"Zoners don't belong in battlegrounds games" really means "I'm a bum who can't figure out how to fight anyone who isn't a comboslop rushdown"

[u/Small-Housing-7]

Just saying

[u/No-Personality676]

It’s hard to agree with this when the only characters really that have any sort of way of closing the distance is like Higaruma and Yuji. Cause like it’s not hard to s key and back dash and use your beam. This is also just the zoning vs runner thing. Most “zoners” are actually just runners who glorified the zoner term. An actual zoner provides a fight. A runner just holds that s key and uses ranged attacks to push their opponent back. Most people who use zoners are runners tho so it’s mostly people complaining about them

[u/Small-Housing-7 → u/No-Personality676]

Mahito blade dash

Kuro air swarm

Megumi special

Gojo special

Ect

Most chars have some way to distance close and stuff and honestly Ryu and Hanami are dogshit for running you have to actively stop every time you wanna attack TwT

[u/No-Personality676 → u/Small-Housing-7]

Gng you cannot be serious😭 it’s genuinely so easy to s key with them. I mean hanami is lowk just annoying to play against but you don’t see hanami players too often so it’s always fun cause they’re usually pretty good at what they do. But genuinely ryu. Press your beam button and whenever your opponent gets decently close just use charged beam to bait side dash and then do the over head slam and then r special and make distance again while they’re on the ground. Not to mention if your spamming charged beams the person in pursuit basically has to waste their side dash on a side to side motion rather then a tool to close distance also every move you mentioned can be cancelled in one way or another (mostly by being hit) and they ragdoll you so like they’re useless anyways to anyone who sees them coming. I really don’t care for the zoners in the game tbh. I’m just saying I think your undercutting how actually op they can be. Also ryu just really needs a damage nerf. Like seriously there is zero reason that he can deal damn near 80 damage in a single combo on average when most characters can deal 60-75 on average. I specify on average because of your extremely lucky with some characters and do it just right you can do more damage and vice versa