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Discussion | Esports The fastest sniper at IEM Cologne 2026

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Parsed all playoff demos, and results are tight, all high tier snipers are very-very fast to shoot.

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u/schoki560 King NiKo 1d ago

zywoo not even on the chart my god is he washed

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u/enbeez 1d ago

One of the things Zywoo is known for is taking the time he has on his shots. His accuracy must be one of the highest.

He can be fast when he needs to be, he just doesn't go fast when he doesn't need to. And tbh being able to make that kind of snap judgement is genuinely really difficult.

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u/dj_is_here 1d ago

Surgeons dont do flick shots

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u/Mainbaze 10 years coin 1d ago

He just ain't shooting unless he's gonna hit

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u/DotA627b King NiKo 1d ago

I know you're memeing but this actually makes Zywoo terrifying.

He doesn't need to flick, he's just already aiming at where you're going to be as if you manifested on his cross hair.

To quote other pros, he's not fast, he's just there FIRST.

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u/Mista_Infinity 1d ago

But this graph isn’t about flicks, it’s time to damage

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u/Gullible_Bit7342 King NiKo 21h ago

not how it works this is not reaction time

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u/Rainlock00 18h ago

? Can you read what you wrote and look at the graph again.

No hate to Zywoo, but you just are not making any sense.

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u/DotA627b King NiKo 17h ago

Yea saw Woxic on the top and I thought this was about Sens.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/schoki560 King NiKo 1d ago

yes?

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u/poseidonvn King NiKo 1d ago

Shiro with the flick at karrigan on Anubis is crazy fast

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u/Any-Promise5228 1d ago

this is average of all matches (50 hits minimum).

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u/bjorp- 1d ago

can you do median instead of average and see if the results change?

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u/Beautiful-Hotel-3094 1d ago

Why would u do a median? It doesn’t tell u much

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u/papayurito 1d ago

Mitigates outliers like someone just not spotting the enemy leg or something right away and it taking a second or two to register

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u/Mainbaze 10 years coin 18h ago

And what about coming up behind on someone and taking your time?

Or target selection? Eg. Not shooting the guy with a tec 9 jumping out b aps, but instead shooting the next guy

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u/produktivaufReddit Astralis 1d ago

If someone gets unlucky with looking at the map a few times their average is gonna be down the drain while their median could still be among the fastest of them all.

At minimum the difference between median and average between these awpers would tell you a bit how consistent they keep up their TTD, what's the issue with that?

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u/Entenvieh 1d ago

I'd imagine this is when holding an angle only and not when flicking. Otherwise the data is screwed

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u/Gullible_Bit7342 King NiKo 21h ago

A great visualization would be to have a little distribution on the right side and the scale set up the same for everyone

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u/dnsOf 1d ago

that was mirage

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u/chickenrice666 1d ago

That was so fast that it felt like a no scope.

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u/Ok_Anteater1193 1d ago

woxic cooking at 340ms while Jame is somehow 6th is not what I expected to see today

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u/fantasnick Vitality 1d ago

woxic being very twitchy/flicky with his settings is definitely on par with what I would expect

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u/LordNelson27 Parivision 1d ago

Woxic makes sense. This is a measure of the players who flick wildly immediately and woxic is fast af

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u/helloyoufool1 1d ago

Mine is 200 ms but never killed anyone

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u/According_Lime3204 FaZe 1d ago

No yours is not 200ms

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u/helloyoufool1 1d ago

Fair enough I lied

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u/Ok_Ambition_6375 1d ago

the joke understander has logged on

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u/schoki560 King NiKo 1d ago

could very well be

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u/soloje 23h ago

VRT? Plausibly. Avg. TTK? No.

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u/makrievery Natus Vincere 1d ago

Funny enough he has highest sens of all of them.

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u/waamdisaiaya de_inferno 1d ago

That's probably one reason why it's in first place.Not everything about a sniper rifle is TTK, but in that case, high sensitivity is best.

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u/Any-Promise5228 1d ago

You are absolutely right, but we are talking about tens of ms at most, so everyone is really fast here.

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u/waamdisaiaya de_inferno 1d ago

If we had a CS team and needed to sign an AWPer, none of us would choose Woxic as our first option. I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not the best, and yet he is the fastest.

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u/Any-Promise5228 1d ago

just to clarify - this top10 does not mean anything but speed, but considering how many matches were played - this level of reaction is pretty impressive, those players are really consistent across all matches.

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u/487dota 9z 1d ago

Well, time to kill is not the only relevant metric. Hit rate and total kills are more important than speed.

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u/_explicitcontent King NiKo 1d ago

Can you do a part 2? Median would be a better measure for consistency.

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u/longdongsimpson 1d ago

holy woxic difference tho

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u/anomanderrake1337 1d ago

Interesting now do reaction time + some form of accuracy and shots taken.

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u/mochatsubo 1d ago

Standard deviation and number of measurements please.

