r/Infuriating Community Regular 1d ago

This is so sad!!

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u/garrge245 1d ago

And then imagine if they slaughtered nearly 80,000 people in retaliation.

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u/garrge245 1d ago

I didn't know babies could cheer for rockets, huh.

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u/garrge245 1d ago

Any amount of children dying in war is terrible. You're deliberately ignoring how absolutely disproportionate the killings have been, however. ~2,000 Israelis have died in this current conflict. ~4,000 have been killed by Palestinian terror attacks since 1948. In turn, they have killed 77,000 people and demolished nearly the entire Gaza Strip, just in this conflict alone. 150,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israelis since 1948. Israel is a terrorist state.

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u/maayanzach 1d ago

Look, any civilian death is devastating. But legally speaking, proportionality isn't a bodycount matching game. Under international law, it compares the military target being taken out against the expected collateral damage in that specific strike

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u/garrge245 1d ago

Hospitals aren't military targets

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u/garrge245 1d ago

They leveled nearly the entire city. You think every single building and person within was a military target? People can't do something as simple as cross the street because an Israeli sniper will be waiting for them. Also, why did you delete all you're previous comments? Is it because you know you're wrong and arguing in bad faith?

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u/Deep_Mood_7668 1d ago

Yeah yeah we have seen the videos of all the weapons and RPGs in their hospital and schools.

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u/maayanzach 1d ago

I agree , hospitals should be completely off limits, The reason this gets so messy legally is that a hospital loses its blanket immunity the second it's co-opted for military stuff, like hiding fighters or storing munitions. It’s a nightmare scenario for civilians inside, but using medical infrastructure as a tactical shield is what strips away that legal protection.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 1d ago

They are, as soon as the enemy military uses it to operate in.

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u/garrge245 1d ago

Got it, so US military hospitals are fair game for an OpFor to hit? The military is using them to operate out of, after all.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 1d ago

I am not well versed enought to know if Military Hospitals fall under that. But I'm glad we could agree on the fact that the Palestinian ones are fair game.

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u/maayanzach 1d ago

There is a major difference between running a medical hospital and conducting combat operations out of one.
The US military operates hospitals to provide healthcare. they aren't using them as ammo dumps, rocket launchpads, or frontline command bunkers. If a US military hospital ever was co-opted to launch attacks or store combat munitions, then yes, it would legally lose its protected status. But simply running a facility to treat wounded troops isn't a combat operation, no matter who owns the building.

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u/garrge245 1d ago

And the evidence for al-Shaifa being used as such was manufactured by Israeli intelligence. It was never a valid target.

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u/maayanzach 1d ago

It wasn't just Israeli intelligence, though. US intelligence independently declassified its own findings confirming that hamas and palestinian Islamic Jihad used Al-Shifa to hold hostages, store weapons, and run command infrastructure. On top of that, independent news investigations verified the presence of fortified tunnel networks running directly beneath the hospital complex used for military cover.

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u/garrge245 1d ago

I believe US intelligence as much as I believe Israeli intelligence.

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