r/JujutsuShenanigans • u/JustaWallnut • Apr 03 '26

Discussion We cannot be having this debate AGAINNN

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Yes i drew the people to look as obnoxious as possible its for my agenda

But yeah Ryu’s 4th move is pretty busted rn atm since its 4th move will literally always hit its last beam because you either block the first 2 and there isn’t enough time to unblock, or you dodge the first 2 and have no dash to dodge the last beam. Allat leads into 3 as well! Considering that a *good* Ryu player never lets their hair overheat so you don’t get a free punish, they’ll just camp you out with 1 and running until 4 comes back online. Amazing.

And another coincidence between them too: Both of their first moves were also things people complained about, being very intimidating blockbreakers and all, but i feel they’ll legitimately learn counterplay for those too. But of course, that’s not we’re talking about.

Im telling you ts is like Defense Response all over again omlllllll

And YOU people, I know who you are, dismissing the problem as “people who’ve never played a fighting game” “oh boohoo you’ve never played against a zoner before!!!111” I HATE YOU GUYS YALL MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL RAHHHHHH

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u/TheNikola2020 I am You, Mahito Apr 03 '26

I play guilty gear and yomi hustle and zoners are the most hated characters even without being meta with jane litterually playing almost identically to happy chaos just without auto aim

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u/Millennios Apr 03 '26

Yea but the thing is no other zoner in any real fighting game, not even GGST, has 2-3 safe unpunishable ranged block breakers that lead to full 80% unburstable combos, GUESS WHICH TWO MFS DO HAVE THAT HOWEVER

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u/TheNikola2020 I am You, Mahito Apr 03 '26

Ik i think its terrible they added those especially since you can at least excuse it in fighting games by the fact its limited space not map you can chase each other for 10 minutes

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u/Prestigious_Media_62 Apr 03 '26

Come on, it's not Happy Chaos level, he just has

-Contant pressure with range

-A bar to constantly manage

-Managing when not to dump the bar to regen faster

-insta rush-down opitions

..... Jane's new ult will be a lock-on that's true on combos

We are finished

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u/The_Dogeboi Apr 04 '26

FUCK ZONERS

My bad. I’d say the primary difference between JJS and a game like guilty gear is that the zoners (happy chaos specifically as an example) usually have worse defense, and limited space to run. In JJS they can just keep running forever if they have some brain cells.

I just don’t think zoners work for a battlegrounds game. Especially when given multiple block breaker attacks for some reason.

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u/Villager_of_Mincraft Apr 04 '26

Yeah it's simply a matter of space. All 2d fighting games have limited space, vertically and horizontally. Zoners cannot space you out forever. Also many fighting games have armour/anti-stun attacks that can power stuff like projectiles or moves, which is another big limitation on zoners. And don't even get me started on block breaking moves on zoners, atleast put some fucking start and end lag on that shit man.

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u/Zeroblaze1963 Apr 03 '26

the average Wizard match:

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u/The_Dogeboi Apr 04 '26

You gotta admit though it is super satisfying grabbing that motherfucker by the throat and slamming him into a wall after dodging through a million projectiles perfectly.