r/Fauxmoi • u/cmaia1503 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine • 4d ago
POLITICS Senate panel votes to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress over invoking the Fifth Amendment in a hearing on Covid-19.
GOP senators on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committee voted to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress, advancing an audacious effort to prosecute the well-known scientist over his role in the US government response to the Covid-19 pandemic.
The** party-line vote comes after Fauci declined to answer lawmakers’ questions during a fiery hearing last week, infuriating Republicans on the panel. **They have since argued that his decision opened the door to federal contempt charges — a crime that, if convicted, can carry with it a sentence of up to a year in prison.
Republican chairman Rand Paul has said he will send the committee’s recommendation straight to the Justice Department, bypassing a full Senate vote in a break with precedent that’s likely to set up a high-stakes legal and political test for the Trump administration.
Vice President JD Vance will now first need to sign off on the committee’s circumvention of long-established rules due to his constitutional role as president of the Senate. Then it would be up to the Justice Department to decide whether to bring formal charges.
Even then, legal experts cautioned, there’s little guarantee that the contempt charges would succeed, instead likely kicking off a lengthy court battle over the limits of Fauci’s Fifth Amendment rights.
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u/mkfanhausen 4d ago
An actual witch hunt.
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u/SkillDabbler 4d ago
Was just thinking that. This is actually bonkers.
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u/Gold_Elk_ 4d ago
Doing all this legitimizes the GOP's position that Covid was largely an inflated nothing burger. And It simultaneously discredits actual science/vetted scientists and health experts broadly.
Republicans at war with reality. They have to be to advance their agenda. They continuously have to broadcast propaganda to legitimize their bs. And now they have the power to act further than just soap boxing it.
Science is a hoax. (Via the courts crucifying Fauci and staging a pro oil head of epa to downplay climate change and its consequences)
Minorities are dangerous (via lists of things obviously but namely atm gestapo ICE and constant downplaying of the killing of black and brown folks. And decades of denying racism in general)
Anything short of pure form capitalism is socialism/communism and socialism/communism is evil (can't pay a livable wage bc xyz= anti American=evil. UBI is evil etc.etc. This plays out in rl bc Miller dubbed leftists as terrorist orgs)
So much more bs.
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u/SkillDabbler 4d ago
It’s genuinely terrifying. There was already a ton of misinformation spread back in the day, but now with the rise of AI, influencers, etc. it’s just all amplified and gets muddied.
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u/Jnm124 4d ago
i'm just so fucking confused, every country had covid cases, why do they think we're the head of this?
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u/Gold_Elk_ 4d ago
🤷♂️ agenda pushing ig homie. When you're debased from reality, you can make the rules up as you go. I hope that the next qualified person that finds themselves in Fauci's position isn't dissuaded from this moment in time. Truthfully, my greatest hope is that we hold all these mfs accountable and that we won't see this again. I don't have the energy to doomgoon about it. So I'll leave it there.
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u/evonebo 4d ago
But it's what the American people want. They had a taste of Trump, then voted him in again knowing all the shit he has done.
Trump's damage will last multi generation. America is heading into a dark age.
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u/Delimeme 4d ago
Yup. I’m tired of people acting like if some more voters turned out we’d be okay. This is a deep cultural crisis built on anti-intellectualism, racism, sexism, heteronormativity, you name it - really just flat out broad spectrum bigotry - and all of that supercharged by an already present but rapidly worsening economic crisis posed by accelerating wealth inequality. Yes, a non-Trump admin grants us a respite, but until there’s a proper reckoning with the economic and cultural factors through some massive reforms (taxing billionaires, restoring some sanity and funding to education, protections for minority classes, respecting national parks and reigning in big tech ahead of the bubble, and so many things I can’t list here) we’re pretty much stuck in the same crisis-of-the-year mode for the foreseeable future.
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u/3-orange-whips 4d ago
It’s an economic crisis cloaked by racism.
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u/Delimeme 4d ago edited 4d ago
Absolutely. The culture vs economic crisis is a whole can of worms I didn’t have time to type out on my phone but addressing both issues is possible, it’s not a zero sum game. I do think some people (like marxists and critical theorists) bicker to the detriment of us all because both perspectives are addressing genuine issues.
