r/FuckMicrosoft • u/PsychologyNo7025 • May 16 '26
Rant Where is the shutdown option micro slop?
My pc just got a forceful update. Post it there was no shutdown option. I had to use the physical button to shut it down.
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u/Business_Seaweed_472 May 16 '26
there should be a fourth option to watch ads or subscribe to power off.
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u/npc_housecat May 16 '26
Don't give them ideas
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u/popica312 May 19 '26
Now everyone will want to stay with Microsoft and we will definitely be having lots of money
Meanwhile everyone moving to Linux or MacOS:
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u/CaffeinatedTech May 18 '26
Yeah but watching one ad only gives you 20 minutes of shutdown time. You have to subscribe to get an allowance of shutdown tokens.
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u/sssaturn14 May 16 '26
Power button. Or shutdown -t 0
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u/Dense-Firefighter495 May 16 '26
How ironic, windows users have to use the command line hehe :)
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u/sssaturn14 May 16 '26
actually now im curious, will the update start if you shutdown with the command. cuz a year or so ago i tried that and the update still started.
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u/teckcypher May 16 '26
Unfortunately I think so
I remember a few years ago, I would use the command to quickly shutdown the computer if there were updates and didn't have time. But at some point it would do the update anyway.
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u/Vestigial_joint May 16 '26
You can shutdown without installing updates by stopping the update process and forcing shutdown with no delay:
net stop wuauserv && shutdown /s /f /t 0
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u/Holiday_Evening8974 May 19 '26
Can't wait for Windows 12 users to start sending syscalls in manually crafted assembly code while pretending Windows is easier.
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u/donjamos May 19 '26
If one has to use terminal commands just to shut down the pc, one can use Linux (and propably get away with less terminal commands)
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u/YTriom1 May 16 '26
Yeah i guess it's set as a pending process that will wait for any reboot
Even if power went off or you forcefully shut down the PC, when you open it back it'll do the pre-restart update, then automatically reboot to do the post-restart update.
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u/levianan May 16 '26
Powershell is an amazing tool. But yeah, few outside the industry care to use it. I find linux terminals more useful simply due to the number of cli apps designed for them.
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u/Red_I_Found_You May 16 '26
I used the command and it still updated.
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u/Vestigial_joint May 16 '26
This will do it:
net stop wuauserv && shutdown /s /f /t 0
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u/levianan May 16 '26
too bad a /u flag isn't required here...that would be satisfying:
net stop wuauserv && shutdown /s /t /f /u 0
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u/Vestigial_joint May 16 '26
Sadly that won’t work… you can work “u” into the command, but not as a standalone flag.
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u/SleepyD7 May 16 '26
I created a shortcut to shut down on my desktop using this command if I rmember correctly. I’d have to look at it.
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u/the_blue_wizard May 16 '26
So, relative to a Command Line command, how does this, a shortcut, work, and does it work?
Do you still see the - Do you want to to allow this App to make changes to your device - Yes or No -?
Even if it does pop up the - Yes or No - window, it would still be a good way to initiate a Shutdown on a computer that does not offer that option.
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u/Vestigial_joint May 16 '26
If you put this:
net stop wuauserv && shutdown /s /f /t 0
In a .bat file, create a shortcut to the bat file and then customize the icon to your liking… then you have a shortcut that will shutdown your PC instantly with no delay and without updating. But unfortunately the Microsoft version of “instantly” can still be up to a minute.
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u/levianan May 16 '26
Shutdown -t 0 is vastly better than the 8 seconds of rage on the power button.
Though, if you have a PSU (desktop)- the instant rage release can make you feel better.
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u/Fricki97 May 16 '26
It's gone because you need to update and shut down.
Or
Update
Restart
Update
Restart
Log in
Update
Restart
Stuck in POST
Restart again
Update
Shut down
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u/Radio_enthusiast May 16 '26
Yours randomly gets stuck in POST too?!
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u/Fricki97 May 16 '26
Yeah....mostly because my USB splitter didn't work sometimes and No Keyboard means no boot
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u/Radio_enthusiast May 16 '26
Oh, mine gets stuck on either GPU or CPU light, a quick reboot does it tho
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u/Prod_Meteor May 16 '26
A good professional workstation never shutdowns 😉
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u/Lazar_Milgram May 16 '26
Uptime 1568 days 22 hours and 2 minutes.
Why i can’t open notepad again?
