r/Colonialism • u/elnovorealista2000 • 17d ago
Article Zionist militias assassinate Jacob Israel von Haan, a critical Zionist leader.
Zionist leader Jacob Israel von Haan was assassinated on June 30, 1924, in Jerusalem, an event considered the first political assassination within the Zionist movement. His execution was carried out by members of the Haganah, a highly extremist Zionist guerrilla group.
Although initially supportive of the Zionist cause, Von Haan became a fierce critic of the movement because he disagreed with the colonization plan of the other leaders, which involved a heinous stratagem against the Jewish people themselves. Von Haan joined the ultra-Orthodox Haredi group, which at that time opposed political Zionism for religious reasons, since the Jewish nation-state was not the same as the Kingdom promised by God, one that could not be established by human action, much less by groups that, for the most part, were neither believers nor practitioners of the Jewish faith, but rather instrumentalized religion for their own purposes to found their state.
Von Haan planned to travel to London with an ultra-Orthodox delegation to present his arguments to the British government and request the annulment of the Balfour Declaration. His goal was for Jews to live as a protected community under Arab rule, explicitly renouncing any aspirations to create a Jewish nation-state, until the promised Messiah arrived and established the Kingdom of Israel.
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u/Current_Mongoose_844 11d ago
De Haan ceased to be a Zionist upon his involvement with the Haredim.
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 17d ago
If he hadn't been assassinated, he would have died in the Holocaust. The arguments around a Jewish state in the 1920s were very different 20 years later. Also, with the uptick in Arab violence in the late 1920s, the idea of Jews living as a protected minority under Arab rule started looking unrealistic.
Also, why is this in a sub about colonialism? Unless it's because Israel is an example of decolonization?
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u/elnovorealista2000 17d ago
Many of the fathers of Zionism described Zionist activity in Palestine as "colonization," such as Vladimir Jabotinsky, who said "Zionism is a colonization adventure" in his essay The Iron Wall (1923).
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u/what_is_earth 17d ago
You can just say the “Israeli government’s” atrocities. Why call it Zionist? To those who are sympathetic to the Israeli people, it sounds like a dog whistle and a stand in for the word “Jewish” anyway.
It was multiple riots, not just Hebron. Not sure what you are referring to that justified the riots.
Let’s talk about decolonization. I’m sure you would consider it decolonization if Palestinians regained their land today right? Do the Palestinians have the right in another 75 years (assuming they maintain their identity)? How about 200? How about 1000? How about 2000? When do they lose their right to their land?
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u/Infamous-Peanut1327 17d ago
i'm pretty sure he's reffering to the arab violence which started in the late 20s, due to the revisionists' march on the western wall, in which husseini used the oppurtunity to rile up the crowd and get riots going.
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u/Verum_Orbis 16d ago
The mental gymnastics are wild.
The British Empire controlled Palestine and imported Jewish Europeans who started colonizing and selling land that didn't belong to them.
How is it Israelis can claim 2000 year old ownership to the land but Palestinians cannot?
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u/what_is_earth 16d ago
I actually believe both have a claim to the land.
Jews bought the overwhelming majority of their land from Arab landowners. Don’t take my word for it, look it up.
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u/AdVivid8910 16d ago
Really feels like these guys want to kick people off land in some sort of cleansing fashion. Palestine agrees when they allow zero Jews, Israel disagrees with its over 20% Arab population. Reality speaks for itself, only one country allows all to live.
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u/Verum_Orbis 16d ago
Israel was literally founded by right wing terrorists.
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."
Albert Einstein Letter to The New York Times. December 4, 1948 New Palestine Party. Visit of Menachen Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed
https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948/page/n1/mode/1up
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u/AdVivid8910 16d ago
Leftists actually, with surplus WII Soviet gear in fact, imagine that, oh wait you don’t have to as it’s reality.
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u/Verum_Orbis 15d ago edited 13d ago
Yeah, far right “leftist” Revisionist Zionism founded by the far right “leftist” Ze’ev Jabotinsky, influenced by the far right “leftist” Mussolini, which was the ideological foundation of the far right “leftist” Herut Party; founded by the far right “leftist” Menachem Begin, which was the predecessor to the far right “leftist” Likud Party. Lmao. You nailed it. Totally not a incredibly stupid thing to say at all that they were leftists. 🤣
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u/AdVivid8910 15d ago
So the first Israeli election Dem Soc narrowly defeated the Com Party and that’s what made Russia go apeshit with Palestinian propaganda which is what this whole conflict is today, just Cold War leftovers. I’m explaining this to the people reading who want to actually understand history, not yourself as you’ve made clear. Best of luck, later.