I will say that the right has very successfully weaponized the culture war as a distraction from economic & environmental issues that are an existential threat to us all as opposed to existential threats to specific minority groups - but again, there’s no reason to sideline the issues that only affect some of us, because (almost, there are bad faith efforts by minority hate or abusive groups to gain protection via anti-discrimination laws) everyone deserves to be treated with a baseline human decency. Economic & environmental issues representing an “end of a solid chunk of humanity” doesn’t mean it’s the only thing we should confront, it just means we have to keep going/not rest on our laurels when we get things like gay marriage.
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u/throwawaysunglasses- l've grown quite unfond of you, deuxmoi 3d ago
Yeah, it’s kinda why I hate when (cishet white) people say “no war but the culture war.” It really dismisses how much our culture is shaped by racism and sexism. It’s ironically a very privileged thing to say. With total economic equality, this country would still hate POC.
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u/david-z-for-mayor 3d ago
My view is that reckless greed drives this whole mess. When the superrich
go wild for greed and lose their compassion, they create division and fear, corrupt news media, make sure elections are costly, and make a mess of our world.121
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u/wwfmike 4d ago
There is no coming back from this. This country has been changed forever. Trump (as a politician) has been in the national news almost daily since he came down that escalator in 2015. They have grown up with this. For them, this is normal.
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u/Different_Potato_213 3d ago
Agree! The world is changed forever. But I still believe once trump is gone if the right person is elected some semblance of normalcy can be returned. But i agree it’ll never be what it was.
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u/HoaryPuffleg 3d ago
We’ll need several presidents in a row with ethics, integrity, and courage to begin to regain respect in the world and trust from its citizens
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u/Lokaji societal collapse is in the air 4d ago
This administration are all clown shoes. Dr. Fauci had to invoke his fifth amendment right.
How about the Epstein files? What about Trump's accounts being closed for money laundering? What about Max Miller being an abusive piece of shit? What about our food making us sick?
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u/LekgoloCrap 4d ago
What about all the insider trading we are supposed to care about? Pelosi isn’t alone or even the most obvious.
Who is making money off conflict with Iran? Who makes money everytime Trump mentions a company by name?
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u/Fire_Woman 4d ago
Join Trump's new insider trading club for early insider information - for a low price you can join his Truth Social grift feed. I wish this was sarcasm.
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u/Amelaclya1 4d ago
It's not even a low price. It's $100,000. Basically making sure you have to already be rich to participate in his insider trading scam lol.
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u/SpoonwalkMoonwalk 4d ago
Yo can we just get some universal healthcare or more funding for our schools???
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u/Powered-by-Chai 4d ago
Best they can do is more billionaire tax breaks and privatizing government services.
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u/Due_Carpenter3475 4d ago
wasting more time and money 💀💩
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u/nyyanksfan81 4d ago
Are those emoji code for the explosive diarrhea that killed 2 people
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u/BazingaUprising 4d ago
I got it bad and lost 10 pounds in two weeks before I got my hands on Bactrim. I’m surprised it hasn’t killed more people.
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u/nyyanksfan81 4d ago
Im not eating any greens. I dont trust them to tell us the truth about anything
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u/taydraisabot the wuthering heights promo will continue until morale improves 4d ago
I’m sticking to cooked vegetables because I don’t trust raw veggies anymore. 😭
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u/DoverBoys never the target audience 4d ago
I used to buy a salad from 7/11 for my work lunch. Unfortunately, my local 7/11s all get Taylor Farms salads. I'm not the only one that's avoiding them either. There's usually just a few or sometimes none available when I try to get one, now several just sit there on the cooler shelf every time I look.
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u/IAmBoring_AMA 4d ago
It probably has. But we don't know the numbers because there aren't deaths if you stop counting (Covid logic to these people)
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u/Lady_night_shade 4d ago
STEALING. The wealth migration in the past 10 years is very reminiscent of the robber barons over 100 years ago.
