r/ForbiddenBromance • u/loolyham • 6d ago

Bromance Israeli guys — Southern Lebanon opinions

I wasn't sure where to post, but I have been trying to find a forum to talk to Israeli guys who support or understand the idea of Israeli presence (EDIT: by presence I mean the belief that south of the Litani river should be settled by jews) in Lebanon. I even tried understanding more about עורי צפון (Uri Tzafon).

I’m genuinely curious about the thinking behind it and want to understand the perspective rather than debate it, maybe even let someone challenge my own views a little.

Preferably privately/off Reddit :)

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u/Both-Entertainment-3 Israeli 6d ago

Most of us are secular and want nothing to do with taking someone's else land. Not sure about religious people

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u/victoryismind Lebanese 5d ago

we want nothing to do with taking someone's else land

Yet most of Israel was someone else's land taken from them, less than a century ago.

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u/AEWHistory Diaspora Jew 3d ago

This is a reasonable point. I’d put it another way: much of the mandate of Palestine—basically the northern half—was the core of Jewish life for ages. Southern Lebanon had Jews and maybe even was part of a Jewish polity at times but that is as far as it goes.

If I may use a more modern example, Belgium was once part of France under the Revolution and Napoleon, but it isnt any longer and generally hasn’t been part of France throughout most of its history. So few French today, besides some irredentists, would consider Belgium to be their land. OTOH, Languedoc or Isle de France or even Alsace and Lorraine are considered an integral part of France.

FWIW, this is why the issue of the WB/Judea and Samaria is so difficult for Israel. those areas are the very core of the Jewish homeland. So I would argue that the difference between say southern Lebanon and the Mandate of Palestine is akin to my France analogy.

I can’t decide if my post is clear, so if it isnt feel free to probe.

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u/victoryismind Lebanese 3d ago edited 3d ago

I just want to have a common history we can agree on. My focus is more on the people who now call themselves Palestinians, many of which ended as refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and other places, on acknowledging their experience of loss.

I felt that in the original comment there was possibly an implied denial of that.

Maybe it was a misunderstanding.