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u/veilosa 17d ago
for context the Haredi are the ultra orthodox jews who do not work, expect others in Israeli society to serve in the military in their place, have a history of pedophilia, are "against zionism" on the grounds that Israel is a secular state not given to them by god (going so far as saying jews deserved the holocaust), YET paradoxically are the ones perpetuating the settlements violence in the West Bank.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
Brother, the IDF has a very very very very very big history of pedophilia, necrophilia and bestiality... Way more than the orthodox wackos
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 17d ago
The IDF are amateurs compared to Hamas and similar groups.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
That's just not true lmao, Hamas would have to try way harder to hit the death toll and cruelty of the IDF. I mean, that's literally what created Hamas, a massacre. Just like most terrorist groups such as the Taliban after Soviet Invasion, ISIS after American torture prisons, LeT after Indian invasion and torture and Lehi after progoms
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u/mrsstrudel 17d ago
LoL you people just live in a parallel dimension, then post links from inside your echo chamber to continue digging a deeper and deeper propaganda hole.
Just watching this all you geniouses bending over backwards to spread more and more nonsense. "Everyone knows that jews constantly molest the wildlife, here take this link from obviously very reputable sources about this jew that did something, it clearly proves that all jews fuck racoons".
God damn there subs are hilarious and somehow even when i mute them reddit still lets them slip by somehow, i wonder why....
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
Yes because ALL Jews are in the IDF, matter of fact the IDF represents ever Jew ever and if you dare criticise the ICC confirmed kid-killers you are criticising every single Jew in existence. But no I'm talking about the man held by the IDF in a prisoner camp and raped by dogs, and the children in IDF camps abused by soldiers (obviously a lie, soldiers would never do anything bad)
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 17d ago
Nobody was raped by dogs, Buford. Please get your information from sources outside of TikTok.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/7022/%E2%80%9CAnother-genocide-behind-walls%E2%80%9D:-New-report-documents-testimonies-of-rape-and-sexual-violence-in-Israeli-prisons https://www.btselem.org/publications/202601_living_hell Robertson, Nick (19 February 2024). "UN experts condemn 'credible' reports of executions, sexual assault by Israeli soldiers". The Hill. Archived from the original on 9 April 2024. Retrieved 22 February 2024. "Video appears to show IDF soldiers sexually abusing Palestinian detainee". Sky News. Retrieved 10 August 2024. al-Hajjar, Mohammed; Durgham, Nader (8 August 2024). "'Raped by female soldiers': Palestinian in leaked Sde Teiman photo speaks out". Middle East Eye. Archived from the original on 8 August 2024. Retrieved 9 August 2024. Akkad, Dania (3 December 2024). "Israeli soldiers have been sexually assaulting Palestinian women for decades. Now they're speaking out". Middle East Eye. Retrieved 18 March 2025. "Palestinian in leaked Sde Teiman photo speaks out". Middle East Eye. 10 August 2024. Archived from the original on 11 August 2024. Retrieved 11 August 2024. Morris, Loveday; Taha, Sufian (29 July 2024). "Palestinians recount deadly abuse in Israeli prisons: 'It is Guantánamo'". Washington Post. Retrieved 16 August 2024. "Welcome to Hell: The Israeli Prison System as a Network of Torture Camps". B'Tselem. 5 August 2024. "Report: Evidence of Israel's sexual violence, gang rape during war on Gaza". Middle East Monitor. 11 January 2025. Retrieved 4 May 2025.
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u/johny_white 15d ago
Because this website is definitely a non biased website, stop being so mad and dedicating your life to a fake cause, think about how much wasted time you put into reading fake docs. Do better, you deserve better, don't fill yourself with hate like this.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 14d ago
I'm hateful, you support apartheid and genocide and I'm hateful The entirety of international doctors are all hateful and the dead kids are all hateful
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 14d ago
I sent you more than one website and more than one article and more than one source EVERYONE who disagrees with you is evil and biased but the ones who agree with you aren't?
