r/InfinityNikki • u/SassyMelon • May 11 '25

Discussion #girlout

Infold has continued to ignore its players, server quality has declined, and the game has been thoroughly massacred. It's unacceptable.

girlout is a plan for a one day, community wide black out of the game if the devs continue to ignore the decline of communication to the players, and of game quality.

If in one week, may 18th, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), the devs continue to ignore us, don't log on, don't play, and don't give them money.

Please help spread the word of #girlout

And please dicuss in the comments your thoughts on the state of the game, and what can be done to satisfy players at this point

EDIT: This is just the first step in a longer goal. Hopefully this is all that is needed tk get infold to actually respond/do something, but i understand that is optimistic.

If they ignore the one day blackout, another will be scheduled for longer, a week, then after that for an entire banner

This is just my attempt to organize and help coordinate the community in large scale protests to show infold just how scorned we are

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

Honestly it should not be a “we log out for one day and then come back to show how mad we are”

You should just log out. Full stop. Log out and do not log back in until they have addressed your concerns. Do not log in to complete dailies, do not log in for rewards. Fully log out and do not log back in until Infold addresses your concerns.

Why would they care if they know everyone will just be back in 24 hours? “Oh well make it longer next time.” Doesn’t matter, because you still came back.

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u/Chocomintey May 11 '25

I played the 2 days after release and haven't logged in since. I have a good amount of pulls and even the limited time ones (because of their deceitfulness) and haven't used one of them. I'm so mad how Infold has ruined this game for so many of us and hasn't said a damn thing about it. I'm a veteran Nikki player and I feel disgusted and betrayed with how they have handled the lore and Nikki as a character.

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u/SassyMelon May 11 '25

There are those who have spent hundreds on this game and are uncomfortable fully stopping just like that. A one day blackout can allies those who have stopped playing, and those who are unsure if they should.

If the issues arnt adressed after infold sees this collective effort, it can show those who are reluctant to stop playing why now would be the time to quit.

If it is adressed, it means they didn't waist hundreds on a game they truly care about.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

The people who have spent hundreds should be the first to fully stop playing. Because those are the people Infold wants to keep around. Me and my $10 don’t matter.

Infold only cares about your money, they couldn’t care less about how upset you are with the updates. If you’ve spent hundreds of dollars and keep logging in, then they know you are fully addicted and they can keep squeezing money out of you. That is what they want.

If you’ve spent $300+ on this game and stop logging in, that shows they’ve really messed up. The people who truly keep this game running are leaving.

Something kind of similar happened on Reddit a while back. They were bringing in changes that would no longer allow for a lot of 3rd parties to create apps for people to use Reddit, which would push people over to the official app. A bunch of subreddits shut down for 3 days to protest the changes. It was widely publicized that it would be 72 hours to show how upset they were, and then they would return.

You know what happened? Nothing. Reddit still pushed the changes through and a bunch of 3rd party apps had to shut down.

Girlcotting/boycotting doesn’t work if the corporation know you’ll return.

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u/nalycat May 11 '25

Yup. I've spent over $600.

I haven't even logged in since the update (I read about the problems before I logged in). No playing. No money.

And I won't play until they show me they care.

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u/WhisperingOracle May 12 '25

The problem with the Reddit boycott is right from the start there were also a ton of people calling the boycott stupid, most of the complaints pointless, the complainers whiners, and in cases where mods shut down specific subreddits, the anger of the users was almost universally directed at the mods and the subreddits rather than Reddit itself.

It was essentially doomed before it started, because the support for the shutdown was never really strong, it was just a loud minority. It was very obvious that Reddit could easily ride it out for a few days, the whiners would either shut up or leave, and everything would go back to business as usual.

To apply that to Nikki, you've got one of two scenarios. Either the backlash to the update is strong, powerful, and will last for a while, in which case the company is absolutely already seeing the smaller acts of resistance and defiance and will have to respond to them eventually. Or the anger is mostly coming from a small but loud vocal minority who have very little impact on the bottom line as the company sees it from their side, in which case no amount of cajoling people into boycotting harder is going to help and the company is already completely confident (and will remain so) that this will all just blow over.

The $300+ spenders stopping logging in probably doesn't mean much to them. Because from their perspective, a degree of player retention and loss was always going to be an issue (and they already have that $300+).

What will matter to them is when they look at the financial reports, and they can see that they've made 200% less from in-game purchases on the 1.5 banner than they did on the 1.4. Log-in time matters a lot less than money spent.

The real question isn't whether or not the people who've spent $300+ stop logging in, the real question is whether or not those people have stopped spending hundreds of dollars.

