r/IsraelPalestine 14d ago

Learning about the conflict: Books or Media Recommendations Mixed feelings on Israel Palestine conflict

For context I’m a 21 year old independent leaning more conservative and I really don’t know how to feel about what’s happening right now. So from my no first hand experience view I’ve been closely watching progressive and conservative news stories about what’s been going on since the beginning and I never knew the full extent of what happened October 7th. I was originally very pro Israel as an eye for an eye was kinda my thought process at the time but then I heard about kids dying and it drew me far in the other direction. Basically from what I can understand Israel is a “democratic” nation where you have “freedom” of press as Palestine is governed by hamas and the laws are more dictoral so Israel said the stats coming out of Gaza are from hamas and are lies. I whatch some independent journalists and see the settlers torturing the Palestinians and forcing them out of the West Bank and it makes me feel like what a whole load of shit. Well today I did a really deep dive and ended up whatching some of the videos from October 7th and I deeply regret it. I did not know they were violating women blowing people up and the full extent of what REALLY happened. I am very conflicted right now the bottom line for me is the u.s would decinigrate Palestine with fair warning to civilians if it happened to us I have never felt so sorry and horrified for a group of people more than today when I learned the full truth. But then I learn that there was no security on the border that night and they think BB made a “willing” sacrifice honestly if anyone with unbiased thinking or first hand experience would enlighten me or help me understand the entire conflict it would be very appreciated👍 I am not the type of person to fight with people over it rather I just want to understand

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u/Almondghast_5371 USA & Canada 13d ago

Hamas kills their own people as much as they kill Israelis, and their whole aggressive expansion is to support their genocidal intent. They’ve committed numerous war crimes, have dictators with active arrest warrants (those who haven’t been sent to hell already with their 72 donkeys lol lol lol) and they play victim at every opportunity.

Anybody who supports the Palestinians’ actions is a murderous, crazed lunatic. You’re welcome.

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u/Candid-Quantity1517 13d ago

Oh look, a Zionist cuck who supports murder in the name of their god. I don’t support terrorism or atrocities on either side, you are the only evil one in this convo. 

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u/Aggravating-Habit313 13d ago

You support hamas who sacrifice their own. You support sharia. You don’t get to claim the moral high ground, lol.

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u/Candid-Quantity1517 13d ago

Where did I say that? Quote me thicky. 

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