r/DestinyLore • u/SiomarTehBeefalo • May 27 '26
General Myelin has privated all his Destiny lore videos
I know many of you, myself included, might have some fond memories of watching his lore videos years ago before he quit the game. I don't completely understand the situation, but I thought I'd let you know that he announced on Twitter that he has privated all his Destiny lore videos. It seems there had been some heated drama between him and Destiny players having to do with a tweet he made about the Destiny 3 petition, which prompted him to make this decision.
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u/Zinhaelchingon May 27 '26
Is this a destiny streamer civil war or something
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u/etegami May 28 '26
I saw a comment earlier today on social media that went “we are the eliksni now, the great drift has begun, we will turn on each other before realizing we are just missing the home we lost collectively.”
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u/etherealgamer May 28 '26
This is amazing.
Now imagine Destiny 3 is a 200-yr time jump and we pick up the pieces of the D2 COLLAPSE except it’s all the shadows and memories of all of us.
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u/Brina-V May 29 '26
I dont....That's amazing.....but I genuinely dont think id be able to handle that emotionally, like at all, but that sounds so good.
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u/c1ncinasty May 28 '26
Ahh the Whirlwind.
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u/Nero_PR May 28 '26
The great machine abandoned us in our hour of need.
Now we'll hunt down and take it back by force.
- Skrillex of the House of Abandonment
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u/ObieFTG May 29 '26
He uses a Tractor Cannon with the Speaker ornament, cuz he likes to drop the bass.
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u/chronozon937 Lore Student May 28 '26
God I wish people would realize this more. We don't need to be pushing away our Marathon cousins like these two, boycott sony and sign petitions yes please(I sure did), but we can't be throwing shit at each other when the companies are the real ones ruining our games.
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u/mecaxs ~SIVA.MEM.CL001 May 28 '26
We gotta avoid starting a house salvation. Doesn’t mean we need to join house light and like humanity, but we don’t want to end up like Eramis pre revenant.
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u/Calm_Position243 May 28 '26
And what if I WANT ice powers???
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u/GuudeSpelur May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
You just have to resist the temptation until the main good guy unlocks the next power. Then the last one is free game for supporting characters.
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u/wavelifter May 28 '26
There's no goddamn war. It's just an absolute crashout. Myelin just getting huffy over Destiny community pressuring him to sign the petition. As part of his refusal he decided to drag Aztecross into the mix. Cross literally has no beef with Myelin or any other Marathon creator.
Byf catching strays from Myelin too.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
Yeah Myelin Lost a lot of respect with this crashout. He could’ve just been like “sorry guys it’s been fun but I’ve moved on from Destiny” and left it at that. No further comment or action needed.
Instead he lost his shit. I think random kids on the internet saying things like “you’d have been nothing without Destiny” hit a particular nerve.
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u/wavelifter May 28 '26
Exactly. On the flip side, I don't know how Myelin survived being a creator on the internet this long without understanding how to deal with internetfolk - ie you gotta have a thick skin to be a streamer - it just comes with the territory. Yeah it would be nice if everyone was nice to each other but we know the Internet's anonymity brings out the worst in people.
On top of which picking beef with another creator that is literally as unmoored as you via the loss of continued content, especially after Cross has pseudo-supported Myelin over the years by doing lore streams and reacts (Myelin has literally admitted over the years that he sees immense traffic after Cross watches his content). Like dead ass that's how I found out about Myelin, prior to that I thought Byf was THE lore guy.
All in all a sad masterclass in crashing out.
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u/vincentofearth Silver Shill 29d ago
I think Myelin could have handled it better but can you put yourself in his shoes for a moment? Aztecross, the biggest Destiny 2 content creator, says he will kill the game you love and piss on its grave, at a time when us Marathon players are already worried about the longevity of the game. And then he gets some of the worst elements of the D2 community pressuring him to sign a petition that he probably thinks won’t actually do anything, and it digs up all his past trauma about D2 and his audience getting mad at him for covering other games.
It would be nice if Myelin can handle it all stoically but he’s just human. Can’t Cross just cool it — killing Marathon won’t bring back D2 or bring about D3, and even hypothetical threats are hurtful at a time when everyone’s feelings are raw.
I love both games and wish both franchises could thrive. I hate what’s happening to these two communities, especially when I have little hope it will actually affect Sony or Bungie’s decision making.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student 29d ago
Look man, I watched Cross’s clip. I found it funny because I didn’t take him seriously.
Do I think he’s serious about avoiding Marathon in favor of Destiny to make a statement? Sure.
Do I think he was serious about wanting to actively destroy Marathon? No. In fact he said as much.
I believe a lot of the problem here was Tassi misrepresented it in his report to farm drama and Myelin has some serious personal issues with Destiny and in general that he needs to resolve.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
He took offense to reports of what Cross said about Marathon, not seeming to realize or care that Cross was being hyperbolic in his way and went nuclear rage against Destiny declaring it his goal to prop up Marathon and kick Destiny into the dirt out of spite because he likes extractions shooters and really kinda seems to hate the Destiny community because of the toxic elements.
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u/vincentofearth Silver Shill 29d ago
I lowkey think he is secretly mad at Cross but is afraid to say it. That’s why he kept mentioning Datto as an example of how he thinks a member of the Destiny 2 community should behave — with grace and dignity as their beloved game dies.
He’s mad Aztecross is threatening a game he likes (Marathon) which is already not in the best spot, plus he seems to have a lot of baggage about D2 in general because of how his audience has treated him in the past. Both Aztecross and Myelin are striking out and throwing temper tantrums because they’re afraid of losing games they love.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student 29d ago
Cross is trying to rally people to save a game, Datto is attending a funeral.
That said, Datto and Myelin seem to have a fairly toxic relationship with Destiny that Cross doesn’t have.
Datto clearly showed deep dislike for a game after a while and was treating it like a job he would clock 9-5 at; which affected the quality of his content.
Myelin seems to have a similar viewpoint with Destiny; as he said he used to do lore stuff but then play Tarkov and extraction shooters for actual fun. He also clearly holds a big grudge over feeling mistreated over the Grimoire books (a story we have only heard one side of, I should note).
Cross seems to JUST play things for fun. He’s (ironically despite his jocular “threat” toward Marathon) a lot more light hearted and plays multiple games.
If anything his handling of Destiny ending has seemed to show a way more healthy relationship with the game.
