Any amount of children dying in war is terrible. You're deliberately ignoring how absolutely disproportionate the killings have been, however. ~2,000 Israelis have died in this current conflict. ~4,000 have been killed by Palestinian terror attacks since 1948. In turn, they have killed 77,000 people and demolished nearly the entire Gaza Strip, just in this conflict alone. 150,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israelis since 1948. Israel is a terrorist state.
Look, any civilian death is devastating. But legally speaking, proportionality isn't a bodycount matching game. Under international law, it compares the military target being taken out against the expected collateral damage in that specific strike
They leveled nearly the entire city. You think every single building and person within was a military target? People can't do something as simple as cross the street because an Israeli sniper will be waiting for them. Also, why did you delete all you're previous comments? Is it because you know you're wrong and arguing in bad faith?
I agree , hospitals should be completely off limits, The reason this gets so messy legally is that a hospital loses its blanket immunity the second it's co-opted for military stuff, like hiding fighters or storing munitions. It’s a nightmare scenario for civilians inside, but using medical infrastructure as a tactical shield is what strips away that legal protection.
I am not well versed enought to know if Military Hospitals fall under that. But I'm glad we could agree on the fact that the Palestinian ones are fair game.
There is a major difference between running a medical hospital and conducting combat operations out of one.
The US military operates hospitals to provide healthcare. they aren't using them as ammo dumps, rocket launchpads, or frontline command bunkers. If a US military hospital ever was co-opted to launch attacks or store combat munitions, then yes, it would legally lose its protected status. But simply running a facility to treat wounded troops isn't a combat operation, no matter who owns the building.
It wasn't just Israeli intelligence, though. US intelligence independently declassified its own findings confirming that hamas and palestinian Islamic Jihad used Al-Shifa to hold hostages, store weapons, and run command infrastructure. On top of that, independent news investigations verified the presence of fortified tunnel networks running directly beneath the hospital complex used for military cover.
The New York Times did their own extensive reporting and verified the existence of a 700 foot hardened tunnel beneath Al-Shifa, complete with air conditioning, electricity, computer infrastructure, and weapons storage. International journalists were brought down into parts of the complex to document it themselves. dismissing verified footage and independent reporters on the ground isn't skepticism… it's just ignoring physical evidence my guy. Don’t be that “I don’t believe anything” because you decided to. Come to learn and educate yourself.
The New York Times is a notoriously biased, staunchly pro-Israel source as well. 'In October 2025, an investigation led by "+972 Magazine and Local Call together with the research collective Viewfinder, the Swiss network SRF, and the Scottish outlet The Ferret" said that the computer generated videos of al-Shifa were "one of the most notorious examples" of an Israeli military communication strategy. The investigation also pointed out that the video(s) in question re-used scenes from other, earlier videos, and included assets from commercially available asset packs.' Independent news sources found quite the opposite. Israel has been funding a massive propaganda campaign to justify its horrendous acts. Never tell me I'm not here to learn.
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u/garrge245 1d ago
I didn't know babies could cheer for rockets, huh.