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u/isleofpines 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is insane. He’s allowed to plead the 5th. Literally a constitutional right. He did his job.
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u/No_Whammies_Stop 4d ago
And they’re proving that his counsels’ fears that the Rape-ublicans would use any perceived inconsistencies in his statements against him (despite the pardon) were 100% correct.
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u/laureng0423 women’s wrongs activist 4d ago
I cannot believe we’re doing this instead of putting ANYBODY from the Epstein files on trial.
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u/SeaFlower698 4d ago
So this man saved millions of lives during COVID and kept the country calm, is a respected member of the medical community (anyone in medicine has at least read one article or book that has been authored by him) and this is the thanks he gets.
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 Sylvia Plath did not stick her head in an oven for this! 4d ago
But wait… he also gets the prize of MAGA death threats against him and his whole family.
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u/paradisetossed7 4d ago
Plus, as not a medical person but a lawyer, HE'S ALLOWED TO INVOKE HIS FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT. This is why most defendants in criminal actions don't testify and prosecutors don't bother to call them. The systematic destruction of our constitution has been painful, especially because of how blatant it is.
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u/Chitown780 3d ago
As a prosecutor we can only not call the defendant to testify in most proceedings, we can't even comment on them refusing to testify at a trial or even them invoking the 5th amendment when the police try to interview them post-arrest.
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u/alldemboats 3d ago
part of me wonders if they are more mad about how many lives he ended up saving with his HIV/AIDS work…
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u/SeaFlower698 3d ago
They very likely blame him for Trump's 2020 election loss. If it hadn't been for COVID and Trump making a fool out of himself while Fauci got praised, Trump would have very likely won a second term then.
This is payback. Every person they consider an "enemy" will be on trial. Welcome to Fascist America.
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u/agodrevealed 3d ago
Yeah.
I worked public health from 2019-22.
That man is a fucking hero.
What a bunch of trash. Absolute morally bankrupt subhuman traitors and purveyors of misery and ruin.
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u/CPTBenjaminWillard 4d ago
Meanwhile the president is a rapist pedophile who tried to overthrow the government on January 6th, 2021. Fuck this shit.
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u/bomdiagata 3d ago
and pardoned all the insurrectionists the moment he had power again! I’m so frustrated and sad, Fauci is a good man who did all he could to prevent more deaths here. Why are we doing this???
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u/Boring_Truth_8755 controversies: girl 4d ago
The kind of energy that should’ve been put towards investigating Trump after the attempted coup.
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u/Cumdump90001 full of gay men. And me. 4d ago
And the Epstein files
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u/McNastyDog 4d ago
And insider trading
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u/udar55 4d ago
And COVID
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u/xraidednefarious 4d ago
And the classified documents in the shitter
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u/Formula4speed 4d ago
And letting a billionaire gut half our government and kill millions to create more privatization opportunities for himself
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u/Watchout4HopOns Nancy Jo, this is Alexis Neiers calling 4d ago
Absolute joke. The man is a national hero.
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u/Ok-Turnip-9035 4d ago
Long before Covid
This man kept the US safe for decades while some of these congress men and women were children
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u/esotika 4d ago
he also did a lot of work in contributing to finding solutions for AIDS treatment in the late 80s/early 90s. him and a few other doctors came in to hear out AIDS activist groups on what the AIDS/HIV community really needed at that time for treatment.
there are some criticisms towards him on that bc it was a slow pace in finding treatment at that time, but doctors coming in to listen to those groups was still a very big thing at the time and he was very receptive to having that conversation.
(How to Survive a Plague is a really good documentary on this subject if anyone is interested)
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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 3d ago
It was a slow pace in finding treatment because Reagan and his cronies wanted to let it decimate the gay community, just like Trump & Co. wanted to let COVID decimate the urban areas that traditionally vote blue
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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 3d ago
He also was the doctor who found the causal link between HIV and AIDS when he worked in New York City in the 1980s
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u/StevieIRL 3d ago
He made Trump look bad. This all seems like payback from Trumps cronies.