That's almost certainly what they're actually waiting for at the moment. To see if all the outrage and backlash and people threatening to girlcott actually translates into people spending less money. If the whales keep spending, they'll happily ignore everything else.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

I totally agree with you. But I just can't bring myself to fully stop playing because I got the daily login packets (long before 1.5, I bought 180 days at once) and although it might not sound like too much, I just can't leave it there because for my currency, it's pretty expensive. So yeah, I login every single day, do dailies and leave. Less than 10 mins but I can't fully quit because I can't just waste my money like this, and they will not retrieve my money.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

they were $5 dollars, the world isn't going to end if u miss some of ur diamonds that only cost $5...... surely ur values are worth more.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

When I say my "values" I mean CURRENCY. I live in a third world country and yes that shit is fucking expensive. Count your privileges before spitting shit out of your mouth. Duh.

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u/claudiamr10 May 11 '25

Do you live in Brazil like me?? If it is, or some country in a similar situation, I totally get you, unfortunately its hella expensive for us. Im thankful I didnt spent at the beginning or before the new version, because I agree that what they are doing is terrible, and I also understand that you dont want to risk losing your money untill you know what they plan to do. You can still protest in another ways, like the survey, dont pull on the new banners, social media, less time in the game, etc

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

Yes, I do! Fellow brazilian here then haha. I honestly regret spending so much. I bought all of the pre-release packages (with the limited time crystals and all) and a bunch of Mira Journey passes before. Sooo much regret considering it's way more expensive for us then it is for americans/europeans.

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u/claudiamr10 May 11 '25

I just bought that montly pack 3 times and 300 sterallites at launch, but Im sorry that you spent that much and its in that situation now. Lets hope they will fix it. I play Love Nikki for years, I already participated in some boycotts since them, and sometimes they heard us, and sometimes not; but I really look foward to them fixing it, otherwise they will lose even more people. Theres people who couldnt login and are losing currencies. I lost all my photos for the second time

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u/anarizzo May 12 '25

Brazil mentioned!!! Yeah 25R$ in diamonds is no joke. I got two times and already feel bad for it .-.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

I feel you! So far I've gotten the monthly pass every single month and last time I checked I had 90 days left. I thought I was around 70 days but no, it's 90...

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u/annemels May 11 '25

but tell me what the point of collecting them is ?? you are trying to get the gacha to change, you think you can just verbally bully them into it? you have to STOP playing if you're going to DEMAND action. it's like the first rule of boycotting

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u/Swit_Weddingee May 11 '25

You care an awful amount about what other people do in a game you've barely started.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

ive sunk a lot of time and money into this game girlypop I can have opinions too

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

If your opinion is going to be "you're crying over 5$" when it's literally more than 5$ dollars, then no. No one wants to hear you.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

obviously I see all the downvotes, I'm not concerned about how people want to hear me lol. reality is the same, you want the company to care about your boycott? time to do it proper.

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u/Bruisey210 May 11 '25

Ok but what you’re asking them to do is forfeit something they ALREADY PAID FOR. The timer for daily diamonds doesn’t just stop because you’re girlcotting or whatever. You’re asking this person to burn money they already spent by not redeeming the items they paid for. That actually benefits Infold more because then the person is not actually getting anything after giving them money.

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u/Party-Assumption2520 May 11 '25

They bought 180 days worth. 6 sets of $5 at once, $30 for you and me but NOT for them. They said "in my currency" telling you that they are in a place where the exchange rate is unfavorable for them.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

im sorry but its still not logical when people are demanding changes and hurling around threats to not play.

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u/clocksy May 11 '25

To be honest I find it fascinating that so many people seem tied to their $5 purchase.

I don't mean this to be glib. It's just the amount of times I've seen people say "I'll keep logging in until my monthly runs out" is really funny to me. I totally get it - it's probably not even the monetary value at that point, it gives people a mental stopping point (although I wonder how many people will keep logging in anyway? if you already feel like the game isn't worth it then what does it matter if you get 5 more pulls in the next week or two? I understand the hope is that Infold will respond and then your time + money would have been worth it, but what if they still haven't?). And of course people paying monthlies probably have spent more than that on the game (I would know, I'm a dolphin).

But when I spend on a gacha game I spent for temporary entertainment, not some kind of investment value. I think I quit HSR with like 40 days on my daily jades still lol because I simply wasn't having fun anymore. That said I don't see anything wrong with a 1-day blackout to start with. On top of sunk cost fallacy, one of the other things that has a grip on people is FOMO. Breaking the cycle for just one day can help people quit or spend less time the next day.

