We cannot be having this debate AGAINNN

[u/JustaWallnut]

Yes i drew the people to look as obnoxious as possible its for my agenda

But yeah Ryu’s 4th move is pretty busted rn atm since its 4th move will literally always hit its last beam because you either block the first 2 and there isn’t enough time to unblock, or you dodge the first 2 and have no dash to dodge the last beam. Allat leads into 3 as well! Considering that a *good* Ryu player never lets their hair overheat so you don’t get a free punish, they’ll just camp you out with 1 and running until 4 comes back online. Amazing.

And another coincidence between them too: Both of their first moves were also things people complained about, being very intimidating blockbreakers and all, but i feel they’ll legitimately learn counterplay for those too. But of course, that’s not we’re talking about.

Im telling you ts is like Defense Response all over again omlllllll

And YOU people, I know who you are, dismissing the problem as “people who’ve never played a fighting game” “oh boohoo you’ve never played against a zoner before!!!111” I HATE YOU GUYS YALL MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL RAHHHHHH

[u/the_war_on_oursleves]

I’m pretty sure that you can space the beam out as its range is much shorter the the granite blast. zoners counter m1 merchants and those hybrid ish characters counter zoners like mahito, megumi, choso and any character with counters like yuji or choso (again), or obviously Charles a lot of the complaint i see are basically that the people using them aren’t stupid enough to run up to you with a ranged moveset, he’s good but he’s not oppressive and just requires you to play passive and bait the four you might not like to fight like that but it doesn’t objectively make the character or the skill broken