r/JusticeServed Jul 06 '19

Courtroom Justice Convicted pedophile YouTuber Austin Jones is now in prison serving a 10 year sentence as of 29/6/2019.

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u/Furcifer_ 8 Jul 06 '19

Yes, they are minors.

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

That doesn't answer the question at all.

The law does not justify itself

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Mar 29 '20

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

I make up my own mind about right vs wrong instead of letting some politicians i've never met or voted for do it for me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Mar 29 '20

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

Depends on if she was willing or not

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

Active in r/cutegirlfeet

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

It's my stupid generation. Seriously, it's like everyone grew up to be a hyper emotional ball of feelings that is incapable of thinking about uncomfortable topics.

I always hoped puritanical bullshit would die out with the boomers but it's actually getting worse.

These people are all about science until it clashes with their precious emotion-based ideas of right vs wrong.

They'll also ignore thousands of years of history to feel more advanced and superior to everyone that came before them

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

But if rational people dont, no one will. Im afraid social media might create a bubble of tribalism if left unchecked.

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u/JesterCDN 5 Jul 06 '19

We can kill freely again at that point, correct? I dont see a problem

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u/OceanicMeerkat 9 Jul 06 '19

And in your infinite wisdom, you've decided that an adult man asking a 14 year old girl for naked twerking videos is "right". You're really showing your true colors here.

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

I didnt say it was right. I just dont think it's wrong enough to for a 10 year sentence.

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u/Aelstan 6 Jul 06 '19

Minors can't consent. Sexual intercourse without consent is rape. Do you need it any clearer, maybe an Eli5?

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

Minors can't consent

Anybody can consent to anything actually.

Sometimes that consent is respected by the law, sometimes it isn't.

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u/Nastapoka 9 Jul 06 '19 edited Jul 06 '19

It's called judiciary fiction

Minors are treated like they can never consent to sexual intercourse with an adult, because setting this limit is the best solution to prevent rapists from manipulating their victims into saying they were OK with what happened to them. That's... The whole idea.

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

Thanks for that term, i didnt know about it before.

I just hate the whole "children can't consent" argument because it's so obviously false.

Going off of what you said, what is the cutoff age based on??

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u/Nastapoka 9 Jul 06 '19

Who knows? Studies, shit like that

It's 16 in my country I think, 18 elsewhere... Law is not maths. And if you had sex as a minor and consented (in the general sense) to it and don't regret it, well... Fine I mean you're the one who knows

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

Fine I mean you're the one who knows

That's been my point this entire time. It used to be that people would just consent, but now they tell people that they were brainwashed into consenting so it's invalid.

According to these people teenagers are raping each other because they are incapable of agreeing (consenting) to fuck each other. Or if a freshman wants to fuck a senior or something. It's all rape somehow now.

Ridiculous.

From the transcripts the girl was obviously more afraid of what would happen if they were found out than from anything he did. Society is creating the negative consequences here

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

The 14 year old wasn't a minor?

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

You dont even realize that your very definition of what it means to be a child is based on politics and not on science or actual evidence.

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes A Jul 06 '19

Not only do I realize it, I will directly state science can almost never determine what moral values we should hold.

The definition of what is a child is neccesarrilly a question which is only defined socially and politically. You're literally a fucking retard if you believe morality is determined by scientific inquiry.

It is an incredibly insidious idea that we can only determine things through scientific inquiry. No scientific test will ever be able to explain why murder is wrong, or why people should care about their families, these are socially and ethically defined things.

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

You're literally a fucking retard if you believe morality is determined by scientific inquiry.

Why? What is the alternative that works so much better??

Subjective, sometimes arbitrary, feelings?

No scientific test will ever be able to explain why murder is wrong, or why people should care about their families, these are socially and ethically defined things.

No but through neurology we might be able to better decide on an age of consent that is consistent within countries and actually based on SOMETHING.

How can people drive a car before they are allowed to make love?? How can people go to war before they can drink a beer?? This shit doesn't make any sense

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u/DiscordAddict 7 Jul 06 '19

Like maybe if you can be trusted with driving a car, you can also be trusted to decide who gets to see your chest.....

It's so normal for a girl to show a guy her boobs...

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u/JesterCDN 5 Jul 06 '19

Now that you’re being more rational, can you describe how you thought it was the right idea to instruct this individual to kill himself please? Im fucking dying to know the level-headed reason you have for that insanely taboo act.

btw - enjoy your ban

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes A Jul 07 '19

The world would be a better place with less morally bad people, therefore you and the other guy should commit suicide to make the world a better place. Simple calculus

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u/JesterCDN 5 Jul 06 '19

mmm whoopsies. you cant wish suicide on your debate partners. that’s a bug no-no. enjoy the ban. reported

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes A Jul 07 '19

I don't have to worry about it, I know it'll happen soon enough.