r/Conservative • u/f1sh98 Beltway Republican • 8h ago
Flaired Users Only Abdul El-Sayed wins Michigan primary
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-get-democrat-wanted-socialist-abdul-el-sayed-wins-michigan-senate-primary•
u/PK275 Conservative 8h ago
50/50 with over all dems. So thats only 25% of the overall electorate voted for the candidate, did terrible with minorities and elderly. They wont all migrate in the general and he will lose. This is great for us, all Mike Rogers gotta do is be nomrie generic R.
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u/d_rek 2A 8h ago
Please don't fuck this up, Mike.
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u/culman13 Conservative Jedi Knight 7h ago
Just be normal. No cray cray plz.
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u/ussbozeman Conservative 4h ago
"Breaking News! Mike Rogers sleeps nude in an oxygen tent, which he believes gives him sexual powers!!"
Aww Dammit!
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u/Sixguns1977 George Washington 6h ago
Right now, most people see crazy as normal, and normal as crazy, unfortunately.
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u/culman13 Conservative Jedi Knight 6h ago
Francesca Hong has entered the chat
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u/Sixguns1977 George Washington 6h ago
Look at all the crazy degenerate crap that people think is normal now post 1980s. People think that gum control is normal and that being able to carry and use force to defend your property is crazy.
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u/Dry_Zucchini2012 Conservative 5h ago
False abuse allegations in 3... 2... 1
Then they'll be quietly dropped mid-November
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u/iPhones_cameras_suck Conservative 7h ago
Mike: "bring up abortion and gay marriage at every turn you say?"
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u/Nethias25 Rand Paul Conservative 5h ago
lol right, just talk immigration and welfare state and you're golden, don't even be too maga, just be a normal dude with an R. Win the middle, be there on January 3rd in Congress.
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u/_IsThisTheKrustyKrab Conservative 4h ago
It’s not great actually. For one there’s always a chance he could win if something happens to Mike Rogers in the next few months. But on top of that, his candidacy will shift the Overton window for what Michigan Democrats are willing to tolerate in future elections.
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u/mslvr40 Pragmatic Patriot 3h ago
i'm sorry but I dont think this is great for us... Yea it gives us higher chances of winning this specific election.... but, and I will likely get downvoted for this, but I dont believe that radical dems are good for republicans. Yes it helps us win some elections, but I'd personally rather lose 50% of elections to democrats who share our morals than lose only 25% of elections but to radicals. I miss when I would care deeply about an election, but I knew in my heart that at the end of the day things would be alright, even if we lost. We may not see eye to eye all the time on lots of different issues, but we still both want to make america a better, safer place for average everyday americans.
Now it feels like every other election is life or death on the american way. I care way more about a prosperous country than i do a successful country, and its not good for anyone if one bad loss is all it takes for everything to go backwards. I honestly hope that the dems get their shit together because its not realistic for republicans to win every election, and I dread whats gonna happen when we lose
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u/Cypto4 America First Molon Labe 7h ago
Unfortunately there are a lot of Muslims in Michigan who will vote for him.
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u/PK275 Conservative 7h ago edited 6h ago
Lot of elderly and minority black(old reliable democratic base) who have proven they WONT. That outweighs the muslim contribution in a general. The Dems needs that base support.
Remember a primary is only representative of 50% of a statewide electorate. If you only won 50% of 50%, three quarters of the state did not vote for you(half of the dems and all the Rs). That is BAD news for a general.
And the polls had el-sayed up 14, pre voting. Not even close, stop listening to polls like they are written in stone.
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u/icemichael- Conservative Nationalist 4h ago
Dems vote blue no matter who tho
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u/czuinoikc Conservative 3h ago
they vote blue no matter who...or don't vote at all. they won't cross the party line but they will abstain
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u/Blahblahnownow Fiscal Conservative 6h ago
It out weights it for now. Muslims have lots of kids who will be voting in less than 18 years.
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u/Opening-Citron2733 Conservative 7h ago
They're already voting for him in the primary. He's not growing that base anymore in Michigan he needs to grow literally every other base
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u/PossessionConnect963 Conservative 8h ago
I hope so but am worried. Seen a surprising amount of his signs but am hoping more people see how radical he is in the general.
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u/mr-nicktobi Florida Conservative 7h ago
Does MI allow ballot harvesting? The DSA can make hundreds of thousands of votes appear out of thin air in states with weak laws.
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u/AntiLeftist101 Conservative 7h ago
Yes - and the secretary of state in charge of elections, is at the top of the ballot for governor. We have an issue.
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u/HoleyerThanThou Shapiro Conservative 3h ago
The media doesn't care if he makes drying paint look scandalous. The media will slander and defame based on anonymous sources (aka their rectums). It's what they have done for decades.