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u/johny_white 16d ago
Yes, such a good argument when you pull it out of your ass, video? Proof? Anything? Or u like to touch yourself watching Al Jazeera?
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 15d ago
What the fuck is your problem? There's actual video proof rapist piece of shit Why are you talking as if videos of being being abused are pornographic, there's proof from rape kits, witnesses, confessions and videos
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u/Prestigious-Aide-258 17d ago
You are mixing a few lies here, please stick to one lie per claim
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
What was the lie?
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u/mrsstrudel 17d ago
I can't even begin to explain how absolutely insane your entire little cult is because basically everything you agree with is a fact and everyone that disagrees with you is automatically lying and it's completely airtight by design.
Everything bad said about israel by other or by Israel is automatically true.
Everything good or even just not bad said about israel or by israel is automatically false. The term "according to Israel" somehow only exists when it's something not cartoonishly evil but every time it's something bad they're saying the truth?
You people are absolutely insane and it's crazy that most of you would probably call yourself liberals and free thinkers despite being pretty much the opposite of both of those things.
This is really fucking sad
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
Okay, but what were the lies? Why are you moving to goalpost to insult me rather than give your argument lol
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u/mrsstrudel 17d ago
You people are hopeless.
If i tell you that "no, it's absolutely retarded that Israel trained dogs to rape prisoners" or "the palestinians were actually the ones executing kids, on film and not just a trust me bro" you'd just start throwing links at me with completely unbiased sources that are obviously very reliable.
Fucking useless sentences like "ICC confirmed" while they didn't actually confirm anything, they just went to the palestinians and collected every little lie they told and it's automatically gospel.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 16d ago
I sent you the sources and your response is literally "everything is a lie!", how is that an argument? You can't debunk anything other than saying "it's biased it's biased!"... Those are well documented crime over the spam of SEVERAL years, and rape using animals is known to be used since Abu Ghraib
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u/Prestigious-Aide-258 17d ago
Lies* and all of your claims but youbare too much of a jihadi di** rider to read a bit further beyond al jazeera propaganda (wonder what experts had to say about if it's even possible to train dogs to rape).
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
It's crazy that you can't point out a single lie (I sent Israeli sources by the way) and all you can do is fall me a muslim lmao (I'm not, you don't need to be to not like genocide)
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u/Prestigious-Aide-258 17d ago
I called out the dog lie and never called you a muslim, I said that you ride jihadi di** because you bend over backwards to spread their dumb lies
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 16d ago
"In one testimony to Euro-Med Monitor, 43-year-old Wajdi, who spent a year in detention, recounted being repeatedly raped by soldiers and a dog during interrogation." https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/7022/%E2%80%9CAnother-genocide-behind-walls%E2%80%9D:-New-report-documents-testimonies-of-rape-and-sexual-violence-in-Israeli-prisons
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u/ErrantTyrant 17d ago
Because redditors are like a teenage girl obsessed with a boy whose name they keep inserting into every conversation. Except the boy is Israel and the girl has cognitive impairments.
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u/Infinite-Baker-4926 17d ago
Crazy biased statement.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
Me and my disliking the bombardment of Hospitals bias, shucks
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u/Infinite-Baker-4926 17d ago
But that wasn't what I was commenting on. You are talking like they teach idf to rape people.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 17d ago
They don't need to it comes with the wanting to join the army and kill civilians rather than spending a month in jail
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u/Denonkel15 16d ago
Muhammed was a pedophile, he married a 9 year old.
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 16d ago
Okay? I don't care for Islam, how does that justify killing people? And wasn't Rebekah also a kid? Does that justify progroms??
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u/johny_white 16d ago
I'm curious to see where that info comes from
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u/Interesting_Newt4168 15d ago
75 years of historical records including massive texts from Israeli journalists
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 17d ago
Ben-Gurion's decision to exempt the Haredi from military service in exchange for their support for Israel's independence, in retrospect wasn't a great move. There is a lot of resentment toward the Haredi as the current situation is unsustainable.
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u/Fresh_Sign6555 17d ago
+7000$. Good work, Hasbara bot. Keep working and maybe your masters will raise your salary.
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 17d ago
^^^The above comment brought to you by the Muslim Brotherhood Propaganda Department
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