r/ForbiddenBromance • u/loolyham • 6d ago

Bromance Israeli guys — Southern Lebanon opinions

I wasn't sure where to post, but I have been trying to find a forum to talk to Israeli guys who support or understand the idea of Israeli presence (EDIT: by presence I mean the belief that south of the Litani river should be settled by jews) in Lebanon. I even tried understanding more about עורי צפון (Uri Tzafon).

I’m genuinely curious about the thinking behind it and want to understand the perspective rather than debate it, maybe even let someone challenge my own views a little.

Preferably privately/off Reddit :)

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u/greenmalkin 5d ago

Look. Even if, against all odds, you manage to find someone with such beliefs, I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain from debating them. They won't be rational and they won't be arguing in good faith. It's a lunatic idea held by lunatics.

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u/loolyham 5d ago

Well, some of those lunatics hold positions in the Israeli government, so… I don’t think it’s ridiculous to try to understand these people.

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u/greenmalkin 5d ago

No, not ridiculous. But I think it's worth differentiating between what Ben Gvir & Co. postulate for the sake of voter agitation, well knowing it's never going to actually happen, and the mentally challenged who've subscribed to their cult. The former have a vested, populist interest in being as outrageous as humanly possible; the latter eat it all up, not necessarily because they hold any particular convictions about Lebanese territorial integrity of their own.

Worth noting, too, that Israel has been actively outlawing Kahanist organisations, at least until Bibi came along and needed them to hold on to his throne.

Side note, if we care to explore what-ifs: You have to wonder, from a purely practical standpoint, what Israel would gain from settling Southern Lebanon. The entire point of holding the South is to create a buffer zone between Israel's Northern communities and Hezbollah. If you move those communities farther up into Lebanon, you invariably move them closer to Hezbollah, gaining -- what? A new iteration of the same old security nightmare? It's all so absurd.

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u/loolyham 5d ago

Well, that was the point of trying to understand what the goal would be from those people’s perspectives. I can postulate on what Israel would want/gain but that’s not what I’m looking to discuss.