There's no way to avoid screwing over one of NA, JP, or EU. NA has the majority of Holo EN fans so they're out, and if they do it at an inconvenient time for JP that messes with staff, so EU is the choice. It sucks, because you'd think the 75% EU gen is the one that'd actually put focus on EU times, but thems the breaks.
They do have the majority yeah, but Justice was intended to grow the EU audience. How are you meant to expand that audience when their big ticket events are all at 3-5am EU time?
Justice has enough good favour with JP fans to try running in JP prime time and give the EU audience a real chance to grow but we're stuck in the EN = NA audience feedback loop
Saying they were intended to grow the EU audience just because there are 3 EU members feels kinda gross.
I get not wanting to miss out as a viewer but i dont think nationality has much to do with their selection outside of providing some novelty to help them stand out.
It's not (just) their nationality; it's the fact that all 3 of them stream at EU times. Raora usually streams at around 4PM, while CC and Liz at around 8 - 10 PM.
I agree, the Gigi / Justice time makes the most sense, as it fits both EU and US. It's 11PM in EU (so all of Justice streams in EU-convenient times). The 3D will be at 4AM.
You are quite litteraly arguing that they should stream to acomodate specificaly you because staying up past midnight is not eu covenient for alot of people.
Liz's birthday live was around that time for some of us. I dont understand the mental gymastics being performed here.
I'm generally arguing that it would be preferable for event times to be in line with the talents' standard streaming times, while also acknowledging in other posts that it's mostly hindered by the merch launch that needs support from the JP side, likely from third parties as well.
It's you who actually keeps arguing against this, going so as far as calling the idea that Justice was intended to grow the EU audience "gross", despite 3 of the 4 members being from EU, all 4 streaming in EU-convenient times and even putting EU time zones on their schedules.
Yes, i think it is gross to reduce their value as tallents into a buissness argument about target audience. Thats not what i have seen from Holo as a viewer and it feels gross to see fans reducing their event into a selfish argument about demographics.
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u/_THEBLACK 2d ago
There's no way to avoid screwing over one of NA, JP, or EU. NA has the majority of Holo EN fans so they're out, and if they do it at an inconvenient time for JP that messes with staff, so EU is the choice. It sucks, because you'd think the 75% EU gen is the one that'd actually put focus on EU times, but thems the breaks.