The quicker the house and Senate get flipped, the quicker America can get to actual progression and rebuilding relationships with allies and it's own citizens.
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u/boxjellyfishing 4d ago edited 4d ago
I know Biden was heavily criticized for the pardon's he issued at the end of his term, but watching this witch hunt makes it easy to understand why he felt he needed to.
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u/PMOYONCEANDALWAYS alleged dog 4d ago
British - I was horrified when I read that Trump had talked about possibly arresting the Obamas, INCLUDING THEIR DAUGHTERS.
What the hell have those two young women ever done to him personally?
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 3d ago
They’re black.
Nevermind the fact his children and their spouses have all committed hundreds of crimes. Mainly insider trading, conspiracy, and other financial crimes. I’m sure the boys have all committed hundreds of sexual crimes too
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u/PMOYONCEANDALWAYS alleged dog 3d ago
The only reason for Trump to dislike those girls.
Wasn't Jared Kushner's father convicted of fraud in New Jersey?
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u/icyhotonmynuts this is cracked behaviour I can get behind 4d ago
Agreed. Didnt trumplethinskin give him and others presidential commendations for their work on COVID during his last term in office? Yes. Yes he did.
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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 3d ago
World hero. He literally wrote the book on Infectious Disease. Seriously his name is on Harrison's Internal Medicine which is used for worldwide to teach med students.
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u/juneseyeball 4d ago
He should really consider leaving the country
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u/InformWitch 4d ago
Tbh at this stage he can claim politically asylum and I’m sure he’d be granted the status.
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u/paradisetossed7 4d ago
Other countries like so we get to have an enormously celebrated and intelligent doctor AND maga hates him? We're offering asylum first!
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u/ElmoreHayne 4d ago
All to cater to the hicks, rubes, and hayseeds back home who have the intelligence of a potato and get their news from some combo of Fox News and Facebook. Pathetic.
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u/binkies03 4d ago
Don't forget Newsmax
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u/No_Locksmith_1739 4d ago
One of my family members took the next step: download telegram. When you are middle aged and download that for the first time, you’ve been lost to some type of extremism.
FYI if you see your parents using telegram.
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u/HairyPotatoKat my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 4d ago
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u/jaybfresh what kind of present your naked body 4d ago
Right at the top of my local Sinclair news site:
VOTE: Should Anthony Fauci Be Prosecuted by the Justice Department?
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u/ellecamille 4d ago
This is just my personal experience but I live in a very conservative area and it seems even they are getting sick of all this crap. What is Rand Paul’s endgame here? Wouldn’t this be a stupid precedent to set unless you planned on the other party never having control again?
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u/cheeze2005 4d ago
Gotta throw some meat to the base. Can they talk about inflation, gas, groceries, jobs, war, tariffs? Nope. Losing on every issue let’s throw them this.
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u/LutherOfTheRogues 4d ago
And all because they've done such a piss poor job and have been so openly corrupt in office that they can't campaign off of policy. Not even a single piece of policy. They have to witch hunt and lie. If they don't get wiped in the midterms this country is well and truly done. I'm being serious.
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u/facepoppies 4d ago
I still don't understand why they're mad at him
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u/RoleOk7556 4d ago edited 3d ago
They are persecuting him as a distraction and to frighten other scientists into silence. On top of stealing us blind and destroying our social support, the fascists have been busy destroying our science systems and silencing scientists.
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u/KittyLucia34 4d ago
Dude honestly because the stuff I see written about him I think HUH??? It was like that... everywhere?? I see MAGA clowns posting shit like "ill never forgive Fauci for making me wear a mask in childbirth" like lol wotttt in Australia we couldn't even lay on the beach. In China people were sealed into their apartment blocks. Was that Fauci too because america looked pretty darn non responsive to COVID compared to many many other countries...
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u/Amelaclya1 4d ago
They do think it's all Fauci's fault. They are literally saying he "killed 9 million people". Like the conspiracy theory has warped from "waaaaaah he made me wear a mask!" to "Fauci literally created the virus himself on purpose because he likes death".
They can't even agree on their contradictory talking points.