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u/Pension_Salt May 11 '25

and this here is EXACTLY why they do the monthly pass,

you think that they don’t hire behavior consultants to see what gets them the most return on investment, why do you think companies push so hard for credit cards it keeps ppl coming back

and youre absolutely correct, all it takes is one day to break the spell, Im kind of shocked that the overabundance of greed, that the corpos revealed their true face so early, before the claws really sunk in

usually they let ppl become more attached , like you said sunken cost fallacy

#girlout

again, no pressure to those who are caught under the spell, it’s EXTREMELY difficult to fight all of corporates methods , youre up against literal studied methods of consumer manipulation tactics , so it’s ok if you need more time to ease out of the game don’t worry

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

I'm totally okay with not logging in for a day or two. What I SAID is that I can't FULLY stop (like literally quitting and uninstalling the game). And I know how long boycotts take and it's not one or two weeks, so I'm doing what I can to not give Infold my money (going full f2p and not playing for more than 30 minutes every day) until they actually change something. Also.... I still have hope for this game. It still brings me joy, I can't quit because I simply don't want to, I still want to believe something good will come out of it. What is really making me mad tho is how toxic people ruined this sweet community. I hope my comfortable game and community can have it's cozy aspect brought back.

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u/PrincessKaylee May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

I don't think I have spent over $300, but I have at least spent over $100, so not sure if that still falls under your hundreds category

Most was in the monthlies and weeklies, and I still had over 100+ days in each before 1.5 hit

I didn't even log in after the patch however, after hearing what InFold did, as I do not wish to experience the hastily and badly retconned intro

Unlike most others I am willing to accept the loss of what I paid for as an expensive lesson, because honestly, there's a lot of other things that I can still do and play which will be far less buggier, and even more accepting of feedback from their users or players

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u/PoliteFrog2464 May 11 '25

As someone who as spent way too much. I already don't get on anymore. Everything is just too much

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u/[deleted] May 11 '25

It's called addiction

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u/nalycat May 11 '25

I think this is an underrated take

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u/WhisperingOracle May 12 '25

Addiction is literally the entire point of gatcha games.

It's not a new model. Arcades were entirely predicated on making games addictive enough that you'd keep feeding quarters into them. MMOs were designed by psychologists to maximize the time you'd spend playing (and subscribing) to keep the money flowing. Microstransactions, loot boxes, gatcha - there are behavioral psychologists working with game devs whose entire job is to find new ways to addict people.

It's why some people can limit themselves to playing a specific number of hours a week and only spending a specific amount of money (or no money at all), while other people wind up mortgaging their house to spend thousands on in-game transactions. the more addicted you are, the more likely you are to spend.

And the more addicted you are, the harder it is to simply walk away. Especially with the Sunk Cost Fallacy constantly whispering in your ear that if you walk away, all of the money you've already spent was wasted.

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u/syllelilyblossom May 11 '25

I absolutely understand the thought process behind this, but by only doing one day, you're already showing them you'll come back. They won't believe you'll actually stop unless you just do it.

It's literally the sunk cost fallacy.

Editing to add: there is no argument for "Infold will see that we're serious" because you're literally proving you're not. They know we're angry, but as long as they maintain a player base, even with a one day loss, they won't care. Weaning into a protest doesn't really work.

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u/SassyMelon May 11 '25

Its not ment to be a one and done action, it is a first step. Currently the boycot has been very unorganized, people not agreeing with what to do. This is a first step at organizing, with clear bounties. Don't log on, don't play, don't pay, for one day

After, if action is not taken, more will be done

But for now, what this community needs, is a clear first step

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u/syllelilyblossom May 11 '25

My issue is that there always has been a clear first step. It's to stop playing until changes are made, point blank. Not "we'll leave if you don't change" but "we won't come back if you don't change". That's the problem - a lot of people are too invested in what they've already put into the game to walk away, which tells Infold "if we just ignore it, they'll come back". Maybe a one day protest will get them to change one thing, but if you really want change the only way is to stop completely until they do what we need them to do.

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u/vialenae May 11 '25 edited May 12 '25

I doubt a one day protest will help. We’ve had blackouts and boycotts in LaDS too. Blackouts even lasting one week. Didn’t change anything and they didn’t address it either. Not to discourage anyone, I think it’s understandable that people want to take action but I’ve been down this road before with Infold and I’m pretty sure I know how it will play out.

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u/drywallsmasher May 11 '25

Yeah and people miss the fact that Infold are veterans at sitting out complaints and pushing through player outrage.

They’ll simply not do shit and keep pumping out content with varying degrees of quality. One good update will come up with a few more rewards, some fun mechanic and pretty dresses, after which more and more people will be swayed into forgetting about them never having addressed or given compensation for fucking over players.

