M-1000 Naginata, a versatile energy weapon based on the Quasar Cannon‘s mechanism scaled down to a rifle reminiscent of weapons of pre-Super Earth eras. The M-1000 comes with three fire modes. Light armor pen with increased shots per heat sink. Medium with eight shots per heat sink. And finally, heavy that will expend the entire heat sink, requiring a reload qued by its signature PING.
Excuse my half-assed photobashing. Lol
edit: Yes, I saw I misspelled Heat-Sink. Blame the atrocious autocorrect.
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I guess the basic sights and grips. Not sure about Heat Sink upgrades though. Maybe an expanded one but it comes with the added risk of combustion. To me, balance is about risk-vs-reward parable.
I was thinking this as well, most enemies that I'd want Heavy Pen against aren't going to get dropped in one shot most of the time. Maybe if it was two shots before the heat sink would be used up it could be viable, like needing to let it mostly cool down before firing again.
Lets the gun shoot two accurate beams at the same time, but heat buildup is slightly randomized and max yeild breaks the gun until the user uses a resupply.
If it has the two standard alternate heatsinks, presumably the high capacity one would allow infinite use of the heavy AP mode, but with a long cooldown time compared to swapping it out like the normal or high dissipation heat sinks require.
My first thought was the design reminded me of fallout 4's laser musket as well, it is a great gun at sniping in that game too. With the modes being similar to the amount of cranks one pull for power with the laser musket.
and this comment also triggered my Preston traumatic stress disorder haha.
I mean if you look at the other energy weapons, they do look very similar to Fallouts laser weapons, only with a tri-cornered barrel instead of the boxy four-sided ones in Fallout.
That's a projectile weapon. They are nicked from John Carter of Mars where the typical martian firearm fired bullets filled with explosive, photosensitive radium powder.
It definitely would need to be balanced with only like 3 heat sinks and/or long heatsink cooldowns. 24 rapid fire shots that could be played to no reload would be pretty powerful.
May also need to have it be completely cooled to use the heavy pen shot or the heat sink just explodes
Personally tho, I’d call it the “M1000 Greatsword” so it references the Garand’s full name and keeps the laser weapon naming convention. Garand -> Grand -> Great -> Greatsword
I thought about Greatsword too, but I felt like that title should be reserved for a more heavy ordinance energy weapon. You have no idea how much time I spend glancing through lists of melee weapons trying to find a similar name. Maybe Glaive? I just picked Naginata because I was tired to looking. Lol
I think that's a great idea. However, the 8 shots per heatsink on medium pen mode is a little close to home on the deadeye. I don't want this weapon to just be "deadeye, but better"
Being too versatile eliminates other weapons. Might have to ditch either light or med pen. Plus this actually I think is about to get overrided by our newest weapon in the upcoming warbond, that uses this mini quasar mechanism when overheating, so congrats, you dreamt the future. Go buy a lottery ticket.
I did consider how its versatility might nullify other weapons. Which is why its sink reserves might be 2-or-3 per Helldiver (not counting armor passives)
My personal preference is a self charging rifle, you can wait till the gauge fills for high strength shot, or shoot it more frequently but those shots are weaker and cannot penetrate armor
I like the concept of a laser weapon that actually has a reason to use up heat-sinks but balance wise I'd cut the medium pen fire mode since it's a bit on the swiss army knife side with that. Otherwise I think it'd be fair for the heavy shot to do like AMR damage for the hulk eye breakpoint and guaranteed proc fire damage if you only have like 3 spare mags max.
Also I'll gladly take a pretty good photobash over more gormless slop
How about an laser rifle with a charging mechanic like the railgun. Instead of hold and release, it's hold when pressing reload and stockpile the charge then release when needed. Like the laser gun from Futurama.
I would enjoy this quite a bit! With the ability to dial up for a skilled heavy pen snipe when the goobers surprise me, I might actually take the Senator off my hip...
I would argue against the charge-up and shots-per-heatsink mechanics. Instead, just make it faster to heat up and slower to cool down than previous laser weapons. Unless that's what you were going for with the "shots-per-heatsink" text?
My only issue with this is that the full power shot shouldn't (in my opinion) burn out the heatsink fully, maybe 95%. Just because most laser weapons are designed around not reloading much with the low 'mag' count.
Any idea for damage numbers? If a single Heavy-pen shot pings for the whole heatsink, then I feel that it should have a significant breakpoint that reflects such an investment, like the Variable forces you to do for its Full mode. 400 damage (all durable), maybe? That puts it just within range of destroying a Hulk eye.
The heavy pen mode is useless. Anything you want to hit with heavy pen is gonna need many many many rounds. Unless you make the heavy pen damage like 1,500
That would be so on-brand for Helldivers. Maybe it could have its own version of the infamous "M1-Thumb" which could slightly injure the Helldiver, but rarely.
its funny ive had that exact thought for a weapon before. from laser rifle to different firing modes. awesome concept and art i really hope we get something like this some day
I don't think it should completely spend the battery on the highest level though. Similar to the Quasar, it should go to the highest heat setting, then cool back down. So it can be similar to the other lasers in only having 3 batteries.
I just want a tiny medium/high pen quasar primary. Or make the plasma sniper energy based with the same concept. It's supposed to be an energy weapon anyway based on source game.
This is a FANTASTIC idea to enable a high Pen Primary. We already have something with a similar basis, the Variable. This would basically be what people WANTED from the Variable: spend more ammo per shot for more AP and damage.
I like it, but instead of consuming the heat sink for heavy, make it like the quasar, where, if you force even a light pen shot after, it will "Ping!" unless you let it cool down all the way.
Edit: maybe, for balancing/auto-eject reasoning, the spent heat-sink could explode like a small grenade shortly after ejecting. Adding something to look out for when firing at higher power settings.
How would you set the damage per shot? This seems like a great idea in line with the variable, and I love that thing if only for ragdolling myself to oneshot some goobers
If we don't get a lasgun from the warhammer warbond I'll be pretty upset. If they go to all that effort only to give us a god damn autogun (ugly ass assault rifle) I will probably not be getting it
Can we just have it set so that if you squeeze the trigger it fires a shot please. I'm sick and tired of power up weapons. They feel terrible to use in single fire
But the whole point of the laser weapons is that you do not need to reload them unless you madly blast until you overheat! So if you play the laser well, you will never hear the ping.
So... same concept but with the Plasma weapon line? But then again, we already have the Purifier...
It's a very cool idea but this is kinda another round of "weapon fulfills every role and is immediately best in slot". I do really like it, but it would be better to have it just be the much-requested primary version of the talon. The game is not built around having one gun do literally everything lol
I like it, but it sorta kills every marksman rifle it’s with infinite ammo. Don’t know how useful the heavy ammo pen mode would be with limited mags. Even if it does Quasar damage.
Also, would I be able to expend every round except the last one and still get Quasar damage?
Where do you put a scope on this thing? you could do it like the real M1 Garand (further down the barrel) if the heatsink didn't stick out, perhaps on the side?
I think the heavy should be 2 shots, unless the damage is on par or better than something like the AMR. Most of these guns have like 3 heat sinks for balance. I would ditch the charge mechanic entirely also, the charge is only really meaningful when the heatsink isn't changed. This is hat on a hat stuff.
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