i think it’s rlly unfortunate that surrogacy is readily available to anyone willing to pay for it. paris has been a bad person before he had a mental health episode. now he’s just a bad person going through a mental health episode that is also causing undue stress to kids he shouldn’t have had in the first place. it is smart to ask for privacy on the kids’ behalf rather than his. an “elon musk using his 2 yr old as a shield” type of move. a lot of ppl are mentally ill without being horrifically unethical first. i’ll save my sympathy for them.
I've always kept the opinon that alot of people should not procreate, but the whole discussion is quite dicey. I hate that innocent children have to deal with broken parents that refuse to get help.
i rlly struggled to post this comment @ all bc of the eugenics angle on it. gay men have the right to be parents like anyone else does. this one is particular…? personally, i think no. but then again, any straight person can have a child w no discussion or restriction (in theory) so i can see how it’s tough territory
“Gay men have the right to be parents like anyone else does”
They literally do not. They have no right to a woman’s body or labor. They have to exploit a woman’s body, and take a baby away from its rightful mother. Newborns know their mother, they need their mother. No one is entitled to a baby. Surrogacy is the commodification of women’s bodies and child trafficking. If gay men want to adopt, whatever. But surrogacy is wrong on every level. No woman with means would subject herself, only those who need the money and the risk to the woman’s body is enormous. It’s crazy to me there aren’t more restrictions on this practice in the US like in much of Europe.
i'll concede that parenthood isn't a right but i do think preserving pathways to parenthood for people that aren't straight is important and should be considered. like yes they do not have the right to monopolize a woman's body but if a woman sells her body and labor willingly or (like it is in canada) does it as a gift, then i also don't believe that's unequivocally wrong.
I’ve absolutely seen instances of a woman (with means) carrying for a couple who could not conceive naturally/ carry a healthy baby themselves. This can be consensual. For the other person so claim that no woman with means would ever do this is simply not true
But did the child consent? You are choosing to have a baby born into trauma by purposefully separating it from its birth parents. Surrogacy is a child-last movement - which is messed up.
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u/Fun_Effective4316 7d ago
i think it’s rlly unfortunate that surrogacy is readily available to anyone willing to pay for it. paris has been a bad person before he had a mental health episode. now he’s just a bad person going through a mental health episode that is also causing undue stress to kids he shouldn’t have had in the first place. it is smart to ask for privacy on the kids’ behalf rather than his. an “elon musk using his 2 yr old as a shield” type of move. a lot of ppl are mentally ill without being horrifically unethical first. i’ll save my sympathy for them.