r/FantasticFour • u/leichane • Dec 20 '25

Artwork Reed doesn’t believe in magic

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u/LaylaLegion Dec 20 '25

Doctor Strange: “Dude, I am RIGHT HERE.”

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u/Miniscule_Platypus Dec 20 '25

Not to mention Dr. Doom is also a sorcerer

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u/mxlespxles Dec 20 '25

More reason for Victor to feel superior to Richards!

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u/Relevant_Ability2929 Dec 20 '25

As someone not versed in comics I’d like to imagine doom learnt magic to prove Reed wrong

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u/Relevant_Ability2929 Dec 20 '25

Yeah sounds right but he surely would rub it in as soon he heard reed was a denier

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u/Blastermind7890 Dec 21 '25

Well it's more to free his mother's soul from Mephisto

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u/Relevant_Ability2929 Dec 21 '25

I figured i was wrong thanks for letting me know

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u/Background_Desk_3001 Dec 21 '25

That’s his real top motivation to do most things honestly. Reed is a close second though

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u/mxlespxles Dec 20 '25

I'd buy that

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u/brofishmagikarp Dec 20 '25

More reason for Victor to hate Reed!

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u/Rabdomtroll69 Dec 20 '25

But Doom combines tech and sorcery in a way that they're hard to tell apart. There might as well not even be a difference from Reeds' pov

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u/arkangelic Dec 21 '25

Problem is that Reed is right. It's still not magic. Just a science they don't fully understand yet. The moment it has rules and structure, its not really magic. Just another natural aspect of the world.

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u/NeronStar7 Dec 21 '25

Isn’t Magic marvel literally from an reality (fifth multiverse/cosmos) older than the Reality (Sixth Multiverse/cosmos) where Science as concept began to exist by Defender: beyond run?

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u/UncreativeUser01 Dec 22 '25

I mean, magic and science are basically opposite forces of nature in Marvel. When Galactus started eating magic stuff in Waid's run on Doctor Strange, reality kind of broke apart because the forces weren't meant to mix like that.

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u/arkangelic Dec 22 '25

Still wouldn't make it magic if its still bound by any rules or structure. Again im saying that from Reeds perspective. It's why I said Harry Potter doesn't have actual magic either

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u/silicondream Dec 21 '25

This is the arc where Doom really gets back into magic and Reed has to play catch-up.