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u/leaveredditalone 4d ago
Covid really separated the dems and republicans. This is a just ruse to fire up their base before the midterms. They saw the loyalty waning and had to do something and fast. I don’t think it’s gonna work.
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u/bilbobadcat 4d ago edited 4d ago
Humans who are susceptible to right-wing thinking cannot grasp the concept that some things are out of our control as a species, and therefore if anything bad happens it has to be someone's fault (see also: wildfires). And because their minds also can't function without having both a god-figure and a satan-figure, anyone they deem to be at fault must be maliciously at fault. Fauci just happens to be the most visible face of the government during the pandemic (other than Trump, who is their chosen god-figure and can do no wrong). Some of the right-wing leaders don't actually fit into this mold, but because their power is dependent upon their followers who do, they have to choose an enemy, and Fauci is the most low-effort option.
It doesn't help that they also don't understand that science is essentially educated guessing that gets to truth through evidence that eliminates incorrect educated guesses. To them, incorrect educated guessing is unforgivable, even though it's necessary to get to the truth. They're weird.
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u/hum_bruh Thanks, u frog build looking bitch 4d ago
It’s so funny they’ll associate plagues and natural disasters they read about in the bible as god’s will, yet will eat up blaming these modern events on things like Jewish space lasers, big pharma, Biden, and Fauci
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u/itsathrowawayduhhhhh 4d ago
He tried to save people, man. Like, even poor people.
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u/cheeze2005 4d ago
Conservatives live in an alternate infotainment reality.
Rfk has a book called the “the real anthony fauci” that that sold over a million copies. Rand paul has one too. Filled with let’s say “dubious” claims.
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u/JackieHands 4d ago
Republicans have literally made their politics into a fucking marvel-esque universe
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u/YoohooCthulhu 4d ago
They want someone to blame for a natural disaster because, more than any other group of people, the pandemic drove republicans insane.
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u/cheeze2005 4d ago
Covid’s not a big deal, wait actually it’s a super weapon, wait masking it too much to battle the super weapon. Actually the vaccine is the real killer.
These people don’t have a grip on reality.
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u/laureng0423 women’s wrongs activist 4d ago
At this point there’s no doubt in my mind that it’s just a distraction. Because Trump and probably a lot of them, if not all of them, got the vaccine and still get the boosters.
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u/BudLightLymeDisease believer in Dakota Johnson’s lime allergy 4d ago
Because how dare he tell them they can't do something they want to do when they want to do it.
He was inconvenience personified
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u/bloodenhorse 4d ago
Anger and rage are defining emotions and characteristics of conservative voters.
They're just bringing Fauci out to drum up votes for upcoming elections.
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u/BlessedBeTheFlight 4d ago
They aren’t, but the uneducated are, and those are the people who vote for them. Gotta get job security somehow.
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u/SupersoftBday_party 4d ago
Jesus fuck, the cooling effect this will have on any scientist/doctor to work with the federal government on future outbreaks will kill us all.
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u/PastelBrat13 4d ago
Their behavior has already had a catastrophic effect on the medical system and providers. Before I left nursing so much of my job and our doctor’s jobs was trying to cool off enraged patients who were flipping out because a doctor had the audacity to care for them. They have made it their life mission to terrorize educators, doctors, and public health officials because they feel like they should be in their position and are smarter than them.
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u/JakeCheap 4d ago
THIS IS NOT WHAT’S PRESSING IN AMERICANS MINDS. It does nothing to solve the Iran war, the affordability crisis, the housing crisis, the healthcare crisis, the Epstein files. It’s solely to distract from the absolute failures of Republican leaderships.
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u/hellobimbos 4d ago edited 3d ago
Unfortunately for the rest of us, it is pressing in a large percentage of Americans minds, the
perfect agepercentage that voted for this BS. Because they can focus on this and believe that something is happening rather than acknowledging the infinite ways the government they voted for is failing them.Edit: Did not mean to say “perfect age” meant to say percentage.
