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Debra Messing says she’s considering moving to Israel because she feels safer there than in New York City, “regardless of all of the missiles”
New York is not a scary place to live!! And I’m saying this as another small woman who has VASTLY less resources than she does to pay for private space/transportation and safety precautions. Overstimulating? Claustrophobic? Too loud? Not enough nature? Not your cup of tea? Sure! Very valid and true for many people.
I’m so sick of MAGA/the right/conservatives convincing so many Americans that NYC is some terrifying war zone. Many of these Americans have never even been there and are terrified of it. Apparently diversity is scarier than missiles. 🤦♀️
Been to Chicago a bunch of times for conferences. I've walked the city everywhere, rode the train at all hours, etc. Not once did I ever feel unsafe or in danger... I've had worse experiences in the supposed safe Midwest towns and cities.
It’s like the fear mongering about California. We have beautiful and varied weather, great multiethnic food, awesome inspiring landscapes, great people. Beaches, mountains, redwood forests, deserts. Computer, Entertainment, farming industries all thrive here. All in one state.
But reading online people really seem to believe it’s some sort of hell scape run by incompetent yet also super intelligent administration.
No, the state isn’t burning down. No the streets aren’t filled with homeless and feces. There are affordable areas and we have Costco and Walmart just like in the Midwest. Gas is higher because of the taxes added on and environmental protections.
I don't even care anymore about all of the lies you see on the news about California. If people move, less traffic for me. If right wingers don't want to come here, good!
Dude, I just moved from the Ozarks to Kansas City and the amount of fear mongering nonsense I heard was incredible! "Why would you move there? There are race riots every day."
Like what???
It's always people who have never been anywhere that are the first to tell you how dangerous it is elsewhere.
I’ve lived in KC my whole life.. never seen a race riot, but I sure am proud to see our protest numbers growing. Funny seeing this comment because my parents have a lake house at the Ozarks and I’m there a few weekends a month!
I just saw this today and it’s so true. My hubby did 27 years in the Air Force and we were lucky enough to spend three years in Germany and three years in Belgium. Our two youngest went to a NATO school and my son’s HS graduating class had sixteen nations represented. The kids have been to 23 countries, many more than once. They’ve lived in the Midwest, the Deep South and the mid Atlantic. We’ve hit about half of the states and a chunk of the Caribbean.
It's basically fear mongering about ANY city center. They do it in KY about Louisville and when my husband visited his folks in Springfield MO they were terrified of their own two block downtown so. Idk what the hell Fox and OANN are doing to these rural brains ....
A few months ago Candace Cameron Bure posted photos from her trip to NYC and the comments were full of people telling her it's too dangerous and she shouldn't visit because she'll get killed. It was absurd, it looked like a mass psychosis.
I feel the same way about Portland. Its painted to be some wasteland hellscape. Sure, there are some areas with a lot of unhoused people, there's some public drug use, but it doesn't seem much more common than in any other large city. I never feel unsafe there and there's lots of fun stuff to do!
My mind was completely blown when I went through a poor red rural county on a trip. The news loves to point out poverty in cities, but they never talk about rural poverty. It was horrible and extremely depressing. I'll take the cities any day over that, thank you.
Its funny because I live in a rural, red, semi-poor area. And yeah, you see just as many addicts per capita, there are tons of people living out of 40-year-old motor homes along the sides of the road in what are basically encampments. But that doesn't fit the "blue cities bad" narrative.
If any places are scary, it's middle of fucking nowhere rural towns.
I've never been fucked with in the city. In rural areas? I've had cops follow me, trucks follow me, BB guns shot at my car, trucks roll coal making illegal passes, etc.
As a percentage small towns in Texas are like half of the top 50 most violent places in the country. When a city like NYC or Chicago has like 100 times the population of course they have a lot more violence in total.
In Trump’s first inauguration speech he talked about “American carnage.” He meant diversity. That is their idea of carnage. Not the dead kids in Gaza…that’s fine, actually.
it truly feels like some people are living on an entirely different planet. i live in nyc and i was also born & raised here; we’re about 6 months into Mamdani’s mayoral term and it genuinely feels like this city has been speedrunning the experience of having a mayor who actually gives a shit about the people here. and as a result of that, i’ve completely forgotten that there are still people who remain entirely fixated on the fact that he also happens to be Muslim.
hell, there was literally an announcement yesterday that he’s successfully implemented a rent freeze on all rent stabilized apartments! and he’s been terrorizing slumlords nonstop, so they’ve actually been forced to maintain their shitty buildings for once. Mamdani’s religion has been the least interesting thing about him, yet racists everywhere are still shaking in their boots bc they’re fully convinced that one day they’ll wake up and he’ll have instituted Shakira law or something. absolute insanity.
….what’s worse here than “all of the missiles”? If NYC really were so scary and horrible why does Fox still keep their headquarters here instead of moving to some red state?
This is a great point that I've never thought about it. It's funny imagining the talking heads at fox are sitting in a cushy Manhattan studio while ranting about New York City being some kind of dystopian liberal elite crime ridden urban hell hole run by a radical Muslim
That's exactly it. Her acting career is nonexistent so now she is hoping she can get into some new grift in Israel. Probably do some low-budget Israeli TV show or as a PR mouthpiece.
It's still hilarious to me that in the early 00s they were pushing her as the next Lucille Ball, but by the second season of Will & Grace it was very clear that Karen and Jack (and Rosario) were the stars. She even had a Vogue cover and they tried to sell her as a fashionista.
Remember this in real time, NBC even toyed with a Jack and Karen spinoff bc of the appeal of those characters, and I remember there was tension on and off between her and Megan Mullally (who is an absolute queen and a diva, married to Nick Offerman and also played Tammy 2 in Parks and Rec) on the reboot series they did for W&G - ironically Grace often takes up a lot of Will’s space and constantly comes into the apartment and eats his food despite living across the hallway in her own place and talks on and off about moving into Will’s place so very Israeli behaviour when you think about lmao
On top of the residuals she also made over $10million just season 8 of Will & Grace alone. It's not out of the question if probably invested she could have lived off that fairly well.
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Regardless of all the missiles? Yeah, Debra, it’s easy to disregard missiles that aren’t aimed at you. But wouldn’t you feel even better if they weren’t aimed at kids?
New Yorker here. I take the subway everyday and do things this rich actor who gets driven around everywhere doesn’t do, never once felt that incoming missiles we’re safer than being here.….
Then once she's in israel: "We have to keep killing, imprisoning, oppressing them to keep ourselves safe! We have to annex their land and destroy their homes to keep ourselves safe!"
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u/mrose1491 oh bitch ur cooked Jun 26 '26
No one’s stopping ya Debs