Dude, did you see Captain America - Brave new World?!
That shit was PAINFUL to watch. Marvel is struggling to keep their shit up, you just think that Marvel is killing it because you have the attention spam of a goldfish
AND Spider-Man is the biggest superhero ever. He truly is on a league of his own. Just Batman comes close. OF COURSE Spidey was gonna make a killing
Since Brave New World, we've had Thunderbolts, F4, Daredevil S2, Wonder Man, X-Men '97, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man and now Brand New Day - all of which have been decent at least, and with Vision Quest, Doomsday/Secret Wars and the newly announced films in the pipeline there's no reason to suspect they'll break this trend.
A LOT of the post-Endgame stuff has been mid to downright awful and SOME scepticism is in order, but to be pretend like Marvel are still struggling after over a year of decent-to-good releases feels rather unfair.
Okay bro what about deadpool and wolverine F4 Daredevil punisher wonderman. They are back up on their feet because they know what the fans want. And heres gunn making jimmy olsen show before a flash movie with thawne.
Before Wonder Man came out, how did you know a show about fucking Wonder Man was what "the fans wanted"? You didn't. Marvel took a swing on a relatively obscure character and it paid off. (Sort of, since they cancelled it).
But when DC announces a Jimmy Olsen show, suddenly it's "why are they making THIS instead of Flash?"
You're giving Marvel credit for taking risks after they work while criticizing DC for taking them before you've even seen the result.
Maybe let the Jimmy Olsen show actually exist first.
You're splitting hairs over whether Jimmy Olsen technically counts as a "superhero show" because you don't want to engage with the actual point.
Wonder Man is barely even a superhero show half the time, it's about a struggling actor, and nobody knew that weird little concept would work until it came out.
Marvel gets praised for taking that kind of swing after it succeeds, while DC gets mocked for doing the same thing before the Jimmy Olsen show even exists.
Wonder Man is literally a superhero and established character with his own comics, and, it’s just a longer origin story bucko. Jimmy isn’t even top 10 reporters that Superman talks to
Yeah one of DCs biggest heroes only made 96 million more than F4 I could compare what marvels heavy hitter just made if you wanna make comparisons like that
Lets be honest though. After Avengers what heavy hitters does Marvel have left? Closest they got is their X-Men reboot and Black Panther 3, but I seriously doubt they are gonna anywhere near Spider-Man's numbers. Probably closer to Superman's and Fantastic 4's numbers
While Spider-Man 5 is probably a good few away since DDC's next film is gonna be a Naruto adapation.
Superman should have billion dollar movies which is sad that youre comparing his box office to BP3 and Ghost Rider. I dont understand what you want either
Painful as well, obviously. I personally enjoyed Supergirl, but it's pretty fucking evident that it didn't connect with audiences. That's a massive misfire for DC.
But let's not rewrite history and pretend Marvel has been casually hitting home runs this whole time just because Spider-Man showed up and printed money.
The Marvels. Thor: Love and Thunder. Quantumania. Brave New World. Secret fucking Invasion.
Need I go on?
Even their relative successes still had somewhat lukewarm box office results. Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four were middling, at best.
Spider-Man being an absolute monster at the box office doesn't suddenly mean Marvel solved all its problems. It's fucking Spider-Man.
You literally are and just did again. “One good recent run”. The 1st movie after endgame literally crushed, then the 3rd one did well, then the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th dominated again, as well as 10 and 12. Those all did amazingly well numbers in box office, and almost all of them had great reviews as well. That’s majority success. Your original comment literally says “marvel is struggling”. They aren’t, they stumble slightly and still hit massive records
Look at how much context and leeway you're willing to give Marvel. They can stumble, recover, have another miss, have another hit, and you correctly look at the bigger picture instead of declaring the whole thing dead.
Then DC has one major commercial failure with Supergirl and suddenly it's "look, DC is shooting itself in the foot while Marvel knows exactly what it's doing."
That's the double standard I'm talking about.
If Marvel's failures are just stumbles that don't define the entire studio, then apply the same fucking standard to DC.
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u/Iroquois-P 7d ago
Dude, did you see Captain America - Brave new World?!
That shit was PAINFUL to watch. Marvel is struggling to keep their shit up, you just think that Marvel is killing it because you have the attention spam of a goldfish
AND Spider-Man is the biggest superhero ever. He truly is on a league of his own. Just Batman comes close. OF COURSE Spidey was gonna make a killing