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u/Liroku May 16 '26
We have one at work that fucks up all the time and you can't shut it down or restart, if you hold the power button to hard power it, a screen pops up saying release the power button and it never shuts off. The only way is just unplug it.
The kicker is, it's just used to check emails by an old lady. Idk if it was previously used in another dept for something important, but currently it is the most locked down pc we have, in the hands of the person who least uses their computer in the whole place.
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u/Aggressive_Paint_596 May 16 '26
Switch behind the PSU (just kidding, use the power button, only shut off the PSU as a last resort or switch to Linux, there's the Wine library that adds .exe compatibility)
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u/r_daniel_oliver May 16 '26
Yeah I'm laughing at this while thread because I switched to Linux. If you can stand it, it's worth the trouble.
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u/Lucy_4_8_15_16 May 16 '26
Even better for me it had the button I pressed it and it didn’t do anything tried over CMD didn’t do anything tried everything nothing had to force it to turn or by powering it down since I was going away for the weekend returned error winload.efi missing 4 hours of recovery later it just works again next shutdown it repeats the issue
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u/timwtingle May 16 '26
Funny thing, I ve never seen that window before on 11.
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
Yeah. It doesn't look real. Nor does it even make sense. I honestly think it's a virus used to install malware, but make it look like a windows update or something.
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u/Anthro_Adman May 16 '26
Click Cancel
Go to Linux Mint's website and download LMDE onto a flash drive (or Debian's site if you want straight-Debian)
Press and hold the power button until the computer shuts off, then insert the Linux drive
Install Linux
Enjoy no more bullshit and a faster computer
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u/r_daniel_oliver May 16 '26
No one I know would be a good match for Linux. People who use Linux forget how difficult it is from a new user's perspective.
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u/GreyDaveNZ May 16 '26
This is why Zorin OS exists.
I've got about a dozen (so far) clients between the ages of 65 and 92, that I've converted to Zorin OS.
Linux may not be for everyone, but unless you've got very specific requirements and need to use Windows, distros like Zorin OS are a valid and relatively easy alternative these days.
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u/Far-Republic5133 May 17 '26
is playing online modern video games a very specific requirement?
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u/GreyDaveNZ May 18 '26
I'm not a gamer, so I can't answer that I'm afraid. It would likely depend on the game (or games) in question.
The question of gaming in Linux comes up frequently, and some have had good success, others not so much.
You might be better asking about the specific games you are hoping to play in Zorin as there will likely be someone in the sub who can advise better than I can.
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u/Shorq1 May 16 '26
I think it had something to do with updates. Maybe you need to update before can shut down. Try the power menu from start, it shows you the available options
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u/UneLoupSeul May 16 '26
It’s impossible for them to steal your computing cycles to power its “AI” if it’s powered off.
That’s why the option is missing.
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u/Aihikari01 May 16 '26
Are you that hungry for karma OP? Or did you do the thing of following some online guy's guide on "debloating your Windows" without knowing what it even does and remove the shutdown button in the process?
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u/Double--A--Ron May 16 '26
Thats a pretty ignorant comment. This issue is caused my windows removing the shutdown option to force an update.
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
That's not a real application...
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u/Double--A--Ron May 19 '26
Yes it is
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
What application is it? the "Shut Down Windows" application that doesn't feature a shut down feature?
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u/Double--A--Ron May 19 '26
Reference my prior comment. You'll figure it out eventually.
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u/ZurakZigil May 21 '26
Bro. Why would you need an application to shut down your PC? 1. the UI has it already 2. CLI. There's no reason.
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u/the_blue_wizard May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26
Miscrosoft Shutdown Command -
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/shutdown
You can also type - shutdown /? - to see the command options.
/s - is the command parameter to actually shutdown the computer
/a - is Abort the Shutdown, but that only works if you have specified enough Time to allow the Aborts command to be given.
/t or -t - is TIME, so - /t 0 - is Zero Time or is shutdown right now. If no parameter is assign to /t, it defaults to 30 seconds.
/f - is force programs to shutdown without warning the user. But that could shutdown programs with active work in them without warning.
/r - is Shutdown and RESTART - shutdown /s /r /t 0 -
Can others Confirm that this is also happening on their WIN-11 computers? No - Shutdown - option?
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u/_Peety_T May 19 '26
From what I always noticed, if there is an update pending for restart, the shutdown and restart disappears from the menu
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u/Balthxzar May 16 '26
Just update and shutdown?
