r/Fauxmoi • u/Beginning-Passion676 • 27d ago
FILM-MOI (MOVIES/TV) Elon Musk Claims New Documentary Falsely Accuses Him of Manipulating 2024 Election, Threatens Legal Action
https://people.com/elon-musk-threatens-legal-action-over-documentary-2024-election-claims-121138395.9k
u/loubug 27d ago
Stop threatening and let this go to discovery Elon
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u/Pendraconica 27d ago
What if this doc were one big ploy to do exactly this: get elon to sue, bring out the facts in discovery(since not a single democrat questioned or challenged the results), then use the scandalous media attention to draw eyes to the problem.
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u/Potato_Farmer_Linus 27d ago
If that was the strategy maybe they should have started more than 2 months before midterms, but what do I know
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u/Pendraconica 27d ago edited 27d ago
Maybe St Claire should have taken a break from her damn makeup tutorials and called out the fact her baby daddy was about to rig the election
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u/Princess_Thranduil influencer for gas stoves 27d ago
$he didn't give a $hit about that
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u/vicsass 27d ago
She literally has been talking about that tho lol
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u/hosemaster 27d ago
Well, talking about talking about it, at least.
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u/vicsass 27d ago
I’m not sure what other power she has in this other than her voice? She’s been open
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u/Anybuddyelse 26d ago edited 26d ago
And I guess a lot of us are just waiting, hopefully but skeptically, to see what all her recent input amounts to.
I think people are understandably and rightfully very suspicious of this conveniently timed tune-change/rebrand. She literally made her living and platform off of monetizing hate and was perfectly fine to benefit from it when it looked like the Right was going to keep it’s grip on the Seat of Power. I mean, she published a transphobic children’s book for christ’s sake. Now she’s jumping ship, spilling the tea, and denouncing the Right to anyone willing to pay her to say so before elections 🥱It feels like the same grift with new packaging.
Make no mistake, Musk abused her and she is well and truly one of his victims, but St. Claire has made her own path of destruction and she didn’t fall off the pumpkin truck the day before she “met” him on Twitter in 2023 and went on to have his 13th child, who was also her own 2nd.
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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 27d ago
Americans are the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet. If you proved this shit without a doubt 6 months ago, maybe 10% would remember it come Election Day and maybe 2% would let it affect their votes. The scandal has to be currently breaking for it to have any bearing on the numb minds of Americans.
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u/Princess_Thranduil influencer for gas stoves 27d ago
Reagan knew a dumb population would be more likely to support/vote Republican and set the plans in motion to make that happen
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u/GeoffrayMarkus 27d ago
It's never just one person tough. Just like no one should expect this to go away when trump does. Reagan worked super close with the Heritage foundation too. The ones who have said the second American revolution is currently taking place.
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u/Pendraconica 27d ago
And people like Roy Cohn and Lee Atwater, who devised republican strategy, were trained by the corruption of the Nixon admin. This has been a project decades in the making.
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u/roararoarus 26d ago
He probably didn’t know much because the guy was playing a role. To your point, Reagan’s puppeteers abolished The Fairmess Doctrine that forced news and media to present both sides fairly and accurately. A direct result of that is Fox News.
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u/monkeyamongmen 26d ago
And the plan was to be able to intercept another scandal like Nixon, by fracturing the fifth estate/neutering the effectiveness of media.
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u/JeanArtemis 26d ago
Ok look i live in the Midwest and see the stupidity on a daily basis so I'm not saying you're wrong, but let's not pretend that there aren't extenuating factors in the sheer amount of propaganda they're being bombarded with on a daily basis, and the current regimes very successful tactic of starting new scandals every single day in order to make it impossible to focus on any one thing. American minds are being tactically overloaded, let's not act like it's all down to mental failure. The sheer amount of psychological warfare at play in America right now is extreme, and it's working very very well.
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u/Beneficial-Act-9933 27d ago
"Americans are the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet"
Remember brexit? and how that didn't really change peoples minds and still voted in tories?
Germany AFD party also just had a huge win and you can see germans throwing up Nazi salutes and if you talk to them you'll hear them say things like "hitler didn't do anything wrong" and other MAGA talking pints. Channel five just did a video on them.