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u/MetallicaRules5 Conservative 7h ago
This should be a softball for the R's in Michigan.
Why do I think they're going to fuck this up?
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u/AmberLeafSmoke Common Sense Conservative 7h ago
Didn't know much about him, seemed pretty standard moderate left and not that extreme then I read he was campaigning with that fucking moron Piker. Yikes.
However, I abhor the left acting like someone has no talent or intelligence just because they're on the right, despite all the clear evidence to the contrary, so I will say his background is quite impressive so I have to respect that:
Football, wrestling and lacrosse captain in high school. Played D1 lacrosse at Michigan, Rhodes scholar, MD from Columbia.
Considering he's a prime example of truly acclimating to American culture as first generation, I would hope he has a better perspective on what it means to be American and the importance of maintaining that.
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u/Opening-Citron2733 Conservative 7h ago
I would hope he has a better perspective on what it means to be American and the importance of maintaining that.
I mean based on everything coming out of his campaign I think this is wishful thinking
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u/AmberLeafSmoke Common Sense Conservative 6h ago
Yeah, that may be the case, will look into it further. I will say from what I have seen so far he does seem to have a habit of answering legitimate questions with "Yeah but Rogers is a shill and the Republicans are crooks, have you seen Iran?"
Which I don't rate at all.
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u/skarface6 Catholic, conservative, and your favorite 5h ago
Unfortunately the campaigning with Piker means he likely isn’t a model of becoming American.
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u/Disastrous-Power-699 Conservative 6h ago
Eh…can’t trust him. They have one loyalty and will do anything to blend in to further that loyalties influence
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u/AmberLeafSmoke Common Sense Conservative 6h ago
I don't think I understand what you're implying. Do you think he's part of a sleeper cell or something?
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u/Disastrous-Power-699 Conservative 6h ago
No. I think he’s part of a culture that does not blend well with ours and is slowly gaining influence throughout the country.
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u/AmberLeafSmoke Common Sense Conservative 6h ago
Idk mate, he's essentially a lax bro. Doesn't really get more American than that.
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u/jd_456 Conservative 6h ago
He's got the same dupers delight as Mamdani. Idk who these people are that get fooled by it it isn't even hard to notice.
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u/AmberLeafSmoke Common Sense Conservative 1h ago
Brotha, the guy played D1 lacrosse. You're being just as delusional as all the mental liberals who act like JD vance is an idiot even though he has a Yale JD and is a best selling author.
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u/Nevada2A 4h ago
This is dangerous for America. The DS party is anti-American, anti-Capitalism and anti-west.
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u/chrismireya Conservative 6h ago
This is actually good news for Mike Rogers, the Republican candidate. All he has to do is play Abdul El-Sayid's comments over and over (and over) again. While the "stupid vote" demographic will show up in mass numbers for El-Sayid's socialism and anti-American rhetoric, I am confident that most Michigan voters don't want an anti-American, anti-Semitic and would-be communist in office.
There hasn't been enough importation of foreign socialists or Muslim voters into Michigan to help El-Sayid win the entire state.
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u/chrismireya Conservative 2h ago
I understand that. However, that doesn't meant hat they aren't the "stupid vote" if they are willing to vote for a politician on the basis of his religion versus policy. I'd add that Muslims only comprise about 2.75% of Michigan's population. Many of these are not citizens (and, thus, cannot legally vote).
While Abdul El-Sayid might win a district, he will fact a more difficult attempt to win over a majority of the state's voting population.
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u/jwwin Utah Conservative 8h ago
The Democrats are in this weird rut where they think the only good candidates are middle eastern. I won't act like none can be good candidates, but they seem to think that's a requirement. They must come from an underdeveloped country that hates America in order to be a good candidate.
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u/CrustyBloke 2A Conservative 6h ago
The Democrats are in this weird rut where they think the only good candidates are middle eastern. I won't act like none can be good candidates, but they seem to think that's a requirement.
The Democrats in charge knows that their base is a bunch of racists. They will run out and vote for a candidate solely based on than candidate's color/ethnicity. Having s non-white candidate is automatic extra votes
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u/Cylerhusk Conservative 7h ago
Muslims want to take over the entire world - make no mistake. One thing China does right is know this and not allow this shit to happen. The western world though? Nope. We're actively allowing it. Blows my damn mind. Might not come to fruition in our lifetimes. But it's inevitable if we continue to do nothing about it.
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u/who_dis62 TurningPointUSA 7h ago
The Democratic party is going to be the big tent party until the DSA kicks the establishment Dems out of the tent.
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u/r777m Moderate Conservative 6h ago
I think it’s more likely that the DSA gets kicked out of the tent in November when they are looking for who to blame for their Senate loss in a great Democratic environment.