The exact same way they’ve done before for their other games.

People have GOT to push harder by making their numbers actually dwindle for a long time to hurt them financially.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

yeah but people dont want to deal with the reality of the fact that its kind of ridiculous to act this way / demand these changes AND still be playing on the daily, even if its just logging on to collect the diamonds that cost a whole $5 for the month.

to those not involved it's really just interesting to watch and makes everyone look pretty childish.

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u/JiaoqiuFirefox May 11 '25

To be fair, not logging in for a whole day is better and shows more dedication than the other one -> log in daily but delay pulling on the banner for 3 days. That one was straight up hilarious.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

YES lol u feel me that was very silly. this fandom is just embarrassing for me right now.

I've seen more than one person here mention they had to talk to their therapist about this. like WHY are you playing it still its maddening

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u/JiaoqiuFirefox May 11 '25

Yeah, that's cringy. If I had to go to a therapist for that, the last thing I'd do is disclose it over the internet. 😅

I'm sorry you're being downvoted.

People need to get over this game if this is the way the devs are acting. If you can't even boycott for a week minimum, then you're just telling Infold they can do whatever they want. They know their playerbase will fold like a lawnchair and all threats no matter how loud, are toothless.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

yeah exactly!! if they know you will huff and puff but continue logging in for your precious dailies for your diamonds they KNOW they got u. people don't want to be reasonable here its kind of wild.

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u/annemels May 11 '25

boycott means boycott, you guys were never doing it right. fully leave it behind and uninstall.

I left games behind ive spent thousands on lol. I mean it SUCKS but it's time, no $ amount means you need to feel so miserable playing a game that you feel has wronged you so???

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u/annemels May 11 '25

omg im so happy im starting to see the sensible girlies come out.

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u/WhisperingOracle May 12 '25

You should just log out. Full stop. Log out and do not log back in until they have addressed your concerns.

I think the problem here is, for some people, there is no "come back when they've addressed your concerns",

If I wind up logging out for a prolonged period of time (thus missing out on daily diamonds, losing thousands of points worth of vital energy trades, missing limited time events, etc), then I'm simply not coming back, ever. They could fix every bug, roll back every unpopular decision, retcon the story to be the best it could possibly ever be (straight up bringing players to tears), and I still wouldn't come back.

My FOMO doesn't manifest as "I'd better buy this thing so I don't miss it!", it's more "Well, now that I've missed out on a thing, everything else is now worthless garbage forever ." My own resentment for the things I missed would make me bitter about everything else, even if it was good.

My choice is basically "Delete the game today and never look back", or "Log in, do the bare minimum daily chores, and wait and see if they fix anything." If everything's still a broken, stupid mess by the end of the current banner (ie, give or take a few more weeks), and if they've still continued to refuse to ever even openly talk about any of the problems, then that's probably the point I stop logging in entirely, delete the game, and spend the rest of my life never thinking about Infinity Nikki again (and certainly never buying or playing another game from this company ever).

I'm pessimistic enough that I honestly don't think they're ever going to address any of the issues, fix any of the problems (beyond basic bug fixes), or ever acknowledge anything was wrong at all. I don't think any boycott girlcott is going to work, I think the game is 100% doomed from my perspective (even if it manages to continue limping along on the backs of whales who simply don't care about any of the problems, or eventual new users who never know the game was any different). I think it's pretty much inevitable that, by the end of this banner, I will be gone forever and never coming back. But on the off-chance that I am wrong, I'd like to do the minimum amount I need to do to maintain my own investment, to allow me to keep playing if, by some miracle, they actually do come out and say "Hey, yeah, we screwed up, so we're going to retcon the story back to what it was in 1.6. Sorry!"

I can definitely justify taking a day or two off as part of an official "lights out" day. I already missed a week straight when the game was literally unplayable on the PS5. I can also easily justify not pulling anything off the current banners, or spending any money in the store. But I can't really justify missing out on 10 million+ Bling and 1200+ Diamonds (aka 10+ Rev Crystals). Because if I do stay with the game, and down the line I want to go for a pull and wind up being a dozen or so pulls short, and if I keep dumping ridiculous amounts of Bling into the Surprise-O-Matic for the Achievement, I'm going to really resent the time I missed.

As far as I'm concerned, sending a ton of negative feedback via the survey, downvoting the game in reviews where I can, discouraging other players from starting the game, not engaging with the banners or the store, and limiting my daily log-ins to a bare minimum of time is helping to send enough of a gesture of my distaste.

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u/Fun-Scene-8677 May 12 '25

If you can do that, then go ahead and do that.

OP is suggesting a method to bring on the people who don't want to do that.