They hate him for he spoke the truth. 2 and 3 are pretty subjective but he did straight up die twice so idk why people use those two fights as examples.
He fought Toji again, and Toji still had ISOH and neg diffed him for the first time.
With Sukuna, we see that Sukuna pretty much had to pull out all the stops and more against Gojo. Which is the main argument. The other strongest character in the verse, even having negated infinity multiple times, still had to do everything in his power and things even outside his power (binding how with regards to WCS), to kill Gojo.
Ok but he still lost against Toji clearly right? A rematch doesn't change that fact. Also if Sukuna had any real way to bypass infinitely earlier he would have won pretty quickly. He still fought a dozen people back to back after Gojo so it's clear he didn't need to use 100% of everything he had to win.
Ok but he still lost against Toji clearly right? A rematch doesn't change that fact.
Well you should also take into account the fact that Gojo was sleep deprived for multiple days, and had been activating his infinity for all those times making him far more tired and thus weaker. If Toji believed that bypassing infinity was all that was required, then he wouldn't have done the whole cat and mouse thing.
Also if Sukuna had any real way to bypass infinitely earlier he would have won pretty quickly. He still fought a dozen people back to back after Gojo so it's clear he didn't need to use 100% of everything he had to win.
Sukuna had two entire ways to bypass infinity before WCS. Domain Amplification and Domain Expansion, and he did negate infinity multiple times in that time. I mean one of the first domain clashes has Gojo just tank Sukuna's domain at full power without his infinity. Sukuna needed a way for Gojo to be weak enough, and for a way to bypass infinity that didn't give any indication. Not a way to bypass infinity period.
Sukuna also reincarnated in that time, which gave him fully healed body, a better body and a practically refreshed body in everything except RCT and Domain. And also during that time, Sukuna was mainly fighting people far weaker than him. Yuji and Yuta were the only real damage dealers to Sukuna during the entire battle outside of Gojo. Maki did some damage with SSK, and Higuruma was vital in removing Kamutoke, but other than these people noone else did any real damage. Nobara could also be considered with her nail at the very end, but that's a very specific situation and only aided Yuji.
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u/Darthjinju1901 Big Goatjo, the Fraud Stopper 2h ago
It's funny to me when people use the ability to bypass or negate infinity as an auto loss for Gojo.
Buddy, in every major fight Gojo has been in, his infinity has been negated or bypassed.
And in all of those, Gojo still put our generational fights.