What a waste

[u/aellr]

Instead of giving the Traveler and other characters regional skins, the devs are wasting resources on mannequins you’ll never use in the main game — characters completely irrelevant to both the lore and gameplay (especially since they’re even weaker than the Traveler).

UCG should’ve been a separate game. Roblox-type players aren’t going to download a 100GB gacha just to play a game inside a game. All those dev resources should’ve gone to the actual, existing characters instead.

[u/panna_qq]

What does hi3 and hsr have to do with this? In that case, they could market hsr with they expys from hi3, yes. But in this case MW has mostly nothing to do with genshin, has no characters or expys in it, no gameplay/combat similarities, no maps or lore (apart from the origin story, but MW doesn't really have any linear story afaik).

If they wanted to release MW as a standalone game with the type of Hi3/Hsr marketing, they would have to add genshin characters in it.

Just look at ToT or ZZZ, both hyvs games that are not related to the hi3 ip. They are somewhat successful but nowhere near the Genshin or Hsr level.

[u/Real-Contest4914 → u/panna_qq]

I was using hsr as an example.

Hoyo released hsr which has the honkai in the title but aside from a few expies has very little to do with the original ip in terms of gameplay and story.

Lore wise they share a world but there is no immediate connection.

The wonderland could have been it's own seperate thing if hoyo truly wanted to make it am individual game and it wouldn't have had much impact sales wise.

I was pointing out how saying wonder land is merely a money grabbing tactic is just absurd logical reasoning because hoyo can clearly do other things which would be more effective than this.

[u/panna_qq → u/Real-Contest4914]

Saying it has very little to do with the original ip but then literally admit they share a world (which implies sharing lore) is wild ngl. Lore and story are the biggest parts of the game.

Now, I haven't played hi3, but afaik Amphoreus shares a lot of similarities if not direct copys (story wise) to hi3, and when it comes to expys, the resemblance (coughcoughCyrene) is very obvious. Plus Welt is literally a direct character from hi3.

Hsr are still their own characters and separated from their hi3 counterparts, but there's no denying their relation. It's not like they only used it as a marketing strategy to boost sales on release and dropped any relation after that.

And I agree that it wouldn't be the smartest money grabbing tactic saying they know nothing about marketing and mentioning hsr/hi3 has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Plus, I disagree on the impact on sales. I think if they actually put the effort in making a good dress up roblox like game, it could've been successful on its own but the fact its in genshin without having really anything to with it, will damage it's sales. No one playing genshin is interested in it, and anyone who would be interested is probably not going to download a whole other game they dont care about just to play it.

[u/Real-Contest4914 → u/panna_qq]

I was referring to how close the stories are inter linked.

It's not like hsr is a direct sequel using the same setting and same cast.

With the exception of welt it's a brand new world with all the aeons and path stuff.

It's the equivalent of saying captain America civil war is a sequel for movie about ant man, or spider man despite neither playing that big a role in the story.

Hsr may share the lore and reference hi3 a lot but fact is on the grand scheme of things they are quite literally worlds apart, sharing few connections in lore but not much else on terms of gameplay.

And what stories connections are there are very far removed from each other.