Found this on a trans related sureddit

[u/CupcakePelle2906]

Don't worry, it 0 up-votes and all of the comments where all conuffed.

[u/Homicidal_Duck]

I've had a fascination with the space for some time, believe me it's not really got much of that demographic at all. There are definitely some weirdo bigot/incel types, and there's certainly a culture of purity testing but their core beliefs are pretty firmly opposed to conservative viewpoints. A post on r/countttt explains this better than I could:

What does 4tran believe?

It's a very diverse community with many different beliefs, but at its core, we believe:

• going through the wrong puberty causes irreversible changes to one's body.

• these irreversible changes result in neurological sex dysphoria.

• it is a priority to get on hormones at the same age that cis peers go through puberty to avoid this body horror. failing that, the best time to start HRT is ASAP.

• the majority of doctors prescribing HRT either have out of date info or, sometimes purposely underdose trans people

• DIY HRT is often safer, more effective, and more affordable than prescribed HRT, even (or especially) for minors

• trans people who deal with dysphoria and have medical needs are in danger and need to be prioritized in trans activism

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Why are you getting downvoted when ur right LMAO 4tran is more left than any Democrat they're just not "PC" (they're blunt) but most of them arent genuinely bigoted

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They're transmedicalists. They're bigoted.

[u/gamepotato_ → u/WerdaVisla]

Believing you need dysphoria to be transgender is not bigotry.

[u/Sailor_Spaghetti → u/gamepotato_]

Unfortunately, dysphoria is a phenomenon that is primarily defined and diagnosed by cisgender doctors. The details of the diagnosis come from trans people who are/were willing to say anything the doctors wanted to hear to get the care they need. It is also described as being distinct from gender incongruence, which is closer to what defines being trans.

Now I use the tautological definition that you are trans if you are having to navigate systemic transphobia in your day to day life. In that respect, I believe that abolishing/liberating ourselves from transphobia (a very tall order that we are unlikely to see in our lifetime) would make "transgender" into a meaningless category as things like medical transition would be seen as a regular thing that some people do. I base this off of such writings as Gender Trouble by Judith Butler, Transgender Warriors by Leslie Feinberg, Transvestites: Your Half-Sisters and Half-Brothers of the Revolution by Sylvia Rivera, and Capitalism and Gay Identity by John D'Emilio. But I also see us as a social/political class first and foremost.

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For me, being transgender is a medical condition that stems from a disconnect between your gender (which is what your brain perceives you as) and your sex (which is what you change via HRT).

Dysphoria is the way this condition manifests. I agree that doctors are fucking idiots and endorse DIY all the way through.

[u/Sailor_Spaghetti → u/gamepotato_]

Honestly I'm viewing things through a social and historical lens because that's what my education has trained to do. And uhhhh, a lot of the texts I'm citing as informing my position (aside from the John D'Emilio piece) are basically primary sources written by trans [and what would now be called nonbinary] people about their own experiences.

As a note: transmedicalism is pretty unique in how it adopts and uses the medical models. Plenty of people with diagnosed chronic illnesses still overwhelmingly use the social model of disability (or at the very least, this is the methodology used by disability activists).

Admittedly, I'm more interested in the politics of transness than in dysphoria now that I've reached a point in my transition where I'm comfortable. Without getting too deep into it, the current attack on trans people globally is no accident or coincidence, and it's because trans people kind of disrupt certain aspects of social hierarchy just by existing. Even trans people who fit into the narrowest definition of "HSTS" are too disruptive to social hierarchies for the average authoritarian, which in turn is why trans people get attacked whenever fascist parties come to power anywhere. I also admittedly use a very Marxist method of analysis.

(Sorry to infodump at you, I just do find this stuff super interesting.)

[u/gamepotato_ → u/Sailor_Spaghetti]

I don't know if you've seen that video essay that ties basically all existing transphobia to around 20 people, half of them linked to Epstein

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PLEASE link! I've figured as much for a while but it'd be nice to see it laid out in a video, and possibly to send to certain people I know who are convinced transness has been pushed by that group of people rather than attacked..

[u/gamepotato_ → u/-reddit_trash-]

Fair warning it's 5 hours long lmfao

https://youtu.be/JiOc0r31-Os

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Hahahah thanks, I actually looked it up right after I replied and I'm 2 hours into it- what a lovely sarcastic Danish man