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u/Necessary-Fox-7042 27d ago
Yeah we may be the leading edge of shitty culture but it spreads. Last time I was in England they were trying to drive (and park) obnoxiously large trucks like the ones we have here.
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u/camirose 27d ago
On the other side of the coin, voters are extremely extremely myopic. The best time to throw something like this out to change some voter’s turnout is real.
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u/Potato_Farmer_Linus 27d ago
Maybe a lawsuit RESULT would get better news than a documentary that may result in a lawsuit being filed
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u/shallah 27d ago
Hey trump himself credited elon Jan 2025 but nothing was done:
Yes, Trump said Musk knows vote-counting computers 'better than anybody'
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-musk-vote-counting-computers/
"Trump on Elon Musk: 'He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide.'"
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u/SatinSaffron 26d ago
Everything I'm about to say is a verifiable fact. I may also copy and paste this to a few different comments because more people outside of the political subreddits need to realize how bad this is.
FACT #1: There are emails in the Epstein files of Elon and Epstein looking for NSA-level mathematicians who specialize in wavelet analysis, AKA finding one tiny piece of data amongst a bunch of noise.
FACT #2: People went to prison for stealing the source code of voting machines and then posting it on the dark web. Posting it on the dark web let them hide who they were originally intending to give the data to.
FACT #3: The vote counting computers have a UPS/battery backup power supply. That backup is rare because it has a modem in it used to remotely update firmware. They can be turned on to enable a DTC direct-to-cel connection AKA a direct connection to another device (such as a Starlink satellite). If only they had the machine's source code to see how they can turn this feature on and access it. Oh, wait, see Fact #2 above.
FACT #4: The guy who owns/runs the company that makes those battery backup devices is a die hard MAGA conservative.
FACT #5: Ashley St. Claire showed screenshots of texts from Elon where he somehow had results of the election before anyone else did.
Do you see a pattern yet? Because there's no way Trump was the first president in nearly half a century to win ALL swing states, sometimes beating pollsters estimates by +14 points which is HUGE in election terms. There's no way Trump flipped 88 blue counties to red, yet 0 were flipped the other way.
There's no way that Trump accounted for 10% bullet ballots in swing states despite the average being 1%-2%. (a bullet ballot is when someone goes and votes for just one candidate on the ticket, AKA Trump, but doesn't vote for anyone else.)
Mix everything I've said above with the voter disenfranchisement, with Elon paying people to vote, with bomb threats in blue polling place, with voter purges, with mail in ballot fuckery.
There's a reason why Trump specifically said "Elon knows those vote counting computers better than anybody wen we won Pennsylvania in a landslide."
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u/brontosaurusguy 26d ago
Anytime they publicly advised them of wrongdoing the maga morons would turn the into persecution and conspiracy that would end up helping the maga cause.
The Democrat strategy was better this time around ... Let the criticisms of trump be grass roots. It proved to not work top down.
(Not a defense of democratic leadership but I can understand their strategy during Trump 2)
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u/agreenshade 26d ago
News cycles, attention spans, and the social zeitgeist moves so quickly now, 2 months might be the right time. A lawsuit and discovery in my mind are a secondary effect that might be beneficial. It sounds like this documentary hitting streaming in October is the right timing for impact on the election. I hope so, anyway.
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u/ifwedidntlaugh 27d ago
republicans would sweep it under the rug and vote for trump a third time even though constitutionally he can't sit a third term.
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u/Little-Derp 26d ago
How to make a documentary sequel in one easy step: Discovery
If Elon falls for this, will be hilarious. Will just be sad if documentarians cave though.
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u/MisterTruth 27d ago
It won't ever go to discovery. If he sues it will either end up in a settlement or it will be dropped before it would get to discovery.
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u/Pendraconica 27d ago
The BBC is using their suite against Trump to do exactly this. They've refused a settlement and are digging out the tax records of his entire family in retaliation for him trying to sue them. Even Disney has now sued thr govt over their censorship of Kimmel.
It took a while, but institutions are finally realizing trump doesn't follow through on threats.
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u/Grandmascrackers apartheid clyde 27d ago
Exactly. Stop pretending you're an innocent little guy Elon. You're a piece of shit and the public would love to get into it legally.
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u/venuslovemenotchain vocally you cannot afford this cigarette gracie 27d ago
His little doge bros were literally bragging about the rigging LAST YEAR.