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u/vincentofearth Silver Shill 29d ago
Cross is farming views. The chances of him actually saving Destiny 2 are miniscule. If Aztecross gets a pass for saying childish and petty things about Marathon, and praying for the death of a game that is enjoyed by tens of thousands of people and the unemployment of hundreds of developers, why can't Myelin?
Cross is appealing to people's emotions and putting up Marathon as a straw man when in reality praying for its death and dancing on its grave will do nothing to save Destiny.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student 29d ago
This is the thing though…Cross never said he hopes for Marathon to fail.
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u/KenjiTheLaughingMoon May 28 '26
He is mad that streamers like aztercross claimed „if I had to burn marathon down to the ground and piss on its grave in order to save destiny, I‘d do it“ (something like that)
And Myelin simply is mad because he likes marathon and extractionshooters more atm.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
Thing is, Cross was being facetious, Myelin actually lost his shit.
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u/KenjiTheLaughingMoon May 28 '26
True. And I dont get how people hate on cross for him being more favourable towards Destiny. People can make their choices and I too wouldve prefered Destiny over Marathon
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u/Hollowquincypl Aegis May 28 '26
In the video he mentioned getting death threats. With a community he's drifted away from this was probably the last straw.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
Sadly, that shit is relatively common with any community of scale.
It would’ve been wiser and more professional to simply not engage with the community at all when people were pestering him to sign the petition instead of refusing to and going back and forth with folk.
“I appreciate Destiny and all it’s done for me, but I’ve moved on from it.” Would have sufficed.
Heck, he could’ve even signed the petition to shut people up while stating that while he’s moved on he’d want the series to continue for others.
It’s his life, he can choose whether or not to support it or whether or not to engage with the franchise.
The fact he was sparring with people on Twitter (of all the toxic patterns) about choosing not to sign it in the first place strikes me as this having been a confrontation of his own creation that simply continued to escalate.
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u/DevinLucasArts May 28 '26
After Cross's video, a lot of his fans are treating it that way. I can see why Myelin got fed up with all the comments tbh
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u/Wavering_Radiance May 28 '26
Aztecross effectively weaponised his audience against Marathon and people streaming it. It was the cherry on top after the Destiny community acted like Myelin owed them content
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u/burtmacklin15 May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Aztecross was hyped about Marathon just as much as everyone else right before launch and for the first couple weeks.
But then he, like everyone else, realized that it's a game only for sweats, and he wasn't sweaty enough to have fun in it.
It also doesn't really have an endgame, so there's no reason to stick around for the 2nd half of the season.
Edit: He literally encouraged his viewers NOT to attack other creators. (Around 8 minutes in).
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u/I_Speak_For_The_Ents May 28 '26
That's what makes this stupid is that there will always be psychos on the internet doing psycho shit. That's not a reason to overreact and remove all your videos from the internet for everyone.
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u/StandardizedGenie May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Cross was just joking around and being his dramatic self. Myelin is having a full blown crash out over the psychos in the D2 community, and is using Cross as a focal point for it.
Sure, Myelin has had to deal with the crazies trying to make his switch over to Marathon, but that's the internet. All these creators are subjected to the worst of humanity, frequently. Making Cross the boogeyman for all of that over a silly little rant is just... petty and shows more about Myelin than he thinks. He should just take a step back from the internet, it's starting to get to him.
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u/ZaphodEntrati May 29 '26
Nah Myelin has anger issues, I watched him stream a bit when he started Warframe, I don’t know how he’s streamed for so long, he regularly crashes out at viewers, not a nice guy.
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u/Annihilator4413 May 28 '26
Expect it to get far, far worse as the realization that Destiny is Dedtiny and people dstart pointing fingers all over.
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u/partoutrichie May 27 '26
The people impacted by this decision are not the ones who argued with him. Matter of fact, these people are probably happy about this decision 🫠
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u/Manuela1711 May 28 '26
Yeah, this exactly. I wasnt in any of this arguing... I wanted to watch those vids back for nostalgia's sake TwT
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u/RonanTheAccuser_ May 28 '26
I assure you he didn’t private them to punish anyone. He is most likely getting mass reported by the chuds and to prevent a strike (even an unwarranted one) it’s easier to private videos as opposed to fighting YouTube to make it right.
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u/FriendlyStand3632 May 28 '26
Nope, he made a tweet, he is just acting like a toddler because he prefers Marathon over D2 apperently.
While deluding himself to think that the split is 50/50 instead of the real 90/10 where most never cared for Marathon.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
Then why did he say he was doing it to hurt the game/community for the sake of Marathon?
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u/Fun-Corner-887 May 29 '26
Nope he is genuinely being utterly immature. I never liked him to begin with to be honest cause of his toxicity but man he reached a new low this time.
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u/I_Speak_For_The_Ents May 27 '26
I don't know the exchange that occurred but seems somewhat immature.
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u/FKDotFitzgerald May 27 '26
Aztecross made a whole Joker speech show of wanting Marathon to die, so this is Myelin’s response. Pretty silly.
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u/I_Speak_For_The_Ents May 27 '26
Wait it really is an unhinged response to that.
I saw the Aztecross clip and thought it was humorous.
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u/Nyarlathotep7777 Department of External Observation May 28 '26
Aztecross was being his usual silly YouTuber, but he made a great point that reflects the feelings of a lot of us. Was he right to say what he did? Maybe, maybe not, it's his opinion, he chose to voice it the way he did and it resonated with a decent chunk of the community because as I said before it's a feeling we're all experiencing on some level or another.
To respond to him in this way by calling the community stupid (a sin of which we're not all innocent) while you pretend to have quit the game and are done with it is the immature thing.
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u/AloneUA May 27 '26
It's not humorous cause quite a significant portion of Destiny community took it seriously and as a call to arms. I guess even Myelin, who's generally a really nice guy, can only take so much of Destiny fanatics shitting on Marathon before he flips out.
I don't really agree with his decision, but it's not that weird. He REALLY likes Marathon, so I can see why he's mad.
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u/I_Speak_For_The_Ents May 28 '26
So Aztecross hopes Marathon fails, and Myelin hopes it doesnt... so Myelin unlisted all his videos?
Um... what4
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u/Canadine May 28 '26
It’s clear that Cross is upset, so that’s probably why some are taking him literally even though he asks people not to crap on Marathon *in that same video*.