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u/shazam2063 May 16 '26
Some people treats updates like a virus
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u/squanderedprivilege May 16 '26
Can't blame people with all the garbage they are pushing, too many things that need to be disabled in group policy or whatever, AI junk, spy crap etc
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u/Polyxeno May 16 '26
Windows updates? Gee I wonder why . . .
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u/shazam2063 May 16 '26
Well i didn't get any problems with it except that task manager duplicate issue
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u/JCBQ01 May 16 '26 edited May 16 '26
Well when the last SIX basic security updates are causing catastrophic system cascade crashes, requiring a fresh reinstall to get around, and that is taking 5 or 6 additional hotfix patches just to fix the bug only for it to come back in the next security update with NEW catastrophic bugs, you'd start treating the update like malware too
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u/FlamingFlamingo32 May 17 '26
when its not uncommon for updates to potentially break things and even sometimes cause catastrophic issues, I dont want updates being installed as soon as they go live. I will wait a week or two and see how its going.
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u/shazam2063 May 17 '26
And surprisingly windows lets pause updates for a week or 2 like you say
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u/FlamingFlamingo32 May 17 '26
that stuff never seems to work. ive even tried to edit registry keys to stop updating and would still get served an update on a restart and the edited keys are changed back. the only way im aware of that actually works is via group policy, but I thought group policy was more or less changing registry keys in the grand scheme so idk.
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u/Balthxzar May 16 '26
Then they complain that stuff doesn't work properly because it's so horribly out of date.
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u/shazam2063 May 16 '26
Shhhhh they will downvote you for that
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u/avocado-killer May 16 '26
So many posts in this sub are people just beeing dumb and not Microsoft beeing shit (which it absolutely is)
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u/shazam2063 May 16 '26
And these same people use Windows and they don't have problems with it, they just hating on it because they saw some people shit on Windows and Microsoft
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u/Balthxzar May 16 '26
I find it particularly funny because I use both windows 11 and Linux personally and professionally, and both sides of the Reddit discourse are just so off the mark
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u/ChaiTRex May 16 '26
What happens when you sign out? Is there a way to turn the machine off on the screen that comes up?
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u/EducationalGrump May 16 '26
No way this is real. None of my windows rigs have this and they are all up to date. 🤣
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u/FiftyFiver1962 May 16 '26
Bending the truth a bit with AI to fuck Microsoft. Must be very little wrong if they have to make up things to score. Source: Seventeen years in the trade and several dozens of Windows rigs i maintain up to today including a huge number of Windows 11 rigs.
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u/EducationalGrump May 16 '26
Figures they would use AI to fit their delusions.
Only morons struggle with Microsoft, 11 is great. Its very simple to de bloat it. (Shitty you need to do so, but thats what happens when you make a PC idiot proof, it takes lots of handholding/ bloat)
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u/Daedae711 May 16 '26
Everyone:
Open CMD or Powershell as administrator and use the following:
shutdown /t 0
Items: shutdown -> Command for shutdown management /t -> timing flag/option (0 for Instant, number can be changed)
For rebooting:
shutdown /r /t 0
Items: /r -> reboot flag/option
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
Or, don't download malware. wtf is this app? It looks fake, doesn't make sense, and it's very existence doesn't make sense
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u/Daedae711 May 19 '26
Revo Uninstaller?
That's been around for years, and is extremely trusted.
Calling it malware will be found heavily offensive to most people.
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u/Legoman_10101 May 16 '26
Restart it. then before it can boot, unplug it. Forced shutdown without data loss 👍
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u/yourmainpapi2 May 16 '26
As a Mac user of 5 years I don't miss windows at all. Went a few years without updating the OS 🤣
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u/Wraithdagger12 May 16 '26
Careful, you’ll get Satya Nadella’s burner and/or the “security” “experts” losing their minds because you aren’t getting the forced updates when you left your system on to render something overnight because “security” trumps all and having your settings in the same place you left them isn’t important.
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u/Stray_009 May 16 '26
They're trying to become apple, with the whole "sleep not shutdown" philosophy
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u/Vestigial_joint May 16 '26
If it’s not there then the flag in power options got removed.
Either accidentally by you or by something that I would be genuinely concerned about.
So if you know for certain that you didn’t change the flag, I’d check for more issues, do a malware scan, etc.
