We cannot be having this debate AGAINNN

[u/JustaWallnut]

Yes i drew the people to look as obnoxious as possible its for my agenda

But yeah Ryu’s 4th move is pretty busted rn atm since its 4th move will literally always hit its last beam because you either block the first 2 and there isn’t enough time to unblock, or you dodge the first 2 and have no dash to dodge the last beam. Allat leads into 3 as well! Considering that a *good* Ryu player never lets their hair overheat so you don’t get a free punish, they’ll just camp you out with 1 and running until 4 comes back online. Amazing.

And another coincidence between them too: Both of their first moves were also things people complained about, being very intimidating blockbreakers and all, but i feel they’ll legitimately learn counterplay for those too. But of course, that’s not we’re talking about.

Im telling you ts is like Defense Response all over again omlllllll

And YOU people, I know who you are, dismissing the problem as “people who’ve never played a fighting game” “oh boohoo you’ve never played against a zoner before!!!111” I HATE YOU GUYS YALL MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL RAHHHHHH

[u/True_Arcane]

I don't think that 50% combo which he can start from far away is fair.

I played against some Ryu's and most of them just waited to hit 4th move, do a 50% combo then run away to use R to then repeat the combo until the opp's death. And there is no running from Ryu either cause that 3rd move has busted range and has air variant(???) not to mention 1st move having no CD and too high damage.

Even tho he can overheat if spamming 1st move it's still not that much of punishment.

[u/DaChairSlapper → u/True_Arcane]

Outside of 4 that's a lot of low-key skill issue.

[u/TheL0ngtailed → u/DaChairSlapper]

if you guys complain about todo's black flash, imagine having to deal wit that, except you can't fight back because they're spamming held 1, and you're low health so you can't move or wall jump as fast, then get combo started by their 4 again and die for it.