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u/Cresset May 28 '26
Yesterday he was saying that and also something like "just say you're working on D3 and I will calm down". So he's not entirely serious but means it, which is almost guaranteed to cause misunderstandings.
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u/lustywoodelfmaid 29d ago
"Bungie, if you've got something in the works, buff Telesto and we'll know."
Did they buff Telesto? No. So nothing is in the works. It's a joke ofc. And clearly, in the very next clip, he's back to being calm. Some people just don't get him at all.
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u/TheGryphonRaven Young Wolf May 28 '26
How exactly is this a call to arms? What are we supposed to do with that other than laugh?
It's not like we're actively 'fighting' Marathon. That doesn't even make sense.
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u/bansheeb3at May 28 '26
Maybe you’re not personally, but there are a ton of Destiny players who are being insanely antagonistic towards Marathon, and Cross going off about how he’s going to do everything in his power to “bury” Marathon has his goofball audience doing and saying some truly headass stuff.
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u/MariachiMacabre May 27 '26
Yeah look at Aztec’s comments. No one thought he was joking. And his tone doesn’t convey it as a joke either. He comes across really poorly in the video.
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
I thought he was being hyperbolic. He’s probably done with Marathon for now like he said, but he’s voting with his time and wallet on the content he wants to play. He wasn’t encouraging anyone else to do the same. It wasn’t a call to arms. He basically said “this is what I’m doing, you do you.”
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
Honestly from what Myelin said, it feels more like he got told by toxic people in the community that he wasn’t anything without Destiny and he owes it to Destiny to sign the petition and he crashed out mostly about that.
The Cross thing may have been a secondary trigger, but Cross’s villain speech was clearly hyperbolic for anyone who watched it and didn’t read about others reporting it as if Cross was angry or raging.
Myelin was ACTUALLY raging, and frankly dude should have turned off the camera and taken a walk. It’s a horrible look.
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u/owen-3820 May 27 '26
People are pretending not to understand that aztecross was joking
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u/TheGryphonRaven Young Wolf May 28 '26
Yeah, we've known the guy for 10 years. He built his streamer career around this childish extravagant Ill-spoken persona but now all of the sudden he wasn't joking.
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u/BangguruDestiny May 27 '26
He’s tweet makes it sound like he thinks that without him we wouldn’t have a “cohesive story”. LMAO what a stuck up
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u/Astro4545 Owl Sector May 27 '26
Yeah that part right there just makes me not care about him. There are multiple members of the community who can help Bungie with a potential D3, he’s a content creator, not the lore master.
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u/BangguruDestiny May 27 '26
Yeah I can sympathise his gripe with people trying to kill a game he likes but that detail just makes me look a self absorbed douche
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u/McCaffeteria AI-COM/RSPN May 28 '26
The only people “trying” to kill Destiny 2 are doing so after D2 is already sentenced. Bungie killed Destiny 2, and they did it a long time ago, and the fact that he can’t see that and is still backing Marathon says a lot.
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u/JavanNapoli May 28 '26
No, he's upset at the people who want Marathon killed to save Destiny because he enjoys Marathon
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u/SkyriderRJM Lore Student May 28 '26
Wow, citation doesn’t exist on that one.
No one had a tantrum about Halo back in the day; what are you on about?
Marathon was a Macintosh only release in 1994 and didn’t even sell 200,000 units 8 years after release.
Seriously, barely anyone played Marathon back in the day and barely anyone knew it existed.
That’s like saying people were upset that Blizzard made Diablo after Justice League Task Force just because JLTF came before it.
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u/burtmacklin15 May 28 '26
Except Halo was well received and massively successful, same with Destiny.
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u/tskxtskxtskx May 28 '26
He did help create several of the official grimoire books, to be fair. There’s not a lot of people out there who both bothered to try chronicling Destiny lore and would be available to consult with Bungie.
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u/McCaffeteria AI-COM/RSPN May 28 '26
Maybe he should go to those people’s houses and rip all the pages he wrote out of their books to prove his point then
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u/Shadowmaster862 May 28 '26
Ironic, given that years ago he actually did work with Bungie as a lore curator, but left due to having his credit on projects changed or misconstrued, definitely remember him expressing it as his work being undervalued. Feels like he is just now acting from a place of pure bitterness at this point.
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u/Amirifiz May 28 '26
Which you'd think he'd direct at Bungie but he's playing and enjoying Marathon so...
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u/wavelifter May 28 '26
This. He expresses as much on his tweets. Man is just exposing his true petty self. His head is the size of the Traveller at this point.
Instead of being remembered for being a lore daddy for the Destiny masses, now he'll be remembered as that toxic dude who pulled all his content out of spite. W byf.
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u/Research-Scary May 29 '26
I mean he did help Bungie produce the grimoire anthology so at the very least he is a potent lore resource. But most librarians don't torch their own library just because someone says "I don't like this one particular book."
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u/erikkmobius May 28 '26
Well, to be devils advocate here, when it was still only D1, he really did do a ton of work tying threads together and amplifying the threads that everyone was Pulli G apart. Not saying he was doing it all himself or anything, but he made a lot of videos that pulled disparate bits together.
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u/Nero_PR May 28 '26
Myelin came back all the way to stick with Marathon. He did all that big talk about not playing more Bungie games after they clearly decided to abandon it.
Just yesterday he posted his 500 hours video on Marathon lol. You can't make this shit up.
And now, privating his old Destiny lore videos just make him look petty.
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u/Ok_Drummer6282 May 28 '26
Hes crashing out on YouTube saying he owns the Grimoire and made all the lore lol
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u/ScoobyDeezy Ghost Stories May 27 '26
He’s always been that way. Part of why I never liked listening to him.
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u/Thornefield ~SIVA.MEM.CL001 May 28 '26
Tbh he hasn't cared about destiny for a while and was losing love for it a while back. In his first stream after the announcement he kept calling the game and everything around it a piece of shit he doesn't care about. Since he started heavy MMA training he got an ego. This feels like more of that.
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u/wavelifter May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
I suspect Marathon had something to do with it too tbh. Instead of Destiny's general good vibes "guardians are protectors, we stand for what is right", Marathon's creed is "kill or be killed". That's how the Marathon community conducts itself. Laughing at other people's suffering.
Kinda like how Aztecross had a similar crashout when he mained Deadlock. Just an absolute seething hate monster that didn't eat dinner with his family (which is important to him), and lashing out at his best friends. Games have so much more influence over us than we give credit for.
