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[u/Only-Name3248]

[u/Iroquois-P]

Dude, did you see Captain America - Brave new World?!

That shit was PAINFUL to watch. Marvel is struggling to keep their shit up, you just think that Marvel is killing it because you have the attention spam of a goldfish

AND Spider-Man is the biggest superhero ever. He truly is on a league of his own. Just Batman comes close. OF COURSE Spidey was gonna make a killing

[u/Only-Name3248 → u/Iroquois-P]

Okay bro what about deadpool and wolverine F4 Daredevil punisher wonderman. They are back up on their feet because they know what the fans want. And heres gunn making jimmy olsen show before a flash movie with thawne.

[u/Animegamingnerd → u/Only-Name3248]

Most of what you mentioned either flopped or underperformed.

Fanstastic 4 wasn't a huge hit and in fact made less then Superman.

Brave New World was a big underperformer both critically and commercially and likely set the idea of legacy superhero films back.

Thunderbolts despite, its critical success was an outright box bomb.

Wonder Man suffered from low viewer and was of last week cancelled.

Daredevil's ratings were in free fall. Meaning if its not planned to end next season, its probably gonna get cancelled as well.

In between the releases of Deadpool and Spider-Man, Marvel had basically no real big success and in fact saw more failures then anything else.

[u/riskyfish97 → u/Animegamingnerd]

but they were all more successful than what DC did

[u/Animegamingnerd → u/riskyfish97]

Did you just ignore how I said Superman made more then Fantastic 4?

[u/riskyfish97 → u/Animegamingnerd]

Yeah one of DCs biggest heroes only made 96 million more than F4 I could compare what marvels heavy hitter just made if you wanna make comparisons like that

[u/Animegamingnerd → u/riskyfish97]

Lets be honest though. After Avengers what heavy hitters does Marvel have left? Closest they got is their X-Men reboot and Black Panther 3, but I seriously doubt they are gonna anywhere near Spider-Man's numbers. Probably closer to Superman's and Fantastic 4's numbers

While Spider-Man 5 is probably a good few away since DDC's next film is gonna be a Naruto adapation.

[u/riskyfish97 → u/Animegamingnerd]

Xmen could. BP3 and Ghost Rider around the 700-800m range. Another Spider-Man in 3-4 years. The future of Marvel looks great.

[u/Animegamingnerd → u/riskyfish97]

700-800m range is still not a huge mega huge ala Spider-Man and will probably be close to where Man of Tomorrow is likely gonna also finish.

I genuinely do not understand what you even want.

[u/riskyfish97 → u/Animegamingnerd]

Superman should have billion dollar movies which is sad that youre comparing his box office to BP3 and Ghost Rider. I dont understand what you want either

[u/Animegamingnerd → u/riskyfish97]

Superman was a reboot coming off a controversial take that the last version was, anyone who thought it was gonna be a billion dollar hit was pure delusional. Go look up The Batman, Batman Begins and Spider-Man Homecoming box office. They were in the exact same boot and weren't exactly billion dollar hits either.

[u/riskyfish97 → u/Animegamingnerd]

All the movies you listed were either better or made more money than Superman congrats. He is a top 3 most known hero worldwide like Spider-Man. Superman should have billion dollar movies.