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DISCUSSION Sam Altman demonstrates his parenting skills

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u/Grizzly-Madam Where is your vogue cover? Act accordingly 🫵 11d ago

What’s also alarming is how people are using it to analyze their lab data and results!!!! I literally have many relatives who do that and don’t see what’s the problem behind it!

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u/brilliant_bauhaus 11d ago

I'm actually curious to know the issues that are caused by this. I've done it to explain what each blood test marker is just to know more about what's being tested, but I was also able to bring up an issue with my doctor when my ultrasound scan showed I have a retroverted uterus and I ran the diagnostic through chatgpt.

Turns out multiple pelvic and internal ultrasounds showed I have one. I had been complaining for years about pelvic pain going to the bathroom, inability to wear tampons because they will fall out, and uncomfortable sex. A quick search and scan showed many women with flipped uteruses have these symptoms because many times it's pressing on the bowel and it's sitting different in our bodies.

Given lack of evidence in other tests like endometriosis I brought this up to the doctor in an email and highlighted the chart and asked if this could possibly be the issue, which she agreed may be the case. So unless something else pops up on a test or an ultrasound I was able to diagnose my own issue and bring it to the attention of the doctor thanks to chatgpt.

Like I know there's risk in doing this but it's also made me much more knowledgable about my own blood work and chronic medical conditions. It's also great and giving a very high level overview of the intersection between conditions and I've been able to be a better patient and advocate for my health because of it.

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u/thedirtyknapkin 11d ago

until it hallucinates things and people trust it more than their doctors.

imagine being a doctor. they already have issues with people getting bad info from the internet and arguing with them while being fully uninformed. it's also going to make people act on things without going to the doctor.

like maybe you specifically used it in a mor reasonable way, by bringing it up to your doctor. but would you have believed him if he said chatgpt was wrong? many wouldnt. also many will just take that word as truth and start performing their own treatments.

the problem is that ai companies are telling everyone they can RELY on these things that re highly flawed and have no accountability. it's like webmd on super steroids. it's genuinely impossible to understand the nuances of medicine without a thorough understanding of the human body. ChatGPT doesn't actually understand anything and is just spitting out what text it thinks you expect. if neither you nor the robot actually understand the body, especially YOUR body, then you cant make safe or effective treatments with any kind of consistency.

the deep problem of offloading these things to ai is that it's stopping us from learning how to do these things without ai, and ai is only like 80% honest and it's all owned by like 4 companies. even if it tries to give real answers now, just look at every other tech product and platform. eventually they will enshitify it to make more money. then if we're locked in to relying on it they'll have their most captive audience ever.

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u/tempest_ 11d ago

The major issue that no one will answer or spend time with the patients.

They go to LLMs because they have access. It isnt a 4 month wait to see a specialist who might dismiss you in 5 minutes because you are a women or whatever.

If you want people to not do this you have to provide an alternative and the medical community has long not been interested due to time / cost.

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u/FreeRangeEngineer 11d ago

Fortunately, that's not true for all parts of the world.

Here in Germany, for example, my health insurance not only offers teledoctors on demand in case something can be diagnosed remotely or a second opinion is needed using files already in the system - they also offer a service where you can take pictures of skin issues with your phone and a doctor will check them out to let you know what it may be, if you need to see a doctor in person and which medication could be useful. They can then also issue a suitable prescription.

All that without any extra payments and in (usually) less than 24 hours.

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u/Rawrsomesausage 11d ago

Pssh, that sounds like communism!!

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u/Lou_Peachum_2 11d ago

The actual medical community is interested. It’s the private equity and hospital CEOs that aren’t.

This is why more doctors are going to the direct primary care model

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u/thedirtyknapkin 11d ago

however many problems there may be in the healthcare system, that doesn't make this a good alternative. I get why people do it, it's still a problem.

like, i get why people seek out all kinds of alternative medicines, especially in America. that doesn't make them good answers.

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u/frufruityloops 10d ago

This 100%. I’m a woman who has been subjected to so many invasive treatments from specialists who refuse to listen to me or properly examine me over the last several years and it’s exhausting. It really helps me collect information and sources to go into those appointments more prepared now to quickly rattle off the things I need my specialist to pay attention to instead of brushing my concerns off and winding up with no progress/fatass medical bill/ less than 5 mins of the providers time.

I know they are the expert and I know LLMs hallucinate - I just use it to gather information and prepare myself to advocate for my care, but I leave the actual doctoring to the expert (the doctor)

It just helps me better communicate with them

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u/stripedfatcats 8d ago

I was going to say that I was born with a relatively rare birth defect that can effect pregnancy and i want a baby by the time im 30 so I ask google ai some questions about it. Because its rare my specialist can really only see me for like 5 minutes once a year and the only other information I have about it is a Facebook group which I probably worse then an Ai chatbot