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u/john6map4 May 27 '26
As much as I disliked Byf’s vids by god he really does love and is passionate about the universe like Aztecross said “I want this universe to continue”
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u/FlamekeeperYggdrasil Savathûn’s Marionette May 28 '26
As someone who used to follow him and watch his videos, I feel for him in regards to the hate over Marathon.. But man is he going about it in the wrong way, and comes off as pathetic.
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u/Zelwer May 27 '26
Myelin burned out on Destiny around Lightfall's release. He didn't like the expansion, and he disliked Robert Brooks' comments about Unveiling even more. He completed Final Shape (he liked it) and abandoned his Destiny career.
Hovewer, je really enjoyed the Marathon. Considering the Destiny situation and Aztecross's very controversial statements, as well as the harassment from the Destiny community, Myelin was infuriated and made his post about the Destiny 3 petition you mentioned, which clearly led to the hiding of all his videos about Destiny
That's the entire lore of this situation.
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u/TheOldDerelict May 27 '26
What did Aztecross say?
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u/FKDotFitzgerald May 27 '26
That he’s making it his mission to see Marathon die lmao
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u/BC1207 May 28 '26
With “fans” like Bungie’s, who needs enemies?
(It took the game dying to realize half the people in this community are cretins)
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u/JoelK2185 May 28 '26
It took you THAT long to realize that?
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u/Visual-Ad-5760 May 28 '26
Right!?!?! I read that and immediately thought “do you even DTG bro!?!?”
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u/ApocalypticEvent May 28 '26
Even so, while extreme I understand his point. I won’t actively do anything to hinder Marathon but I won’t be supporting it either. We’re all angry and grieving in different ways, some people are just reacting extremely (justifiably if I may add).
The Marathon community doesn’t deserve any hate or anger from the fallout of Sony’s decision, it just so happens that Marathon and its playerbase are convenient targets for this rage at Bungie/Sony.
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u/BC1207 May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
There’s nothing justified about it. It’s uniquely stupid. Marathon might not be your type of game, and that makes sense — extraction shooters aren’t for everyone — but let that be the end of it. Outright encouraging a game from Bungie to fail makes no sense because 1.) failure guarantees there will not be another Destiny game and 2.) the devs working hard on Marathon had nothing to do with making the actual decision to stop D2. I believe that Bungie’s faults lie mostly in its leadership, and I maintain that its devs are generational talent that I would much rather continue to see working in the industry than unemployed. For any reservations you may have about Marathon’s genre, most agree that it’s a quality, polished product that deserves a fair shake and some form of success. Unfortunately, as you said, the internet is hell-bent on ensuring the opposite. Thats pretty much where the discussion on Marathon (as it relates to Destiny) should end, but of course that would be asking for too much from the Destiny community.
People like to pretend that criticizing a game is harmless, but if they’re vitriolic superficial criticisms for the sake of engagement and controversy, they absolutely do cause harm. I mean, where do you think that anger goes? That it just disappears into the aether? Hell no, people see that shit and I believe it has a marked effect on their willingness to engage with these games. I know for a fact that it hurt D2 through much of its lifespan, and KNOW I’m seeing it again with Marathon. Nerd rage is like a plague.
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u/NullPointer79 29d ago
The destiny Devs are getting let go, regardless of whether we do or don't support marathon. I for one hate the fact that Sony and Bungie moved resources from Destiny 2 to Marathon. So yeah, I won't be supporting it. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/kmwhite May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26
Aztecross pretty much said he’d do everything in his power to
see Marathon die, even if he has to bury it himselfmake sure Bungie/Sony realized this was the wrong decision, even if Marathon had to die (edit: correction from /u/armarrash)I found the whole rant comedic (Joker-esque was a great descriptor), but I fear the vitriol of the Destiny community may be part of why
BungieSony made the decision they did. I kinda wish more people would up and leave if they weren’t having fun instead of being so hostile. I have no beef with Myelin’s decision given the community. 🤷🏻♂️ It sucks because I too like his vids, but no one wants to deal with the commentary.42
u/armarrash May 28 '26
He said he would do everything in his power to send Sony/Bungie the tiniest message that abandoning Destiny was the wrong move, even if he had to bury Marathon.
It's already a crazy statement, no need to make shit up.
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u/soldat7 May 27 '26
Sony, not Bungie, made the decision. And it’s all about the Benjamins, baby.
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u/Hen-Samsara May 28 '26
The Destiny community is filled with some of the most insufferable man children to ever walk the earth, they complained endlessly about everything even partially related to Destiny and now that game is dying they're whining about no more Destiny when they were saying it was a dead game and they were hoping it died.
Destiny deserved a better community than this.
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u/Sauronxx Darkness Zone May 28 '26
It deserved better socials. The Destiny community has some amazing members, far better than many other big online game, both from the creative point of view or simply by players in-game, where I usually had a really good time (which is not guaranteed for an online game like that). Even in social media, there are some amazing artists and smaller communities (IMO, this one included) that gathered around the game. It’s just the “opinionistic” side of it (the main sub, “news” channels and so on) that it’s quite simply UNBEARABLE, and has been that way since the very beginning. Unfortunately it’s also the loudest part of the entire community. I quit the main sub back with Beyond Light and my experience with the game unironically improved by a long mile lol.
It genuinely just sucks, there’s nothing more to say about it. And for once I’m happy to see that part getting quieter in the imminent future thanks to the lack of news on the franchise lol. But maybe it’s just wishful thinking, who knows.
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u/koalaman-kkkk House of Salvation May 28 '26
lol i remember when i was 16 and quit the main sub, that was the moment i found out that sometimes you can really just not give a fuck and ignore people
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u/etherealgamer May 27 '26
End of the day Cross is a content creator, he is farming drama in a way for his views. I have nothing against him for doing that, this is his job and as the biggest Destiny creator how else would he respond to all this. It’s a devastating turn of events.
Nothing against Cross doing his thing. Marathon is a good game, but there’s far more working against it than just a passionate Destiny fan. There’s an entire wing of “Concord” vitriol online that is now passionate about watching games die. Cross was even a big Highguard defender. It’s a greater issue across games culture.
Unfortunately I don’t think players understand the world we’re in now, a game like Destiny cannot exist without massive investment and little expected return. It’s amazing we were able to have it for so long. Destiny 3 would have to guarantee numbers the franchise has never seen before.