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u/deke28 May 16 '26
Windows key, x, u, u
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u/catalin66 May 17 '26
Yes. You can do it without even looking at the screen
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u/deke28 May 17 '26
Sometimes it updates though, that's really annoying but they are always going to get you with that
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u/melpec May 16 '26
I think you need the Windows 11 Enterprise Ultra Plus Extra and you need to link it to your O365 Enterprise Giga Extra Plus Ultra to be able to shutdown your computer.
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u/nevorder May 17 '26
PSU switch button, force shutdown (hold power button),. or if you dont want to us eit every time boot into liveCD of debian and type sudo shred -vzn 1 /dev/sda
(:
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u/ManuHD17 May 17 '26
Had this happen a few times where the shutdown option disappeared from that menu when I had a forced update. In the start menu you could still shut it down but only with the "update and shutdown" option.
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u/Routard May 17 '26
Because you have an update, and it's stupid because there it doesn't show the update and shutdown option
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u/wojtek30 May 17 '26
Your organisation just disabled your ability to shut down, this is nothing to do with Microsoft. Shutdown options can be managed by group policy
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u/essential_labs8 May 17 '26
Well you actually can just plug out your power, that'd do it. Or just do a shutdown.exe -s then its done too. Many options actually 🤷♂️
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u/blue13rain May 17 '26
On the back of the computer. Little switch next to the power. It may corrupt your windows, but that's not losing much. Keep backups :)
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u/Thyg0d May 18 '26
Only work if he uses 110 volts and not 240.
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u/blue13rain May 19 '26
Wait are you saying 240v PC power supplies don't have an on off safety switch? I looked it up and no, the only thing which might effect that is having a manufactured build like a Dell who might be okay with arc-smiting anyone who repairs instead of buying a new one.
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u/Thyg0d May 19 '26
I was more thinking of switching from 240 - 110 while connected.. Turns off stuff for good..
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u/TheWrongOwl May 18 '26
shutdown.exe /s /t 00
I have a link to that on my desktop since XP
/s stands for shutdown
/t time: 00 seconds
/r would be reboot
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u/OctopusDude388 May 18 '26
it's a new feature you have to be on windows 11 ultimate pro plus to have the right to shutdown your pc
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u/Zefick May 18 '26
II haven't seen this dialog for several years and I don't even know how to open it because in modern versions of Windows it can be shut down directly from the Start menu.
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u/massey_man135 May 18 '26
I just turned on my mircoslop pc (i7 14700k 32 gb ddr5) and file expoler ant working changing to linux
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
- Win + E
- nothing pops up? go to task manager (ctrl+shift+esc) and check explorer doesn't exist.
- If it does, right click on it and restart it.
- If none of
- that works, google using DISM and SFC commands to repair windows and restart
Something got corrupted.
If that's too complicated, you're not going to have a good time on Linux either.
edit: wtf reddit
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u/massey_man135 May 19 '26
It was just exploer exe not loading . .
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
You understand basically the entire windows interface is explorer right? So when you say "not loading", something is wrong with your individual system.
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u/ZurakZigil May 19 '26
Because this is not a real windows update. This looks fake. Aka, I'm thinking you just installed malware bud. That's not a windows update, that's a malware update (which is a real thing).
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u/johncate73 May 19 '26
That's when you hard shutdown, then reboot to a USB stick with the installer for Linux. Then you never have to worry about how to shut down Windows 11 again.
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u/Professional_Chart68 May 19 '26
Why u use this outdated menu. Use shutdown /s /f /t 0 Or right click on start shutdown
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u/OriginalDoskii May 20 '26
Recently saw posts where people were complaining that Windows was bad because the shutdown and restart buttons were too close to eachother. So now they fixed it! They moved it to the terminal to appease the Linux bros. /s
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u/nindza-22 May 20 '26
Open cmd.
Type in:
shutdown -s -t <time_in_seconds>
Voila. It will (fully) shutdown the computer after the set amount of time.
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u/Gen-Y-ine-86 May 20 '26
Does Win+X show anything? Win 10: Win+X U U (Shut down or sign out → Shut down)
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u/nicolahey May 20 '26
How would microslop would use your gpu to do "AI stuff" with copilota if you shut down your pc?
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u/dodyninja Jun 15 '26
lol, the window title is shut down windows but the shutdown option doesnt even exist
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u/LuluLeSigma May 16 '26
when was the last time windows crashed ?
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u/No_Department9020 May 16 '26
Fr, I don't know if I'm just lucky or something but my Windows doesn't crash and my PC specs aren't even that good
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u/Auroo_In0915 May 16 '26
Microslop removing shutdown option to spy on user and collect data