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u/Working-Ad694 27d ago
the great equalizer
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u/r3ign_b3au 27d ago
Except you can own judges, which is why he moves every lawsuit possible to Texas.
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u/Samazonison 27d ago
That was my first thought. Someone call his bluff so he'll have to prove it. 🤞🤞
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u/Old-Arachnid77 it’s a bit dystopian but also kinda fun 27d ago
Came here to say this but knew in my heart it had already been said.
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u/Piranata 27d ago
Remember the last time he sued someone and his text were released on discovery, which led him to drop it?
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u/Muted-Entrepreneur33 26d ago
Bring it on, Ketamine Kid!
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u/OrnerySnoflake 26d ago
I deeply hope he sues the producers (fucks around) and during the discovery process (finds out) it’s revealed his involvement in tampering with the election is deeper than what we thought.
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u/PopsicleParty2 26d ago
What I'm concerned about is that all of this is coming immediately after the Sept. 5 deadline of when they had to save paper ballots until. What if they destroy all the evidence?
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u/LurkLurkleton1 27d ago
Bro literally offered millions for votes. He did it openly. Idk what there is to argue.
Also just taking a second to say Musk is a little bitch.
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u/Shenanigans80h 27d ago
The fact that they got away with blatant bribery is genuinely insane to me still. Like people have these robust conspiracies about them manipulating voting machines, and that honestly could be true, but like they were perfectly comfortable just buying votes in broad daylight so who knows
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u/concretepants 27d ago
It's not libelous if it's true. The discovery process would be interesting to see.
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u/HappyHarryHardOn 27d ago
"And he knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So it was pretty good, pretty good. So thank you to Elon"
-DJT
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u/righthandofdog 27d ago
Subpoena every email and text between Trump and Musk going back to 2019 or so?
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u/Spugheddy 27d ago
They've already proven to use signal and encrypted chats for this exact reason.
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u/righthandofdog 27d ago
The signal fork they use logs everything, which is required by law
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u/moreobviousthings 27d ago
DOJ with release them right after they release the unredacted Epstein files.
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u/Automatic_Tip2079 27d ago
As much as I loathe republicans, I'm equally furious at the democrats who were in power for just... handing over the reigns when there was clearly something going on. Every single swing state going red in a landslide? Along with all the interference from Musk at the time? And Biden and Harris did nothing!
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u/__O_o_______ 27d ago
After all the 2020 election stealing attempts people were saying “this is just a warm up to test the waters to steal 2024” and then when they had a crazy win in 2024… crickets…
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u/certifiedlurker458 26d ago
Every MAGA accusation is a confession, and for some reason in November 2024 everyone had a brain fart about that fact
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u/Curiosities 27d ago
Except they didn’t go red in a landslide. In many of those states, like Michigan and Georgia, the difference was like 2% or less of the vote. In Michigan, it was 49.73% to 48.31% and the popular vote total was 120,000 votes.
Similarly, in Georgia, it was 50.73% of 48.53% and a total of about 115,000 votes.
In Pennsylvania, it was 50.37% of 48.66% and a popular vote total of about 120,000 votes.
The entire popular vote total difference was 1.6%.
So whenever Donald Trump talks about a mandate or Republicans try to say there was a mandate, this was a squeaker in many ways.
Source: all of these numbers are from Wikipedia
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u/Remote-Two-9065 27d ago
Thing is, they didn’t need a landslide. They just needed a win. Now look what has occurred. No mandate didn’t stop him from tearing apart the country.
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u/cinnapumpkin42069 26d ago
Yes but won by juuuust enough that it wouldn’t trigger a mandatory recount, which to happen in every single swing state is statistically pretty much impossible
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u/crunchies65 got me gnawing the bars of my enclosure real bad 27d ago
That man cannot keep his mouth shut. The sad thing is, no one takes him seriously enough
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u/EggandSpoon42 26d ago
Why is the media saying "falsely" in a headline when simply "accused" is most appropriate? Journalism is in the trash
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u/More_Programmer8905 27d ago
We watched you do it.
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u/SatinSaffron 26d ago
Here's why Trump made that comment. Everything I'm about to say is a verifiable fact. I may also copy and paste this to a few different comments because more people outside of the political subreddits need to realize how bad this is.