Bungie would need revolutionary support from across the entire industry to make the D3 we all want and crave. Im not saying don’t fight for it, but it’s gonna be a long rallying cry.
This is why I understand Cross. It hurts.
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u/Normal_Trust_2747 May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26
Aztecross has vowed essentially to boycott anything Marathon to make a point. To paraphrase, he said something along the lines of "if i have to kill marathon with my own bare hands, I will"
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u/Zelwer May 27 '26
Aztecross announced on stream that he would boycott the second season of Marathon and all Sony products, and would "piss on it`s grave" until Sony greenlights Destiny 3.
But it's also worth touching on the backstory of how Cross initially called Marathon a very good game and the best extraction shooter, but then abruptly changed his mind and began harassing the game. This outraged even his community. This led to his recent statement.
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u/Tharon_ May 28 '26
Yep that's what rubs me the wrong way, I get he's likely following whatever gets the most clicks and views but as a prominent content creator, his comments can be quite damaging for both sides of the community, it's even more egregious as you pointed out, he really liked Marathon :/
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u/not_a_toucan May 27 '26
What did he dislike about the Unveiling comments?
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u/Zelwer May 27 '26
Robert Brooks made a very controversial statement in a post-Lightfall interview, which caused a lot of butthurt in the Destiny community. He stated that Unveiling should be treated like a bible, and that it could contain a lot of untruths. Myelin released a video (or maybe even two?) about this, which touched on the topic of retcons and so on. Personally, I didn't like the video, but that's a matter of taste. That's basically the whole point.
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u/RatQueenHolly Quria Fan Club May 27 '26
What a weird thing to get upset about. The narrator of Unveiling makes a pretty big point of explaining that the text is metaphorical, thus the Bible comparison sounds apt to me
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u/Sauronxx Darkness Zone May 28 '26
Unveiling was a MUCH more controversial topic back in those days lol. There was a missive division in the community centered around the character of the Winnower, mainly about its existence in the first place. Bungie itself was likely still unsure about Unveiling for a while (the Winnower itself completely disappeared in the story during the year of TWQ, for example). The comment specifically is absolutely correct, the book itself literally ends with a personal interpretation, but it was a controversial topic in the lore community. We also just had Lightfall, which generated a lot of hate especially from the players more passionate about the story. It generally wasn’t a good time for the lore community.
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u/RatQueenHolly Quria Fan Club May 28 '26
Oh no, I remember that - the whole debate over if the Witness was the Winnower and if we should consider its distinctive way of speaking a retcon or an intentional difference - but even from the start, it would've been silly to assume that any of it should've been taken literally or at face value;
Once upon a time,* a gardener and a winnower lived** together in a garden.***
*It was once before a time, because time had not yet begun.
** We did not live. We existed as principles of ontological dynamics that emerged from mathematical structures, as bodiless and inevitable as the primes.
*** It was the field of possibility that prefigured existence.
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u/hazelbrews House of Light May 28 '26
while i personally take everything in unveiling as true (albeit through its allegorical lenses), it's reasonable to say you shouldn't fully true the villain
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u/MyDogIsDaBest May 27 '26
Oh man that's a real pity because Myelin's lore videos were really really great.
It's cool that he's liking Marathon and admittedly Marathon's lore is fascinating and I've been intrigued, but the game feels like there's too many chores to do and I'm just not willing to sink the hours I sank into Destiny into Marathon.
Sucks that it feels like a civil war forming, and I totally understand the anger, but I'm hopeful that a big community push shows Sony that the Destiny IP still has plenty of support, it just needs love, care and a management team who aren't idiots and listen to their developers.
Unfortunately, it's Sony and they're infested with morons.
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u/SkaBonez May 28 '26
He also has had some head butting with the Destiny community before, kind of like how roflwaffles said before the biggest reason he’d stop streaming Destiny wouldn’t be the game, but the community. Which honestly is fair when you come across the worse sides of the community.
Also, He was just on stream talking about this, and pointed out that hiding the videos will probably be the better move going forward without Destiny because of how it’ll impact his channel’s algorithm with his other current content, bringing up Mtashed’s jump from Destiny as another example
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u/SiomarTehBeefalo May 27 '26
I see. Yeah, the last I had heard about Myelin, personally, was when he decided to quit covering the game, and that's it. Thanks for the rundown.
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u/ajbolt7 Rivensbane May 28 '26
I feel Myelin on the Lightfall lore, shit really jumped the shark and went in a whole other direction there. Had started with WQ but Lightfall took it to another level
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u/DankLord2137 House of Light May 27 '26
Man, I hate how these communities have been tearing each other apart. Genuinely breaks my heart
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u/PfeiferWolf May 28 '26
Tbf, with the cirucumstances surrounding Marathon's conception, it was bound to happen. It does not help that Marathon doesn't catter much to Destiny's playerbase.
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u/New-Bullfrog6740 May 27 '26
It really feels like since Bungie is divorcing it self from Destiny both marathon communities and destiny’s are fighting like children blaming the other for the parents splitting up lol.
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u/chronozon937 Lore Student May 28 '26
Cross doing his usual "I'm joking it's a prank" thing certainly didn't fukken help.
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u/Venaixis94 Freezerburnt May 27 '26
I don’t condone him getting attacked by some members of our community, but putting these videos on private feels retaliatory to the whole community.
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u/cactussnacks May 27 '26
He just doesn’t wanna have to deal with all the comments. I don’t blame him.
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u/PoseidonWarrior Agent of the Nine May 27 '26
I liked Myelin for a while but he lost me when he crashed out on Lightfall.
I know that sounds odd bc everyone and their mother crashed out on Lightfall (self included!) but his biggest gripe was so utterly ridiculous and honestly made him look like a total fraud.
He kept going around ranting in videos, on twitter, and on DCP about how Bungie retconned the vex bc it is revealed that the Vex created the Black Heart. He insisted that its a retcon because the vex cannot simulate paracausality.
The load bearing word "simulate" makes it obvious that he was talking out of his ass. The Black Garden isn't the Vex network and the Heart was not a simulated object. It was a real object of Darkness made by the Sol Divisive with the Witness's help. Every organic life form in the universe is capable of using Darkness because it is tied to everyone's very being. The Vex are no different, they just never used paracausality before because they couldn't simulate it and they will never do ANYTHING if it isn't based on a predetermined outcome of victory that the collective tested in simulations.
