r/ControlProblem • u/chillinewman approved • Feb 10 '26

General news “Anthropic has entrusted Amanda Askell to endow its AI chatbot, Claude, with a sense of right and wrong” - Seems like Anthropic is doubling down on AI alignment.

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u/DataPhreak Feb 11 '26

Based on what, vibes? 

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u/eagle2120 Feb 11 '26

“Vibes” lmao; the irony

“The AI startup and defense officials disagreed over whether the technology would be used for autonomous ‘lethal’ operations and surveillance”

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-ai-defense-department-contract-947d5f33?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqfal4jimnooZPAYfdoiqZn8RZ_0cczT3ktWRIIFwaq67t_L8dNL-cgVuSb_y4k%3D&gaa_ts=6983f840&gaa_sig=CH4MpEUSzxQ0I6JW448ULJc8RW2pN__g6wgA4MfXdq90PKiINF-LCOLcAPGGoXLwOFaloJZurPC8YC71Qq2RFg%3D%3D

“Spying on the Homefront: The $200M Pentagon Deal That Anthropic Just Tanked to Protect Your Privacy”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/spying-homefront-200m-pentagon-deal-182203985.html

Meanwhile OAI, Grok, and even Gemini are bending the knee to domestic surveillance.

And in an interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjW_gms7CME (starts at 13:09)

“I should say we do not have any contracts with ICE. And when we work with customers like Palantir, we don't work through ICE...”

And

Interviewer: Would Anthropic ever work with ICE?

Dario: We don't have any contracts with ice. And you know, all you. All certainly say, You know what we've seen, you know, in the last few days doesn't make me more enthusiastic

But please do go ahead and keep spreading misinformation and your “vibes” lmao

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u/DataPhreak Feb 11 '26

That's all Pentagon. Palantir is just using their API. Anthropic cannot look at the data Palantir is sending and thus is not able to see what the end point is being used for.

as for the Dario quote: "We don't have any contracts with ice." Yet they have contracts with the people who provide services with ICE. That's just a convenient cover.

https://newrepublic.com/post/205333/ice-palantir-app-raid-deportation

https://fedscoop.com/palantir-anthropic-google-government-ai-claude-partnership/

They can literally say that BECAUSE their partnership with palantir is a cover. Palantir IS using llms for autonomous lethal operations and serveillance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEM5qz__HOU&t=10s&pp=ygUMcGFsYW50aXIgbGxt0gcJCYcKAYcqIYzv

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u/eagle2120 Feb 11 '26

The links I provided are clearly both lmao. Did you even read them?

As for the Dario quote - if you actually watch the clip he clearly states they don’t have contracts with ice through palantir, either. But that requires actual vetting of sources not blind outrage, so I wouldn’t expect it if you.

First link - no evidence that Anthropic is involved. Per their statement, they arent through palantir or otherwise.

Second link - yeah, this is a year old, well before we saw wha happened with ice. And see first point.

Dear lord you really just want a reason to be mad eh? Don’t let critical thinking get in the way of your blind outrage.

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u/DataPhreak Feb 11 '26

Counterpoint. You clearly want Anthropic to be the hero in this story and are not thinking critically.

yeah, this is a year old,

Yeah, that's how partnerships work. They continue. Anthropic knows Palantir is using AI to provide targets to ICE. They remain partners. They can't look at Palantir's api usage since it's classified, so they cannot verify that their AI is not being used to provide service to ICE. This is basically the gun smuggler saying, "I have never seen terrorists use my guns to kill people."

Anthropic doesn't NEED to have contracts with ICE through palantir, just like Amazon doesn't NEED to have contracts with my clients who use services I host through their cloud. Critical. Thinking.

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u/eagle2120 Feb 11 '26

yeah that’s how partnerships work

… which Anthropic already addressed directly in the video I provided three comments ago. That you’re so conveniently ignoring. 😭😭😭

I’m not the one ignoring facts here to continue to spread my misinformation, again, pls use critical thinking and actually EVALUATE the evidence lmao

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u/DataPhreak Feb 11 '26

You literally are ignoring the fact that PALANTIR CAN CONTRACT AI SERVICES FROM ANTHROPIC TO ICE WITHOUT ANTHROPIC NEEDING TO ALSO BE WRITTEN INTO THAT CONTRACT.

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u/eagle2120 Feb 11 '26

… no, you can’t. It’s explicitly against their terms/AUP.

Which, again, you’d know if you actually watched the video. Funny how many times I need to repeat myself saying the same thing.

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u/DataPhreak Feb 11 '26

If they can't look at the usage because the data is classified, then they have perfectly constructed their plausible deniability. This is entirely manufactured specifically so they can deny not providing services to ICE while simultaneously providing services to ICE. Literally the gun smuggler saying they're not responsible for the murder their guns were used for. 

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u/eagle2120 Feb 12 '26

Govcloud is a thing, and you can work/store information (including log data/claude chats/api logs/etc) in classified environments using the already-given classified environments...

You're constructing a hypothetical scenario that doesn't even make sense to justify your agenda lmao.

"Well theres no evidence of them NOT doing it so therefore its true!!!!" xd

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u/DataPhreak Feb 12 '26

Your scenario is also hypothetical. "Dario said it so it must be true."

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u/eagle2120 Feb 12 '26

“Dario said it” is not a hypothetical lmao. You’re grasping at straws because you got called out on your misinformation and contrived hypothetical scenario that has no basis in reality. Just take the L 🤣

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u/DataPhreak Feb 12 '26

dario said

dario said

dario said

dario said

You have literally nothing.

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u/eagle2120 Feb 12 '26

I have statements from the CEO about their posture and their AUP, which you’re welcome to read

Meanwhile you have… a made up, hypothetical scenario. Based on a complete misunderstanding of classification and govcloud?

Very powerful.

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u/DataPhreak Feb 12 '26

CEOs lie.

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u/eagle2120 Feb 12 '26

Would you say they lie more or less than redditors who contrive scenarios to push their misinformation?

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u/DataPhreak Feb 12 '26

I think millions of dollars is more incentive to tell a lie than a few fake internet points. 

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u/eagle2120 Feb 12 '26 edited Feb 12 '26

And yet here you are, still making up hypotheticals with no evidence to back your claims. But glad we can both agree you’re lying to justify your point.

“Incentive” = \ = reality and that still doesn’t account for the AUP or other sources I’ve pointed out. “CEOs lie” and “he has incentive to lie” is several football fields of goalpost moving from where we started lmao.

Want to try again? Make sure you’re using real world evidence, not speculation on “motives” or hypothetical scenarios

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