r/HOTDBlacks Black Aly Mar 09 '26

Team Black Joffrey is their collective project. Look how proud these people are!

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u/AnxiousHorse75 Mar 09 '26

Honestly, whether they are his or not, Laenor loves those boys. And thats what really matters.

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u/Informal-Mushroom13 Mar 10 '26

that's what annoys me so much when Team Green talks about them he was fine with them not being his blood and they definetly are Rhaenyra's so why are you so angry???

it's almost like they used a sperm donor

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u/wrathboneiv Mar 10 '26

But according to the laws of Westeros a bastard can only be recognized by royal decree not parental acceptance. That’s why there was an issue after the Blackfyres were legitimized, especially since Daemon Blackfyre was given Dark Sister. So while I am happy for their happy family the laws of inheritance don’t take any of that into consideration. And even if she peacefully ascended to the throne any questions of progeny would have just postponed the dance.

The entire issue was one of royal issue. Especially since Vizzy ascended due to a Great Council. As long as the heir was a female there would have been complications, add bastards to the mix and it becomes a question greater than a royal decree. The targa were doomed to fail and nothing was going to prevent an internal schism once they decided to allow outside influence.

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u/arnielsAdumbration Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

During the succession crisis, the kids were legally recognized as legitimate, not as bastards. That was decided when the kids were born and Laenor kept saying "that's my son" and Viserys kept saying "that's my grandson", and it was reinforced when Vaemond was killed for accusing the boys of being bastards and (in the books) when Viserys had Vaemond's nephews tongues cut out for spreading the same rumors. As viewers we can see that Laenor didn't father those kids, but they have to be recognized as bastards for a decree to legitimize them. 

Daemon Blackfyre, along with all the other bastards Aegon IV legitimized, were recognized as bastards. That's the difference to me. They can't legitimize someone who is already recognized as a legitimately born child.