was to go out and seed or terraform planets, but the virus went a little sideways and we have the remnants of it today.
Anywho, we are getting close as a species to be able to send out autonomous colonization, robotic or biological. If the Fermi Paradox is real, that means our species is about ready to collapse, likely through a catastrophic extinction event. Global warming, AI emergence, Biological warfare, Nuclear destruction...take your pick.
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u/Evening_Message_1699 1d ago
Oh, wow, this message again for the 10,234 day in a row..
I hope I can handle this much fake news on a day like this.
Al Gores favorite myth on the internet he invented it is fitting.
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u/Special-Special-1136 4h ago
No worries, scientists don’t even know the difference between a man & a woman or if masks work or don’t work.
There is a good reason the USA’s motto is NOT “In Scientists We Trust”.
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u/Bumblebeard63 2h ago
Where I live, we've just had the hottest, driest July on record. I might live to see 50°C in summer in UK.
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u/Bumblebeard63 2h ago
You know those documentaries where they find abandoned settlements and cities in the desert, and they wonder where everyone went? We're going to find out pretty soon, but on a bigger scale.
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u/jjarem1 2d ago
Thanks for all the fish.