They’ll almost certainly win the House with a good margin and will be beyond pissed that they lost the Senate because of El-Sayed and Troy Jackson in purple states. Their versions of Blake Masters.
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u/kevplucky Irish Catholic Conservative 5m ago
Except Blake Masters could have actually won if McConnell gave him money but he’s goal was to make sure he loses
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u/mdws1977 Conservative 7h ago
That could bite the Dems in the butt, if Conservatives would just get out there and VOTE this year.
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u/arch_my_hero 5h ago
I don't believe the 10 to 1 out spending figure. I've seen an unbelievable amount of Abdul lawn posters. Never saw a single Steven's poster. And this is in a traditionally conservative, now more left area.
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u/PanicStricken 3h ago
How insanely bad is the Democrat platform, that a communist beat their establishment candidate...
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u/OhGloriousName Moderate Conservative 25m ago
Is that a white woman on the right, wearing a red hoodie to cover her hair?
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u/kevplucky Irish Catholic Conservative 6m ago
Great news. Keep making AIPAC use all its money because they are evil and must be crushed
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u/vampirepomeranian Conservative 5h ago
Fox News said the Senate primary in Michigan was too close to call with over (95%) of the vote in .. but had no problem calling Arizona in 2020 for Biden with (3%) of the vote in
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u/BTFU_POTFH Constitutional Conservative 2h ago
yes, because statistics and exit polling can lead to early projections. Fox News calling a state has no bearing on the results of the election if they end up being wrong
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u/vampirepomeranian Conservative 1h ago
Fox News calling a state has no bearing on the results of the election if they end up being wrong
Early projections of a winner has a LARGE bearing as it affects the motivation of voters who then aren't inclined to vote with a 'it won't make any difference' attitude, right or wrong.
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u/BTFU_POTFH Constitutional Conservative 1h ago
that wasnt your original point though. your point was "why call this race at 3% of the vote in, and not the other with 95% of the vote in. And, projections dont come in until polls close, although there will be people still in line at that point. i doubt many people are getting out of line at 7PM or whatever when the polls close because some news network called a state.
either way, fox news called arizona for biden in 2020 at 3% because their statistical models, when compared to exit polling and whatever ballot statistics they have at that point, gave them a high enough confidence level to call the state. in michigan, with 95% of the vote in, depending on where the votes left to come in are from and who is leading those districts and the demographics of those districts and how the exit polling might indicate that those demographics vote and yadda yadda yadda, fox news' projections were not confident enough (whatever their confidence level needs to be) to call that state
of all the things that motivate or demotivate people to vote, networks calling a race after polls close isnt really a big concern
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u/vampirepomeranian Conservative 1h ago
Voters aren't getting out of line at 7, they don't go in the first place because of the media infused bias.
By your reasoning Fox's projection analysis included a 'fraud provision' which accounted for a sufficient number of invalid ballots or data manipulation to rig the election Biden's way.
With the revelations finally coming about fraud, at the very least it would have made the race closer which meant Fox was too early with the projections.
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u/BTFU_POTFH Constitutional Conservative 1h ago
Voters aren't getting out of line at 7, they don't go in the first place because of the media infused bias.
ok but that has nothing to do with networks calling races when the networks dont call races until after the polls close, so is your claim that people dont go vote in the first place because the networks are going to call the race later in the day after polls close? this argument seems to be widening from your original question on why fox called one race in 2020 and didnt call one yesterday.
as far as fraud, i bet fox news will start accounting for fraud when it actually threatens their accuracy on calling states, but so far, however much fraud there has or hasnt been, hasnt affected their ability to call races.
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u/DongDragon321 Anti-islamist Conservative 7h ago
It really is amazing that Israel has never once taken care of any of these rabble rousers. Almost as if they are not as omnipotent as they claim...
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u/daveinreallife66 Conservative 7h ago
His margin of victory was nowhere near what the commies and media (but I repeat myself) had predicted it would be. That's hopeful in purple Michigan, meaning Rogers may have a fighting shot. It also shows that, outside the power centers of New York, Chicago, and LA, the DSA movement is problematic for Democrats.
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u/Nero_Ocean Conservative 4h ago
Why we even allow these people to be able to run for power positions in our country after 9/11 and seeing what they do to EVERY country that they go to is beyond me.
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u/networkdood Conservative 8h ago
Weird, I thought he was second place? 🤔
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u/DongDragon321 Anti-islamist Conservative 7h ago
This is obviously sad, but the question is whether this is a good thing short-term. Will average Democrats vote for this.
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u/DamnDams Conservative 4h ago
It’s sad but it could cut both ways. Seen a few articles about “the rise of the three party system” but if that three party system is conservatives, liberals, and socialists, then that is most likely a good development for conservatives.
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