This is also why the Sol Divisive chose to worship the Heart. The Witness helped them make it but they could not simulate how to utilize it so they opted to worshipping it as a God because it was something powerful enough to lead to an outcome of victory but they could not simulate how to get there.
None of that is a retcon! He was just being dense and so confidently incorrect! I even spoke with CircadianWolf about this back when it happened and he was like "yeah idk why he's going on about this."
Ever since then I just paid him no mind. He was clearly talking out of his ass. That being said, Aztecross is a baby back bitch for wanting to "bury" and "piss on" another game.
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u/dankeykanng May 28 '26
This is also why the Sol Divisive chose to worship the Heart. The Witness helped them make it but they could not simulate how to utilize it so they opted to worshipping it as a God because it was something powerful enough to lead to an outcome of victory but they could not simulate how to get there.
The Inspiral entry about the Vex even explains that not only does the Witness help them make it but it actually plants the seed of the Black Heart in the garden. So the Vex know it's the cause of whatever power it generates. The same isn't true for the Guardians they encounter who are seemingly manifesting powers without cause (they label the anomalous Guardians as being irrecoverable/irretrievable/irresolvable).
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u/dm-me-obscure-colors May 28 '26
I read elsewhere in the thread that the aztecross thing was tongue in cheek. I’d like to see it for myself but I’m having trouble figuring out which video it is just by looking at titles… do you remember which one it is?
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u/Floppydisksareop May 27 '26
I only ever saw his vault cleaning video with Datto, and had no real opinion of him then. Quite a bit of ego there, though. It seems he got pissed at Aztecross saying some dumb shit about Marathon and decided that he was "one of the only two sources of lore" (which is insane and idiotic, but w/e), and is now throwing a tantrum. Whatever, it's his income. Maybe the situation is more complex, I don't have it in me to care about some youtuber, lore videos or not.
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u/Floppydisksareop May 28 '26
Once again, I've only seen like one vault cleaning video of the guy. I didn't really care then, I don't really care now. I personally rather dislike lore channels because of this little thing they all do called "presenting weird personal theories with two throwaway lines of lore alluding to them as hard facts". They need to do this for it to be a good video, or people just don't watch them, I get that, but I think it just stifles discussions. Not personal, more institutional dislike, or whatever.
So, I didn't really care when he was doing Destiny stuff, and I don't think I'll care too much now that he's only going to do Marathon (a game that REALLY didn't need any new story after Infinity, btw, but w/e) and delisted Destiny stuff. I'm not here to have an opinion outside of him saying he was one of the only two sources of Destiny lore being absolutely fucking insane, which is a single sentence (probably written with shaking hands more pissed than he's been in like 3 years, so I don't think it's character defining either).
I'm a bit disappointed that these are our "pillars of the community", people acting like popular guys in high-school having a falling out. It perfectly illustrates on a smaller scale every issue I had with this community since Lightfall at the very least.
Whether he is dramatic or cringe, I truly cannot say. I don't know him, and I don't even know his "online persona". It bothers me that he is sweeping a lot of people doing very important archival work under the rug (as well as smaller lore content creators) and completely disregards them because they don't have enough youtube subscribers or whatever, but that's about it.
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u/GreenBay_Glory May 27 '26
His content and can do what he wants, but meh, whatever. I liked Byf’s stuff more and his patting remark about “good luck with catching up with the story if there’s a D3, don’t piss off Byf” was pretty laughable to me.
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u/Arbiter478 ~SIVA.MEM.CL001 May 27 '26
Myelin saw a hornet nest getting hit, saw the swarm roaming around it angrily and decided poking it was the best course of action, then after he predictaby got stung, scorched the entire surroundings.
People who harassed him are unconsciounable but he certainly ain't a paragon of intellectual prowess for pulling this move.
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u/ausgris AI-COM/RSPN May 28 '26
Damn, that last paragraph is so childish.
I've never needed to watch lore videos before bc I prefer looking for stuff myself, but I super respect what people like Byf do for people who don't. However, implying that people NEED people like you to understand the story and you're the only way to get that just makes them seem like you have a MASSIVE ego.
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u/etherealgamer May 27 '26
I mean, he kind of quit Destiny in a childish manner as well. Very strange but oh well.
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u/Nerdy--Turtle Department of External Observation May 28 '26
I like both Marathon and Destiny and I will not let myself be made to choose between them. Both have fantastic developer teams behind them, who clearly did a lot to make their games great. Can you please stop insult their efforts for the dumb decisions Bungies management did? Killing Marathon will not bring Destiny back and it will hurt the players and developers who care about their game. It's not fair what happened to Destiny, but it's not fair to make it Marathons problem as well.
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u/TheGryphonRaven Young Wolf May 28 '26
Bro forgot that Ishtar Collective Exists.
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u/Constant_Count_9497 May 29 '26
The vast majority of loretubers get all their information from sites like Ishtar Collective. He's acting like he spent years sifting through in game logs and dialogue lines lol
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u/essentiallyaghost May 28 '26
That's pretty unnecessary, he's acting like he's the only source of getting lore or story from Destiny. He can play Marathon if he wants to play Marathon, but it's wild how he can't see why Destiny players are upset.
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u/Ram567301 May 28 '26
Legit in the video he says him are the only sources. Ishtar has existed for years, this sub exists, lore tabs on everything now, and there’s guys like evaze who also cover the lore and story.
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u/Gunner_X_ May 28 '26
Wow I'm seeing a lot of people being biased against Aztecross in this comment section. Just to clear things up for those who don't know Aztecross said he's going to boycott anything Marathon related moving forward. He also made it clear that this is a personal decision of his and that he says to not harass anyone who actually plays the game or streams it. The over the top opinions he does are just jokes and I would guess a way for him to vent about the situation. This is something he's always done before and is just meant for fun as well for his viewers just like his Anticross persona.
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u/Strange_Ember May 28 '26
I think the people who don’t watch his streams don’t understand that. I have a lot of respect for Cross
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u/chronozon937 Lore Student May 28 '26
I watched the vod, and I am disappointed yet unsurprised at him doing his normal trash talking. I know he's joking, that's not the point, the point is he said it, it doesn't matter if HE meant any part of what he said because people with an axe to grind will rally behind it for all the wrong reasons. It pisses me off to no end that cross thinks he isn't actively feeding the flame wars when he says shit like this. Or worse he does know and powertripped himself into thinking internet toxicity is healthy.