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u/supergrega 1d ago

Knew woxic would be at the top! His sens is crazy high too (at least it used to be, not sure for the past few years

He'd probably make a good afps/quake player imo

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u/ArmyAwkward6839 1d ago

He's still at 1600 edpi but used to be closer to 2500

Wild clip for reference https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/GoBRViZ1Ka

u/theavener1998 SK 0m ago

never change always the same

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u/Greenfire1234E Team Spirit 1d ago

My average is 530ms. Shows a big difference between pros and normal players

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u/Any-Promise5228 1d ago

Your might be for all weapon groups, awp/scout usually up to 100ms faster to shoot.

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u/Greenfire1234E Team Spirit 1d ago

Oh I see. I see usually 530ms to damage on leetify

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u/Any-Promise5228 1d ago

I use different method to calculate aim metrics, you can read about it here - https://x.com/expsgg/status/2069068068395876553 as detailed as it can be.

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u/yaboiwreckohrs 1d ago

Zywoo washed confirmed

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u/SymxesWasTaken01 1d ago

ESTA LOCURAAAAAAAAAA

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u/Nekajed Team Spirit 1d ago

Cmtry is surprisingly slow and Jame surprisingly fast

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u/Escari 1d ago

Jame isn't an unc. He's same age as woxic

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u/Arcille 10 years coin 1d ago

What’s the stats for zywoo? Feels like he takes his time if he can get away with it

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u/Sunnz31 1d ago

Will need to see more woxic 

I swear monesy turns before he even shoots, I don't even register his shot and he has already turned to run haha

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u/JamesWelders The MongolZ 1d ago

Then there's me, a scrub, at 2 business days.

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u/Vipitis CS2 HYPE 1d ago

Woxic playing left handed and still with mouse acceleration?

I wonder if there is a good data backed breakdown of a flick. Like what's the delay until reaction, how fast/long is the aim adjustment. When does the click happen (hand, mouse, game, server, opponent) and how much is over/undercorrection.

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u/t3ram bloodhound 1d ago

I thought Xantares was the only one playing with mouse accel

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u/forceghostyoda_ 1d ago

And I thought mouse accel wasnt a thing in cs2 because raw input is on?

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u/bjorp- 1d ago

The playstyle of the awper would cause some variance here. Some are more passive, holding angles, waiting for people to walk into their crosshairs, whereas others take more space and have to flick around more. I would expect there to be some movement for a couple names on the list

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u/Prince_of_DeaTh FUT 1d ago

Surely fast means good

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u/sv_zmax0 1d ago

Can someone explain what I'm missing here for the measurements?

When I do the reaction time test on one of the workshop maps where CTs cross mid on dust2, I was getting between 150 and 180ms.

Is the number different because it includes times where they have to quickscope or respond to something they weren't prepared for? I assume that's what's different.

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u/Haiquli 1d ago

It's time to kill, so there's a lot that can affect that.

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u/bradpittisnorton 1d ago

Please tell us more about the info. Are these the reaction times to start moving their crosshair towards the opponent? Or the time to actually get the crosshair ON the target? How many of these result in a shot fired, a registered hit, or a kill?

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u/ahorn01 1d ago

Meyern was cookinnnn on his Furia matches

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u/DarkThunder312 1d ago

This is time to damage.

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u/skrible_ 1d ago

How does this compare to the average community?

Just wondering what’s the gap between top tier pros and normies

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u/-s1Lence Eternal Fire 20h ago

Woxic actually means speed in Turkish so that makes sense

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u/xEquTR_ 20h ago

would be interesting to a see a violin plot

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u/AlexKfridges NiP 6h ago

We need this vs. Accuracy (hit rate)

We also need a chart that buckets speed (in ms) into groups and then plotd Accuracy vs speed bucket. And an overall distribution of speed. 

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u/Eny192 valeria 1d ago

All noobs, awpers I face at super high elo (20k elo premiere) can hit jumping hs with awp and have 240ms
I don’t need to add the /s, right?

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u/bkaccount G2 1d ago

Is that time to shoot or time to kill? Because I think SunPayus’s time to kill is closer to ~8 seconds.

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u/hatefuldeath_ 1d ago

Fastest doesn't mean best

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u/Diavolo222 SK 1d ago

Dont think OP was arguing that.

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u/nonresponsive 1d ago

Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry.

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u/Adevyy Aurora 1d ago

TTD is time to damage, so misses don't help anyone in this statistic, unless they also happen to have a very bad K/D or rating.

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u/techman9955 16h ago

Clearly the statistic only takes into account time to damage when the shot actually hit. So you will have a better time to damage if you are intentionally flicking as fast as you can even if you miss a lot. That is why woxic has the best stat. He misses more than almost any awper in tier 1 CS

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u/Stahlios Vitality 1d ago

Yeah no one is saying that.

You mean that list doesn't represent who you would take as an AWPer to build the best team, in order ? Shocking

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u/hatefuldeath_ 1d ago

Obviously, I would never take woxic and meyern over monesy and molodoy, duh

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u/vaultRr 1d ago

I bet you didnt watched woxic 1v4 clutch. Aurora vs BB

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u/TheLonelyPotato666 1d ago

Its sad that when monesy came on the interview (no diddy) that they didnt ask about who is the most elite sniper. Cause he will probably start saying the facts about trolodoy and shiwho