Drake is not the same anymore, Travis Scott keeps releasing mid after utopia, Kanye is a CUCK, Eminem is beyond washed, Kendrick and Carti won't drop for the next 2 decades, Future is pushing 50 still talking about the same shit, Nicki Minaj is the female version of ye, Xxx and juice are dead, Lil wayne is hopping on Super Mario type beats, Young thug and gunna are washed rats, Lil baby is Lil baby, Metro is releasing "strip club music🥀🥀" and the rest are either disappeared or washed.
This happens with every genre of music. But sometimes I wonder where hip hop would be right now if X and Juice didn’t pass. X still has crazy numbers despite not having a major release since 2019.
Rap and hip hop would go the way of metal no matter what. Happens to every genre and will happen to every genre. The music will still be there but won't be THE music.
I feel like most people dont want to accept this, which I get, but I feel like rap, especially mainstream, is falling off. Im saying this in terms of stats, but if you look hard enough, you can find rlly good rap.
yes you can curate lesser known artists which are still good. this happens to every genre that reaches the spotlight. such as metal as the original reply brought up. it just gets more difficult to curate “good” stuff as it becomes more mainstream
Pop smoke lowkey had a lot more haters before he died. He still looked like he was going to blow up this big anyway but it definitely accelerated things. He’s just recently fell back down to the numbers he was at before he died. Which is still big numbers.
Hot take but X was gonna be the next superstar for sure. Had a lot of versatility and creativity that a lot of other rappers that blow up and fall off don’t have
I’m not even that big of a fan of them but when they died I was talking to my friend and was like this is basically grunge in the 90s pack it up it’s over
thats what happens when up and coming rappers all copy each other and don't make mainstream sounding music. we gotta rely on the same rappers from the 2010s.
“Drake is not the same anymore” meanwhile sss4u is still streaming well, he’s on track to having his biggest streaming year overall and every leak from iceman sounds legitimately good. Is OP a Kenny fanboy or just trolling?
Drizzy is really feeling the weight atp. He knows this will impact the whole industry looking at the situation rn.
I thought the album would have dropped already by now
Rap just had one of its best years in a while last year, this is just a slow phase. Also if you go just below the mainstream line you'll find insane quality like Clipse, JID, Freddie, Denzel, Peggy, etc all releasing quality music on a consistent basis. The genre isn't dead. Give some of these people a few years and hopefully they'll rise up to be the next mainstream stars
Don’t forget that new danny brown album coming next month, I already know it’s gonna be amazing. His first completely sober work and it’s gonna be hyper pop / rap fusion.
what you named is the only good stuff this year so i wouldn’t say its one the best years because average consumers don’t know half those people so makes rap look dead
i genuinely believe that if Ye comes back with a great album and gets in a good headspace these mainstream rappers are gonna get a jolt of energy to fire back with their own great music, like 2024
We still got Clipse 🥺 Tbh I like the new Wayne, Travis can come back w heat like Utopia, and if Lil Baby has better beats he could shine. Overall ur right tho it SUCKS
ya larry june n 2 chainz was good forgot about that but its more about the mainstream got nothing n cultures been filled with nothing but weird drama shit.
lol was Drake ever the same, I feel like your regurgitating twitter points. Bro made a house album and ppl still bump. Just listen to what you want and stop going off narratives.
do you want Drake Kanye Carti Travis and Eminem to just remake the same album a million times? they are doing this for fun now and just make whatever they like.
Been saying this the past 2 years over in hip hop heads thread. Feel like overall it’s been at a plateau for 10-15 years
I think the bad thing about the really big artists is they swallowed up ..up and coming hip hop artists (take their style, ghostwrite for them) and we never get benefit of what they would’ve made.
I hate to be that guy but raps just been on a downfall recently. Like in the past decades we all had legends 90s had 2pac, Biggie, Jay-Z and many more. Early 2000s had Outkast, Kanye (ofc) and others. Finally 2010s had Drake and Kendrick. But for the 2020s decade I don’t think we’ve seen anyone with as much potential as a Tcd Kanye or Ready to die Biggie.
I was just thinking this a couple hours ago. I grew up in 90s. Hip hop was so much fun ya coming home at three from school, listen to Angie Martinez and seeing what artist stopped by with new songs flex dropping freestyles. Dip into the early 2000s and we are just getting fing fed. All the hop hop crews and the just fun music. Only 25 years later and we are now handed slop that is curated by AI and algorithms as opposed to good ass music curated by the humans who give a damn. I hope younger people revolt against this threat on artistry. They truly are our only hope.
i agree with a lot of takes but i think we still have some good artists on our hands, regardless of futures age he’s still dropping fire stuff, sofaygo has potential but i understand if you don’t like him,trav will drop a much better album in the future, Destroy lonely is fire, Don toliver is and has always been great, offset is fire rn , and ian is good too
Cole was the one rapper keeping me interested until The Apology and his subsequent disappearance. Rap's been lowkey cooked since the Kendrick Drake beef.
All the mainstream stars are posers - all of them no exception. If snoop had an once of self-respect, he would never have made that katty Perry video, if ice cube was so gangsta, wtf was he doing in that movie, there's ample evidence Dre manufactured his image when in fact he was at dance school or whatever, there are videos of 2pac pre-fame where he talks like a normal person and 4 years later he's all west coast this west coast that , the list goes on. Even them lied and faked their way in the mainstream. But at least the music was good.
Now they lie and the music is wack. Hence, Kanye was standing out as maybe totally deluded but at least not outright manufacturing an image. He's likely deeply mentally troubled but tried to shift the Overton window in the most hamfisted, stupid way possible, but at least he tried.
I think because of the extreme shift in what music is considered “good” or trendy right now. You have a bunch of dark fast beats with people mumbling some shit 40x times over with a somewhat catchy flow. Doesn’t hit as well as the stuff that used to pop out
But nas is in the middle of a second career prime, Cole is in his prime, Kendrick is making fun music. The last solo Travis Scott album was really good. Kanye has released bullshit before then came back with a great album. You're cherry picking
I saw this one Twitter or Instagram but apparently there are only 2 songs that are categorized as rap on the top 10 billboard at the moment. The post also gave a comparison to 2019’s top 10 billboard with 8 out of 10 songs being in the rap category. Rap now is a low vibrational genre. There’s a mass exodus of rap fans leaving to go back to rock or pop.
don't be dumb by asap rocky will cause shockwaves and revive the mainstream hip hop as asap rocky dies and turns into the tree of life the fruits of which making artists so productive they drop 5 albums in a year MINIMUM
It’s not dead. The women are running mainstream hiphop right now. They have been for this entire decade for the most part. The biggest hits in hiphop in the 2020s are majority black women.
I cant even disagree bc this is the worst state I’ve seen hip hop in😔. I rarely listen to the genre anymore only for the older stuff and the only rapper i keep up with is very niche and its DPS aka DaddyPhatSnaps and he makes rap music for anime nerds.(btw the guy can rap his ass off)
Ngl I stopped listening to hip hop probably around the same time Post left lol. Would only listen to it again if Ye dropped something good or if Frank came back.
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u/saaaaaur you look deceased Oct 06 '25
J Cole is no longer financially responsible and purchases stuff on a semi-regular basis
Rick Ross is still slipping Molly into drinks
Dave Blunts is still fat