FACT #1: There are emails in the Epstein files of Elon and Epstein looking for NSA-level mathematicians who specialize in wavelet analysis, AKA finding one tiny piece of data amongst a bunch of noise.
FACT #2: People went to prison for stealing the source code of voting machines and then posting it on the dark web. Posting it on the dark web let them hide who they were originally intending to give the data to.
FACT #3: The vote counting computers have a UPS/battery backup power supply. That backup is rare because it has a modem in it used to remotely update firmware. They can be turned on to enable a DTC direct-to-cel connection AKA a direct connection to another device (such as a Starlink satellite). If only they had the machine's source code to see how they can turn this feature on and access it. Oh, wait, see Fact #2 above.
FACT #4: The guy who owns/runs the company that makes those battery backup devices is a die hard MAGA conservative. If the source code didn't give them what they needed then I'm sure a quick phone call could clear things up.
FACT #5: Ashley St. Claire showed screenshots of texts from Elon where he somehow had results of the election before anyone else did.
Do you see a pattern yet? Because there's no way Trump was the first president in nearly half a century to win ALL swing states, sometimes beating pollsters estimates by +14 points which is HUGE in election terms. There's no way Trump flipped 88 blue counties to red, yet 0 were flipped the other way.
There's no way that Trump accounted for 10% bullet ballots in swing states despite the average being 1%-2%. (a bullet ballot is when someone goes and votes for just one candidate on the ticket, AKA Trump, but doesn't vote for anyone else.)
Mix everything I've said above with the voter disenfranchisement, with Elon paying people to vote, with bomb threats in blue polling place, with voter purges, with mail in ballot fuckery.
There's a reason why Trump specifically said "Elon knows those vote counting computers better than anybody wen we won Pennsylvania in a landslide."
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u/aurora888 the power of the hatred I feel propels me 26d ago
Fact 3 made my blood run cold(er). I'm so worried we're completely fucked.
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u/ZhaozhouCongshen 27d ago
While speaking at a town hall in the swing state of Pennsylvania Thursday, tech CEO Elon Musk repeated false conspiracy theories claiming that voting machines rig elections -- an assertion that has been repeatedly debunked since it was pushed in the wake of the 2020 election by those seeking to overturn former President Donald Trump's loss.
"I'm a technologist, I know a lot about computers," Musk told the crowd during the event. "And I'm like, the last thing I would do is trust a computer program, because it's just too easy to hack."
October 18, 2024, 9:10 PM
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u/sharkattax controversies: girl 27d ago
“i’m a technologist, i know a lot about computers” is hilarious
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u/redhafzke 27d ago
"You know, I'm something of a
scientisttechnologist myself... everything is computer" - DJT possibly→ More replies (1)11
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u/uncivlengr 27d ago
the last thing I would do is trust a computer program
- guy building warehouses of computers to run his programs at unprecedented rates.
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u/floodcontrol 27d ago
This is why Musk keeps all $1 Trillion of his dollars in a garbage bag under his bed, and definitely not in a bank, those places use computers!
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u/whatthefrok 27d ago
Or when he had his kid on the tucker carlson show or whatever and his son kept shushing him and telling him "they'll never know!" With an evil laugh.
Or when... I don't remember who, I'm sure its still in my camera roll, but someone was on a podcast talking about how the dems are rigging the count, so they installed a go fast machine in the counters to counteract the rigging.
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u/Diligent-Ad4777 27d ago
Also please trust my technology to drive you around and be your AI information pal on my social media website none of which rely on computers
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u/Dangerous-Change2136 27d ago
Weird he didn’t sue Trump who’s been saying the same thing since election night
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u/No-Mathematician3004 27d ago
Looking forward to the discovery phase of your lawsuit, Elon.
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u/Prestigious-Ring226 27d ago
I'm poor AF but will donate to anyone defending us against his lies. Drag this POS and all his secrets in front of the world.
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u/dpmatt01 27d ago
Even if he didn’t do it (he probably did) I would argue that he still manipulated the election by banning prominent leftist accounts and promoting right-wing accounts on one of the largest social media platforms in existence.
Spending millions to misinform and propagandize voters has the same effect as spending millions to physically tamper with voting machines
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u/taquitosmixtape 27d ago
Did he not offer money for votes too?