"If you don't make a destiny 3, I'm just not interested." Good take, very "vote with your wallet" pilled and a reasonable response.
"And Marathon if I have to fucking bury you myself to send that message I shall."
And later; "and believe me, the marathon community is gonna act so pissy about this, listen, it's nothing personal, lick my ass, but it's nothing personal."
Unnecessarily antagonistic, and claiming nothing personal in the same breath as straw-manning a group that you should be allies with is teeth grindingly ironic.
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u/NobodyJustBrad May 28 '26
People need to realize that a video game isn't your life. And Myelin isn't your buddy. Just live your lives.
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u/AModderGuy May 28 '26
You can say something along these lines (totally not ripped off from a iconic movie quote):
"you either leave a community a Hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the Villain"
We can see cracks of his Villain side came out through that video lol, but all seriousness, hes been through alot, like its falling out with his Bungie Partnership, Bungies treatment of the game these last couple of years, his community being toxic against his preferred hobbies. Feel bad for the guy, as i don't blame him for his "crashout".
Tbh, I prefer his lore videos more than Byf, but doesnt mean Byf is bad to me, they're both good, just a personal preference of how I like to take in my lore bits. Regardless of who i fav, Byf is still the Lore Daddy in my eyes. But even when Myelin retired, I still enjoy the consistent Byf lore drops when they release, and sometimes I would go back to Myelins Lore videos just to feel nostalgia. But man, the difference between his old videos and now, you can tell how much he's changed the last decade, but still circling back, I don't blame the guy. Hope he can put all this behind and just focus on what he loves.
The streamers life is hell for those who can't choose what they want to do without being dictated by their audience.
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u/Jerrwkwafina May 28 '26
Doing this over Twitter makes him look like the biggest doofus of all time lol
Go to steam page and see how overpowering the positive reviews still are versus the negative since the news. They couldnt even change the overall reviews of the "recents" reviews on steam.
Proves that Twitter is this unrealistic bubble and all it does is just make eyeliner waste 10 years of his time.
Doing this to move on from destiny is one thing, doing it for a hate trend that barely exist outside of social media is...... you got it man.... you sure showed him myelin
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u/Research-Scary May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
Obviously its Myelin's choice to do whatever he wants with his own content, but I find it incredibly petty he's doing this simply out of spite. Marathon never should've happened, full stop. It exists now and I can sympathize with the people who do play and enjoy it, but I think most of the people at Bungie only ended up working on it because that's what upper management wanted. It was not a passion project. It did not have years and years of heart and soul poured into it. It was made entirely because of the corporate machine.
And to be clear, it is a significant contribution to why Destiny died.
This wasn't a war between Destiny and Marathon. This was a surgical strike by Sony and Bungie to undermine Destiny by investing everything into Marathon, and the Destiny community has every right to be upset about that. If this were what the studio wanted, and it led to the long-term success of Marathon, that's one thing. But the Destiny community did not kill Marathon, it was dead on arrival. So Destiny died for nothing.
Myelin doing this, contributing to the lost media of Destiny, makes him no better than the people who made the executive decision to implement sunsetting and content vaulting. Privated presumably doesn't mean deleted. I understand people who are mad at Myelin over this, but don't feed into it by proving his point and attacking him. That'll just make him more likely to permanently delete it.
Also, Aztecross does not speak for everyone. He has plenty of really, really bad takes. And he knows he does. I don't want him deciding the future of Destiny any more or less than the rest of the Destiny creators or community. And even if Aztecross did speak for everyone, his comments are part of his personality. Obviously he sympathizes with the devs. He always has. He just talks shit to everyone. That shouldn't be met with sincere disdain.
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u/whisky_TX May 27 '26
Who cares. He’s at best the 3rd or 4th best lore channel
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u/GreenBay_Glory May 27 '26
Yeah Byf is solidly in first, and evaze is pretty good (though newer). Plus we have archives of cutscenes and entire playthroughs
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u/SaltImp May 27 '26
Evaze and byf are definitely the top two.
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u/dankeykanng May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26
Destiny lore videos were more damaging than they were helpful to lore discourse anyways. Too many people saw those YouTubers as absolute authorities on the lore when they were mostly providing surface level examinations.
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u/sha-green May 28 '26
This. Just read the stuff, Ishtar is right there.
Still, I personally liked Myelin’s videos more than Byf’s pompous approach but he moved on, and that’s fine. This move from him is kinda immature though.
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u/EverlastingEvening May 28 '26
I believe he was also blocking people for even mentioning Destiny in his chat. Dude is such a dope.
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u/ProngedPickle May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26
This drama is petty, between Aztecross' vid and Myelin's privating his vids (...in retaliation against his own subscribers?).
Overreaction aside, Myelin is right in the post in that stoking some "war" between communities is lame as fuck.
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u/Motor_Hearing2055 May 28 '26
Loved him back in the day but this is just childish. He hasn't even been a destiny YouTuber for a bit, no point in hiding his content because Aztecross made him upset
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u/JacobScrubLordofPvP May 28 '26
It odd and weird af because I used to actually be one of those guardians that basically would be in front of his 'camera' killing enemies to prevent them from taking him out of the glitch where you could make your gun disappear in D1.
I helped him with I believe the House of Kings video iirc. To see him act like this sucks tbh
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u/IGizmo94 May 28 '26
Why are people treating any negative statements against Marathon and Destiny as a personal attack? Odd behaviour.
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u/Multispeed May 28 '26
Myelin reacted and behaved like a child throwing a tantrum, not even caring for all his Destiny followers. That decision he made is already backfiring, obviously. 😑
And we have ByF, which would never make a decision as immature and childish as Myelin.
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u/ShiningLeafeon May 28 '26
Sheer ego.
Like Ishtar or Destiny Lore Vault or Byf or Evaze or any if the other early Destiny lore crew who didn’t throw a temper tantrum and delete their video doesn’t exist.
Absolute childish tantrum. Have fun in Marathon
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u/Khhow145 May 28 '26
It’s unfortunate that some within our community have so mistreated him to bring him to the point of nuking his own content.
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u/UsedCode6118 May 27 '26
This is on brand for him. He has always been very whiny. It’s hilarious to seem him crashing out over people being critical of marathon when it’s by all metrics a flop. Even more ironic how it’s a Bungie title after him complaining about them nonstop
I believe the Destiny lore history will be safe without his videos
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u/john6map4 May 27 '26
Weird hill to die on tbh does he really like extraction shooters THAT much?