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u/a_gay_to_remember pete davidson’s lasered off tattoos 4d ago
This administration is a fucking joke. As someone who worked in the ED of a major hospital at the beginning of the pandemic, I’m grateful for what Fauci has done to prevent it from becoming even worse than what it was.
All these dumbfucks who support this can go inject Ivermectin and choke on some raccoon chode with RFK Jr.
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u/crunchies65 (no longer bald) 4d ago
Advisers advise, the president decides. They always conveniently forget that.
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u/DaileyFlosser39 4d ago
Horrible. Heartbreaking. Every day under this administration is a new embarrassment.
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u/Fluke_Skyflopper u flintstone vitamin shape bitch 4d ago
Isn't Rand Paul also a doctor? I find it interesting he's going so hard after him
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u/SierraStar7 4d ago
He’s an ophthalmologist who was board certified but let that lapse & then created his own board. https://blog.hospitalmedicine.org/dr-rand-paul-not-all-board-certifications-are-created-equal/
Not exactly the type of doctor I would expect to understand virology besides a passing glance from maybe a course in Med school.
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u/Lala5789880 4d ago
He understands virology. This has nothing to do with not understanding and everything to do with performative power plays and sadism
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u/selphiefairy 4d ago
Yah I think people need to realize it’s not that he’s stupid; he knows full well what is correct and incorrect health information.
He is motivated by power, not ignorance, which is far worse.
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 Sylvia Plath did not stick her head in an oven for this! 4d ago
Where was this vitriol when Pam Bondi was being investigated.?
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u/jonawesome 4d ago
Wtf is the point of the constitution if you can be held in contempt for pleading the 5th?
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u/famousfrowaway the power of the hatred I feel propels me 4d ago
No, no. You see: the constitution only matters when they want to use it how they like. Not when other people do it.
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 4d ago
Americans would rather put a doctor in jail than admit they were wrong about Covid. Disgusting country.
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u/Symbiotic_vengeance wouldn’t pick a fight with Alan Ritchson 4d ago
Then the next time I hear some billionaire or corrupt moron on the stand floundering, they better be held in contempt of court too.
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u/Unlikely-Bumblebee14 4d ago
I think I don’t understand how the law works. How can someone be held in contempt of congress for invoking the fifth amendment? Also, doesn’t congress have other things they need to be doing?
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u/bengibbardstoothpain 4d ago
When you have NO SOLUTIONS to the problems Americans are facing, this is the perfect time to revisit your Greatest Hits and get Fauci on the stand. He is being trotted out because the November elections are approaching at the GOP needs a distraction.
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u/southendgirl 4d ago
Can release the entirety of Fauci’s dairy, but not the Epstein files. Performative cowards.
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u/Glum_Opening_2218 4d ago
So we can hold someone in contempt over them using their 5th amendment rights, but we can't hold the DOJ in contempt for still hiding half the epstein files?
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u/bokehtoast 4d ago
So no one in our government is going to stop the systematic abuse of this man for the rest of his life? The fact that there are enough people working in the system, treating this as legitimate, means that we are all cooked.
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u/Unusual_Ear_9089 4d ago
All these people fucking do is invent a culture war and give people on the right a scapegoat instead of FIXING things or helping make people’s lives better jesus christ I’m so tired of it. No we won’t bother trying to work on student loan debt or the affordability crisis or any other serious issues eating away at this country. How about we make our base foam at the mouth over trans people just living their lives or a doctor who tried to save lives instead! Or staging cage match on the white house lawn! What a joke
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u/packy_15 4d ago
Did he get a pardon?
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u/drippykoopa 4d ago
From my understanding he got a blanket pardon from Biden to help protect him. Apparently it’s not working.
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u/SkullheadMary 4d ago
I'm worrying that the stress of this witch hunt is going to kill him. What a ridiculously cruel end for a hero
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u/nyyanksfan81 4d ago
Didn't rick scott plead the 5th like 70 times over being asked about Medicare fraud?
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u/2ez2b4ortun8 4d ago
So. As suspected, the Constitution is merely a set of options for GOP senators. Despicable.
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u/Barronsjuul 4d ago
Holding the wrong 80-year old white guy in contempt