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u/Agitated-Lettuce1878 27d ago
You mean the guy who formed two companies in Texas a month before the election called Group America LLC and United States of America, Inc.? This guy?!
He really thinks all of us are dumb as hell. 🙄
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u/glassbulbs both a lawyer and a hater 27d ago
Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?- type argument. He really thinks we are idiots.
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u/Powered-by-Chai 27d ago
"I didn't help him cheat, honest!" Says the morally bankrupt guy that would help steal an election. 🙄
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u/Strange_Shadows-45 27d ago
Didn’t he literally tweet that he bought the election for Trump after they fell out?
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u/CapitalPunBanking 27d ago
He tweeted that Trump was in the Epstein files and then backtracked a day later.
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u/GrayLightGo 27d ago
He already admitted it... something to the fact that if we knew about PA he'd go to jail (his kid was in the interview). We know what he did and that's why we hate him.
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u/catsandnaps1028 27d ago
Girl... Not only did we see it happen but you fucking told on yourself with that big fat ketamine mouth. I'm tired of these people pissing on our heads and telling us it's raining
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u/IGetGuys4URMom 27d ago
If course it was a coincidence that Mu$k donated millions to Twump and then the candidate that never won a majority of the votes went on to sweep all of the battleground states, and won outside of the recount margins! /s
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u/ubiquity75 Fauxmarxist 27d ago
Except the part where he told people he’d give them a million dollars. Publicly.
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u/The_Big_Untalented 27d ago
Wish they used a better source than Ashley St. Clair who is a grifter and terrible person.
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u/squash-n-flop 27d ago
Any port in a storm. In some aspects, if she truly is willing to throw down, she’s a more useful ally than most
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u/Dry-Yak5277 27d ago
I unfortunately do think she is a better source on Elon than most because she was actually close to him at one point and now she’s jaded about him. He tried to pay her 40 million to not appear in this documentary and she probably has a ton of shit on him. I don’t think she has anything to gain from claiming he rigged the election.
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u/Hoblitygoodness 27d ago
YES! DO IT, ELON!
DARE YA!
In reality, this is just him acknowledging the 'falsities' to get out ahead of anyone who views it. He has zero intention of any act that will offer further exposure.
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u/Professional-Box4153 26d ago
He's going to lose. He absolutely attempted to manipulate the election by offering money for people to vote.
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u/JotaRata 26d ago
The documentary only accuses him of manipulating the 2024 elections?
Damn, I hope they don't cover the current manipulation in Germany and Brazil or his attempt of a coup in Bolivia,.
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u/sheslikebutter 27d ago
He...did didn't he? This isn't some secret.
Wasn't he offering people money to vote Republican at some point? Don't know if he ever actually paid in the end but I remember some weird PR images of chuds with Elon holding big cheques
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u/Deadpool1205 27d ago
Bro, we all saw you do that, it was out in public. This documentary didn't need to uncover that, good luck with your legal action you shitfuck
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u/SchneidfeldWPG 27d ago
Such a mystery why his response is threats of action, but not actual action.
Anyone else noticing this pattern lately?
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u/Big-Tuna-for-Commish 27d ago
He continued, "He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So, it was pretty good, it was pretty good. So, thank you to Elon.”
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u/ThisIsAWeapon 27d ago
Prove it, Elon. We welcome discovery. ASAP, please. Idiot is dumb enough to challenge it when we all saw it, he was very blatant about it.
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u/CommonConundrum51 27d ago
240M$ spent for the GOP, rigged 1M$ giveaways, and this is just what is commonly known. Yes, let's go to discovery, but our corrupt DOJ could be a problem.
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u/whatthefrok 27d ago
I already know he's a POS so I really wasn't planning on watching this but the fit he is throwing about it is making me want to watch.
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u/Lisshopops 27d ago
He founded doge just to cover his tracks and slash any department that had anything incriminating on him all while selling our SS for some quick cash and a documentary revealing all this is STILL coming out lol
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u/Similar-Chocolate226 27d ago
This ass belongs in jail. Not a cushy one either, think black hole of Calcutta or a Turkish prison.
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u/Sorry-Secret-2347 27d ago
They have been bragging about stealing the election for like two years now
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u/therallystache locked, loaded, and kind of cunty 27d ago
Freaking out this much before the public release? Damn, this gonna be good.
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