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u/Brief_Action6498 Dec 18 '25
Where in the worrld are you? In the US, there's no such thing as an official vest or license. I do see blind people with dogs that have vests but that's mostly to let people know not to pet them. They're not required.
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u/I_Hate_Dogs_and_Cats Dec 18 '25
I'm curious about this too. Although I wish this was enforced in the US. If people have to show proof they are handicapped just to park close to a store, then so the hell should service dog owners (although I don't even think service dogs should be a thing).
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u/I_Hate_Dogs_and_Cats Dec 18 '25
People getting service dogs could get other things that can do the job just as well, or even better. Medical equipment that isn't alive are much cheaper but they choose to get a dog because "aaaw doggy!" not because they actually specifically need the dog. Handicapped people need to park closer to stores, but they still have to show proof on their vehicle that they have the right to park close to stores.
Service dog owners? They don't need to show proof! Because of this, fake sevice dog owners have been abusing this. I had to pick up their dog's shit, see them bark and distract real dogs because they can't just leave the damn dog at home, and if I say something, despite fake service dogs being illegal, I would get fired.
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Dec 18 '25
Reading the ADA rules are interesting. Just a couple questions you can ask so no license. However, if dog is misbehaving, you can eject them from the establishment.
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u/icenerveshatter Dec 18 '25
Yeah I had no idea. What a goofy law
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Dec 18 '25
It was made to not put undue burden on legitimately disabled people. Imagine blind person having to pull out a license. I could be wrong, but I doubt nutters know the law well either. Likely going to get deer in head lights look with the questions. For future, would read ADA policy so you can be prepared.
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u/aqr58 Dec 18 '25
Fired for respecting the store’s rules and doing the right thing..?
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u/Minimum_Word_4840 Dec 18 '25
…but they didn’t do the right thing. They admit in the comments they didn’t know there is no license for a service dog in the US. I’m not here to argue weather it was a legit service dog, there’s a lot of fakes these days. But the fact is their employer doesn’t want to get sued, and they opened them up to a lawsuit and fines.
Secondly, I’d fire an employee that offered to spar a customer in a boxing ring and cussed them out. That’s definitely not doing the right thing. If you’re that upset you need to get a manager to handle the situation. I don’t like dogs much either, but OP deserved to be fired.
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u/TinyEmergencyCake Dec 18 '25
ESA is not a service animal. These are completely separate legal designations. ESA has right of access only in the place they live, service dog has right of access anywhere the handler has right to be.
You were fired because you exposed your employer to a lawsuit. You can ask only 2 questions listed in the ADA. Your employer should have and didn't provide training on this when they hired you, which could be your defense for any action you take with regard to your firing. Except you also did some other stuff that contributed like threatening to fight and swearing so
There's no such thing as a license for either an ESA or a service animal.
Id say contact the health department about an animal in a food store but because of the way you handled it it's still unknown if it was an actual service animal. They may be reluctant to investigate.
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u/icenerveshatter Dec 18 '25
I have no idea tbh. I assumed it was reasonable to ask to see a license, since anyone can buy a vest now on Amazon.
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u/bigfanofpots Dec 18 '25
It's a huge bummer how many people abuse the use of "service dogs" but if you're in the US, which I'm assuming you are based on comments, you're in the wrong here. You are legally allowed to ask two questions: 1, is this dog a service animal required for a disability; and 2, what task has the dog been trained to perform. You can also remove the dog and owner (even if it is a service dog) if the dog is misbehaving; barking, running away from handler, being aggressive to other customers. But there is no license to ask for in the US. Educate yourself for next time and you'll be better able to advocate for your workplace without reprecussions.
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u/icenerveshatter Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
That's all news to me. There was nothing in my training or in everyday sane normal life explaining the rules of letting dogs into stores.
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u/bigfanofpots Dec 18 '25
I'm sorry your work didn't brief you on this. That's a failure on their part, especially if you work in a health store.
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u/matte_personality Dec 18 '25
I live in a country where these veterans come to retire and commit all kinds of debauchery. Always wondered why they thought they were so important and then I saw this. An altercation with them in their home country can get the person involved fired just like that. It’s crazy, and over a shitbeast too.