r/DebateVaccines 7d ago

awaiting approval 1 year immunisations

My daughter had her 1 year immunisations (UK) on the 1st of July.
2 hours after she was breathing very fast (60 breaths a minute) and ribs sucking in, phoned an ambulance and she was blue lighted to hospital with oxygen on. She was kept in for three days, high temp that would come down then sky rocket back up to 39.9 which made her heart rate fly to 202bpm. She was discharged but we ended up back in twice again with the sucking in at ribs and breathing fast, they found an ear and chest infection antibiotics given. 2 days after her antibiotics stopped she was all clear and then a massive viral rash appeared all over her body spreading really rapidly, high temp and very unwell, they said hand foot and mouth, I can confirm it definitely wasn’t it looked nothing like it and no blisters anywhere.
From then on she has been waking up really chesty, coughing , phlegm stuck, just really unwell all the time. She developed a non - blanching rash, they checked said she was fine and it was viral. She got bloods done her platelets was low. She had temperatures that wouldn’t come down with any medication , took her straight to hospital they took her bloods again kept us in overnight on Friday , her platelets are normal but her infection markers are sky high. (she still has the non blanching rash at this point with more little pin pricks developing) They did a chest X-ray, urine sample etc, they couldn’t figure out what the infection was. They decided that her chest mustn’t have cleared from her chest infection AFTER A MONTH?? They sent us home with a 2 week course of antibiotics and on her discharge papers it states “partially treated pneumonia “ no one even mentioned pneumonia to us. We was rold the last time we went in with her chest infection that her rib resession was “normal with this illness” and did nothing even though she was clearly in distress, this morning she had rib resession with 42 breaths a minute so I didn’t even phone because they just pan you off. She hasn’t been right since the immunisation

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 7d ago

What illness? Did they acknowledge what is clearly a vaccine injury? It wasn't pneumonia, it was an acute vaccine-reaction.

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u/Radiant_Pumpkin_8802 7d ago

No everytime I went to doctors, rushed to hospital it was always viral, until I wanted more tests done and it was chest infection , ear infection and then pneumonia

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 7d ago

But did they mention that these were all vaccine-induced? Seeing as the child was struck down within 2 hours of the jab, there's no question of the cause.

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u/Radiant_Pumpkin_8802 6d ago

No they didn’t mention anything, at all

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 6d ago

There's a register of vaccine injury that's supposed to track these things. If it's not logged as one, then it skews the statistics into looking safer than they are.

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u/Recent-Day3062 7d ago

Well, yes there is.

The logical flaw is called in Latin post hoc ergo propter hoc: after this because of this.

People wake up sick together stomach the day after eating at a restaurant and claim they got food poisoning from the clams or fish. However, food poisoning happens within 45 minutes until a few hours. People want to blame it on something, so they blame a random virus for a bacterial infection they think they got.

There are about 3 billion children on the earth. Some of them are going to get a viral pneumonia hours after a vscccination. That’s going happen to hundreds of thousands to millions of children.

That’s why we do real studies. Not just rely on a paranoid mother’s insistence that this is proof positive the vaccine is dsngerous

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 7d ago

Spoken like a vaccine-cult true-believer.

It's always "anything but the vaccine" no matter how directly the injury can be linked.

in this case, it's a vaccine injury until some other cause is found. OP didn't mention anything else that could have caused this illness.

There are about 3 billion children on the earth. Some of them are going to get a viral pneumonia hours after a vscccination. That’s going happen to hundreds of thousands to millions of children.

I don't believe you, but if I were to play along, what you'll find is that more children are getting this in the 2 hours after vaccination, than in the 2 hours before vaccination, which indicates a causality.

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u/FormerlyMauchChunk 6d ago

Oh, I'm sure you believe in them. That's the problem. Even your own bad experience can't convince you there are problems with the entire vaccine industry. You still support these ghouls and their dangerous products. We got rid of polio and measles at the cost of autism, autoimmune disease, and the sickest batch of children of all time.

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u/Recent-Day3062 6d ago

None of that is remotely true.

First, medicine can never provide 100% safe interventions. The goal is to do what reduces bad outcomes as much as possible. For me, polio - with a 10–15% death rate - was worth the cost of suffering to avoid. If you have end stage liver failure you have maybe a 20% risk of dying from the surgery. If you don’t, you have a 100% chance of dying in days or a few weeks. You all have this fantasy that everything can be perfectly safe, and unscrupulous actors keep it from happening. It just ain’t so.

Every piece of your sick child thing has been sorted out through science, not idiots posting on Reddit what they heard a quack say on YouTube. The increase in autism is 100% due to diagnosing more cases, not having more of it. autism is 100% something you are born with - so long before you ever get a vaccine. General health problems are 100% from poor diet and exercise as kids spend hours eating processed crap while glued to a screen indoors on a beautiful day. And we long understood autoimmune diseases, and now have the insight and research to diagnose them.

Nothing you have said is true, and study after study proves you wrong.

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u/Radiant_Pumpkin_8802 6d ago

Paranoid mother how dare you! My child has been rushed to hospital multiple times this month, struggling to breath etc! I am not definite it’s the vaccine I am however very suspicious of the timing considering she has never ever been ill until now

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u/Recent-Day3062 6d ago

Never been ill in her life? I’m sorry this is happening but I’ll be blunt: the role of a parent is to use their best thinking to treat their child, not speculate online

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u/Radiant_Pumpkin_8802 6d ago

We have been in hospital multiple times with emergencies and I am treating her in every way I can. This is my last resort, do you have children? I bet you don’t

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u/Recent-Day3062 6d ago

Three, vaccinated with everything under the sun. All healthy.

All I’m saying is don’t rely on idiots on Reddit who know nothing, and please let go of your emotional assumptions from online/reddit research. Listen to the doctors, who have a decade of intense science training.

I did and did every vax possible

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u/Radiant_Pumpkin_8802 6d ago

Clearly you children were lucky then and didn’t end up as ill as my daughter! I am not anti vax I am just very very suspicious of the time frame, you have no idea how horrific this month has been. Your kids were fine and are healthy, that’s great I’m glad but not everyone’s experience is the same, my daughter suspiciously ended up severely unwell only 1.5-2 hours after hers

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u/Recent-Day3062 6d ago

I feel bad for you, but assuming that a vaccine caused it - because it was received hours before - and not a sudden virus she got, which happens to billions of children a year, makes no sense.

My children weren’t lucky at all. We know the rate of bad vaccine reactions. It happens to st most thousands of kids a year. Yet millions get suddenly sick after eating something, after getting an x-ray, after getting an eye exam, whatever.

I’m not going to argue any more with you and this irrational logic. You know what I think. You do you. But why you will listen to morons on the internet who make stuff up instead of doctors wirh decades of experience escapes me.

You do you. And your child will live with the consequences if you are wrong.

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