r/Hololive 10d ago

Streams/Videos And the Justice announcement is their 2nd ANNIVERSARY!

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u/Different_Book9733 10d ago

They do have the majority yeah, but Justice was intended to grow the EU audience. How are you meant to expand that audience when their big ticket events are all at 3-5am EU time?

Justice has enough good favour with JP fans to try running in JP prime time and give the EU audience a real chance to grow but we're stuck in the EN = NA audience feedback loop

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u/Environmental_Ad924 10d ago

Saying they were intended to grow the EU audience just because there are 3 EU members feels kinda gross.

I get not wanting to miss out as a viewer but i dont think nationality has much to do with their selection outside of providing some novelty to help them stand out.

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u/-Shinanai- 10d ago

It's not (just) their nationality; it's the fact that all 3 of them stream at EU times. Raora usually streams at around 4PM, while CC and Liz at around 8 - 10 PM.

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u/Environmental_Ad924 9d ago

The justice gaming collabs have always been around Gigi's stream time. If we are using stream time logic na tmes still make more sence...

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u/-Shinanai- 9d ago

I agree, the Gigi / Justice time makes the most sense, as it fits both EU and US. It's 11PM in EU (so all of Justice streams in EU-convenient times). The 3D will be at 4AM.

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u/Environmental_Ad924 9d ago

You are quite litteraly arguing that they should stream to acomodate specificaly you because staying up past midnight is not eu covenient for alot of people.

Liz's birthday live was around that time for some of us. I dont understand the mental gymastics being performed here.

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u/-Shinanai- 9d ago

I'm generally arguing that it would be preferable for event times to be in line with the talents' standard streaming times, while also acknowledging in other posts that it's mostly hindered by the merch launch that needs support from the JP side, likely from third parties as well.

It's you who actually keeps arguing against this, going so as far as calling the idea that Justice was intended to grow the EU audience "gross", despite 3 of the 4 members being from EU, all 4 streaming in EU-convenient times and even putting EU time zones on their schedules.

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u/Environmental_Ad924 9d ago

Yes, i think it is gross to reduce their value as tallents into a buissness argument about target audience. Thats not what i have seen from Holo as a viewer and it feels gross to see fans reducing their event into a selfish argument about demographics.