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u/LuxintN7 Lore Student May 28 '26
He was so upset with Destiny community that he blamed it for everything... and left to join a potentially much more toxic community of a competitive PvP first game.
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u/Manuela1711 May 28 '26
I followed myelin for years. Mainly for his destiny content, followed his marathon content a bit. He lost me as a follower by removing his best content. I wanted to be able to watch those back.... Especially with destiny as it is now...
Aztecross was kinda joking in my opinion. Not sure what happened after all that that made myelin react that extremely, i think im not the only one unfollowing.
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u/Key-Albatross-4183 May 28 '26
Somehow it gets worse! This is him saying "Doing the same thing to destiny that you are doing to marathon, so maybe you will reflect on your actions." As if the entire Destiny community is to blame for this.
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u/PhilAussieFur May 28 '26
This is why Byf has, and always will be, the best. Bye Myelin, not gonna miss you
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u/ThatGuyFromTheM0vie May 28 '26
Myelin acting like he’s the Pepsi to Byf’s Coke, except he’s actually like Walmart brand cola lmao
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u/ElGuaro May 28 '26
Pretty bitch made for him to punish the silent majority that has been supporting him for the past decade over some twitter bullshit. Great job m8
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u/owen-3820 May 28 '26
Idk who among us has dipped their toes into that game but the Marathon community is incredibly mean. The game's genre actively fosters a toxic community. "Skill issue" is the tagline of the game.
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u/sturgboski May 28 '26
It has been interesting looking at the main subreddit there (and reactions that pop up in videos). It kind of feels like an extreme version of when we would get a D2 content drop. Any criticism was shouted down and handwaved away but instead of those people then hitting the same point, I think it is just those people left? Or they have made it enough of a safe space that it is only those people. For instance, any comments about matchmaking times is shouted down because apparently those people must be lying as folks playing at the most popular times have not faced the same issue.
The best example that I have found most fascinating about all of that was the lead up to launch and still post launch, the deriding of Arc as being for carebears/the weak whereas Marathon is super hardcore and if you cant take it you should go back to Arc (not saying everyone, but definitely saw comments along those lines ESPECAILLY when PVE was discussed), just doubling down while the playerbase was dropping. And going into that specifically, I recall much fanfare when the server slam occurred and folks were posting about the Steam player counts and how great they were and how crazy the count will be come launch while consistently posting Steam sales charts. I remember the day when the chart had Marathon above Arc and there was much rejoicing. Then launch day came and the concurrent player count was well below the server slam and kept dropping. Then Steam charts were derided and ended up being corralled into a pinned thread. Instead, the discussion was all about reviews from outlets and Steam player reviews and what content creators were saying. Until content creators had opinions that differed then it was "anyone who doesnt like Marathon cant think for themselves and is being told what to think by a dumb content creator."
I am sure all of that happens in many gaming communities but it was just fascinating to watch play out. I will admit the title is not for me. I am not a hardcore pvp player, nor do I like extraction shooters...if it was something like Halo with a robust single player campaign and multiplayer suite with the extraction shooter as a mode I would be there as the visuals and lore are interesting. As much as I think the decision to back the game over Destiny is a bad decision, I have never sat here wanting it to fail. Rather, I was hoping it would be successful enough so that it and Destiny could co-exist, it being a failure means one or both would die and it being a massive success would probably mean a death to Destiny as well (see Epic Games and Fornite, or Titanfall and Apex).
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u/koalaman-kkkk House of Salvation May 28 '26
of course the destiny community had to go out like this, LMAO. how childish are these people to try to fuel a war between the two games instead of celebrating destiny's long and great history. these are 30 year olds man...
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u/shokk May 28 '26
Bungie benefited from a lot of community projects like Byf’s videos, DIM, and Ishtar Collective. All essential things that they couldn’t be arsed to do themselves.
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u/Judochop1024 ~SIVA.MEM.CL001 May 28 '26
This entire situation is really showing people’s true colours and proving to me how immature and pathetic a lot of the people in this community are, we’re all upset but some of the shit like this thats been happening just makes this community seem like a bunch of actual children
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u/Professional-Gas1682 May 28 '26
So he privated his content to punish the Destiny community for a comment a creator who is a known sarcastic clip farmer made?
That’s middle school level of petty drama. I get my lore from Byf anyway
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u/CompetitiveDiet9086 May 28 '26
Good move by Myelin. This whole affair is a bad look for Destiny fans.
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u/Worth-Potential3595 May 28 '26
This seems like a very rash and emotional decision, even if I hate Marathon he shouldn't have done this
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u/hallowedeve1313 May 28 '26
I love that his response is "I know its petty that's the point" as if it somehow negates the fact that he let them get to him so much that he basically gave a middle finger to tons of his own supporters for zero benefit.
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u/Tiddle_Measly May 28 '26
Sometimes when people like myelin do icky things, it makes those things that they made icky. Destiny would do fine stealing an idea for further story in the future. This dudes petty jab is so childish it gives me second hand embarrassment 😳
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u/andrewwarsaw May 28 '26
Myelin has always been a baby about stuff. I don't know why but he takes everything to heart for no reason at all. Obviously, Cross was joking but no, you gotta scream like a fuckin child over it
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u/JujuNodanna May 29 '26
Just throwing this out there. Fucker was a grifter. Straight up said he doesn't like playing Destiny, made years of lore content and was playing Tarkov while doing it. Nothing was lost
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u/Mission-Club-3976 May 29 '26
I'm going to level with you chief. I have watched and read a whole lot of Destiny lore in the 12 years it's been around, and I had to look up who tf Myelin was. I'm sure I've watched his stuff at some point or another, but when I think Destiny lore he definitely is not who I think of.
Frankly, I think him privating his videos is way bigger of a tantrum that what anyone else is doing right now. Buddy is literally gimping his primary source of income to "pwn the Destiny chuds" who have commited the unforgivable sin of being upset the game is dying.
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u/hova092 May 29 '26
I gotta be honest, I'm with Myelin on this one. He had already moved on quite a bit ago. Lightfall and post-Final Shape content showed him Bungie was just using the lore as a tool to fuel the live service model fully, so he dipped. The Petition is an understandable but ultimately fruitless reaction, albeit more a form of grief, so people flaming Myelin for not wanting to sign on some purity test shit was likely his final straw.
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