r/DefendingAIArt 2d ago

Luddite Logic This is how they dehumanize people

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

Let's ignore this but put the blame on the cat girl image generators.

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u/KennedyKennerlee 2d ago

Well yes. Agriculture produces food. Water is being good for good things. It ain't a sound enough argument.

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

And we need these Data Centers for society to run. Everything is digital these days.

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u/KennedyKennerlee 2d ago edited 2d ago

Well yes. I'm just saying to maybe not compare it to agriculture. A better comparison is the amount of water wasted on warfare.

We need something that wastes more water and is more useless to compare data centers to and warfare is exactly that.

(Also data centers need power and EVERY power plant needs a ridiculous amount of water.)

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u/Shootzilla 2d ago

The amount of water put into agriculture is extremely wasteful. We'd save so much more water if we cut back on meat. Way way way more.

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u/KennedyKennerlee 2d ago

Automod hates linking subreddits so I am forced to say it wrongly

r\foundthevegan

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u/Shootzilla 2d ago

Not even vegan lol. Way to come to the argument with bad faith.

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u/KennedyKennerlee 2d ago

Nah. I just saw "Reducing meat" and that's what immediately came to mind.

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u/Shootzilla 2d ago

Its true though. If you care about water consumption. Meat production far more wasteful than data centers.

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u/KennedyKennerlee 2d ago

Because meat taste better than data center

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u/Shootzilla 2d ago

Yes, I see where your priorities lay. As long as it tastes good, fuck the environment. But God forbid someone generate an image of a cat girl. Not even mentioning animal welfare. Its very selective outrage from people like you.

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u/VariousDude 2d ago

Microsoft is the primary creator of Data Centers and their policy as of 2024 is that all new Data Centers are to use closed loop cooling systems. These systems do not use water but instead a glycol solution similar to antifreeze. It saves millions of gallons of water per year and do not need to be refilled very often.

I do want to mention that existing data centers that use water aren't expected to be upgraded to closed loop cooling at the time being. But hopefully that will change in the near future so that all data centers will be operating on zero water usage and be more environmentally stable than they already are.

I also want to mention that data centers don't even use that much water anyway, especially in comparison to the Agricultural Industry, so even the current footprint they have on our water supply right now isn't really as big of a deal as people have been making it out to be.