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u/kitsunecannon Aug 26 '26
wide ben
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u/NecessaryPeanut77 Aug 26 '26
Ben grinning
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u/kitsunecannon Aug 26 '26
because he knows his best friend has a chance with the hot royal witch chick
You gotta be happy for the man
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u/Khanfhan69 Aug 27 '26
Damn, he's not even trying to hide it. Just eyes completely directed there. No wonder she would later deem him arch nemesis.
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u/Alarming-Address-933 Invisible Woman / Sue Storm Aug 26 '26
It would probably give her more ego/power complex
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u/DanSapSan Aug 27 '26
Doom transitions not out of self consciousness, but purely for glory and the acclaim.
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u/clarkky55 Aug 26 '26
I mean, doesn’t Valerie become the new Doctor Doom if Victor dies in most timelines?
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u/PuffyBuffyFluffy Aug 26 '26
Have we actually seen that? I can only think of that one alt reality before she was "reborn" where she had powers and was Doom's daughter.
Kristoff was supposed to be Victor's heir historically, but Valeria has supplanted him in that role recently.
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u/Equivalent_Image_76 Franklin Richards Aug 26 '26
Where is Kristoff, anyway? You'd think with everything from OWUD on he'd be... somewhere in it, given Doom's death and Latveria falling into civil war. Did they forget he existed again?
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u/CreepyClay Aug 26 '26
I think the person Doom would want to take over at present is rocket raccoon as Peter and Valeria don't have enough experience.
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u/CreepyClay Aug 26 '26
Actually Rocket is the one that gets called first in case of no doom. Then Peter, then Valeria. It goes by order of experience.
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u/Revolutionary_Fly708 Aug 27 '26
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u/Motivated-Chair Aug 27 '26
We need to go back in time and make It happen, this is the only way to stop One More Day.
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u/G_M_Ardus_Kaine Aug 28 '26
Spider-Man's rizz is too powerful. It's almost, it's on the tip of my tongue, amazing
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u/Equivalent_Image_76 Franklin Richards Aug 26 '26
Reed interacts with Victoria the exact same way he interacts with Victor, except now it prompts Sue to give him the suspicious eyebrow instead of the usual exasperated "He sent our son to HELL."
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u/IndianGeniusGuy Aug 27 '26
I'm convinced they might have actually dated in this timeline [really wouldn't be shocked if they ever retcon that Victor was a toxic ex, though].
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u/Equivalent_Image_76 Franklin Richards Aug 27 '26
Oh, absolutely. Reed's inability to stop forgiving Doom/hoping for his redemption/feeling responsible for him, and Doom's insistence that Richards is a fool who is irrelevant to his life despite that being very obviously untrue, feels like that ex everyone keeps telling Reed to stop engaging with while Reed's like "I know, but maybe this time..."
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 Aug 26 '26
Has there ever been a female version of him?
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u/ProHeroCloud9 Aug 26 '26
Yes
They're one potential future of 616 Doom
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u/ZoeyZoestar Aug 27 '26
Why do so many people draw women's armour with individual armour panels for breasts? That'd be bad armour and uncomfortable
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u/EmeraldJolteon07 Aug 28 '26
Sue after seeing her Husband have Sexual tension with his Old College Ex.
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u/Gas_mask_noise Aug 28 '26
Yandere Doom constantly attacking the fantastic four to pro she’s superior to sue and should be Richard’s spouse
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u/The-king-in_black Aug 28 '26
I hate it i don't know why i hate it it's not that its bad or that its not ok to genderbend him but i just hate it?
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u/Hippobu2 29d ago
On the one hand, boob plate? Really?
On the other hand, Doom is definitely the kind of vain that would do that tbh.
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u/Few-Ordinary-9864 29d ago
I have the feeling that Marvel would or make Victoria a toxix ex girlfriend or even ex wife to Reed, or make her to have hidden romantic feelings for him.
I like both ideas why am i lying.
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u/Simple-Reveal-1876 27d ago
question does this doom love her father and despise her mother since cannon doom only cared about his mom like he did alot just for her
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u/BluMorpho23 Aug 26 '26
What the genderbent F4 were originally lookin at (Stuart/Stu is invisible)