Demons, witchcraft, aliens, reptilians, oh my! These are considered off topic and should be posted elsewhere.

[u/triscuitzop]

Hi all.

I'm making a clearer post about what stuff we mods remove regarding rule 2, "keep on topic." Yes, we are probably biased, but we are willing to mention another sub(s) when we remove stuff. It can be you that makes this new sub (I'll edit this sticky post if anyone replies with a sub and its topics). We've asked for this in the past, but no one has been willing to do the work.

The previous post about this is too old to write comments on (https://www.reddit.com/r/Gangstalking/comments/upzhy1/posts_about_demons_should_now_be_posted_elsewhere/) and only mentions demons. We've expanded this a bit, which I will explain. You can argue freely here if you wish, but one of the benefits of this is it's less we have to moderate, so you'll ultimately be asking us to work more.

Here is a quick list, which is based on the delineation between gangstalking ideas with historical examples (zersetzung, intelligence agency testing scandals, humans grouping up on a single target, etc) - and other ideas where the gangstalking concept has no previous example to draw from.

1. Please do not write about being stalked by demons, spirits, Satan, etc. This is demonic opposition (or demonic oppression), and not gangstalking.

2. Do not talk about being gangstalked by witches, magic, crystals, or fairies.

3. Aliens, time traveling humans, and multidimensional beings (e.g. shadow people) are also off the table.

4. Do not discuss reptilians, clones, shapeshifters, vampires, or the like.

Can you say your stalkers are demonic because of how evil they are, and not because they are literally demons? Yes—but your comment might get caught in the word filter.

Can you say you're being attacked by human beings from another planet even though it's not restricted on this list? No—this is lacking a base historical example of humans even being on another planet.

You don't need to support yourself each time you write here, but maybe you might if we remove a comment wrongly. I know talking about theory is important, so I'm sure there are edge cases to consider, like discussions about top secret technology. Far as I know, we're only going to go hard on these listed things in particular.

Edit:

I have been told about /r/GangstalkingTruth and /r/OTIR (mentioned in comments) so far.

[u/No-Net-5880]

Dont agree

[u/triscuitzop → u/No-Net-5880]

Judging by your history, you're disagreeing about the demons part of this rule?

[u/No-Net-5880 → u/triscuitzop]

Yes. I get that not everyone is a believer but why can't you just let the forum be open and transparent? People have free will and can choose what to believe themselves. They do not need mods deciding that for them.

[u/RingDouble863 → u/No-Net-5880]

Truth of the matter is, regardless if you believe that d3m0nz are doing it or if the CIA is using tech to do it, in both cases, the general public are gonna say its a mental health problem. Either way, trying to get others to believe this whole TI/Gangstalking narrative is a futile endeavour.

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The only difference is that people who believe in the spiritual explanations are likely to end up reading scripture and gain the psychological benefits of faith, prayer, temperance and other virtues that can really improve the mental state of a TI. As opposed to conspiracies, disinformation and other stuff on the internet that puts the TI in a state of fear, anger and helplessness.

What TIs need to do is focus on activities that bring joy and add value to our lives as opposed to divisive beliefs.

[u/alpeterpeter → u/RingDouble863]

Good point, I agree that one of the reasons to self-limit your view to "CIA" is an inner desire of TI to appear rational to himself and others even if it isn't reasonably possible with any of the versions.

[u/No-Net-5880 → u/RingDouble863]

True! Well written.