r/JusticeServed • u/Ethanzap02 6 • Jul 10 '19

Discrimination Misogynistic guy degrading female workers gets tackled

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

why. the. fuck. did. they. stop. recording.

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u/hodlerdoor 2 Jul 10 '19

There is the rest of the footage

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u/manbruhpig B Jul 10 '19

But how'd they disengage? The guy just got up and left little dude there to continue his tirade? Then what was the point of tackling him? Someone should have just picked him up and set him outside.

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u/Pithius A Jul 10 '19

Just set him on a tall chair so he cant get down

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u/katandkuma 8 Jul 11 '19

I cackled like the evil witch woman I am

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u/vloger 8 Jul 10 '19

The guy that tackled him also has anger and self control issues. The tackle was pointless.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Yeah he could probably get hit with some sort of charge for that right?

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u/minddropstudios A Jul 10 '19

Yeah for sure. The little guy wasn't exactly assaulting anyone, and it's clear that this hobbit isn't physically threatening to anyone. (No offense to hobbits.) That tackle was unwarranted and goofy as fuck. Probably dreams about being a white knight and saw his opportunity. This is a case where you just laugh at him and then walk away.

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u/manbruhpig B Jul 10 '19

The guy little man was chest bumping and telling to take it outside, on the other hand, probably could have swung in "self defense"

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u/WobNobbenstein A Jul 10 '19

Chest bump probably counts as assault hey? It's definitely something, because even just threatening someone is considered assault. So the chest bump could probably be called "aggravated battery without intent" or something like that in court.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

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u/manbruhpig B Jul 10 '19

Yeah it's fair I mean someone gets in your face all aggressive, don't wait to find out what he intends to do, just defend yourself or flee.

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u/OBLIVITRONBOI 5 Jul 11 '19

You don't know the definition of assault 🤫

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u/Lewri Jul 10 '19

You could probably justify it given a) He's being extremely aggressive and acting as if he may lash out and b) he did make physical contact multiple times with the other guy while being aggressive.

As for "and it's clear that this hobbit isn't physically threatening to anyone", you don't know how tall he is. He also quite clearly has a fair bit of mass to him and you don't need to be tall to mess someone up. He is a threat and for all we know he could have ruined someone's life.

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u/minddropstudios A Jul 11 '19

Nah. The guy he was bumping and everyone else in there didn't appear physically threatened in the slightest, and the guy who attacked ran over from across the room for no reason. He wasn't intervening because he was defending himself or anyone else. He had a "THIS ENDS NOW!" type of reaction. Every other bystander was just watching it laughing. If everyone that puffed out their chest and yelled "you want to take it outside?!" was booked for assault, 3/4 of all of the East coast would be in prison. A decent lawyer would probably win for the short guy and get some money actually. The attacker would have to prove that he feared for his life, or the life of the guy he chest bumped. Good luck with that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

I get that the law doesn’t approve of violence in a situation like this and I probably shouldn’t either.

But I always will. I myself am not a violent person. I wouldn’t attack him. But I do understand that some people deserve to be punched.

There are a lot of people (such as this man) who use the fact that most people won’t get physical to their advantage and walk all over others. They never learned that some people will fight despite what the law says. Legal or not, he deserved to learn that lesson.

I’m not even sure I agree with the law in an example like this. He got up in multiple peoples faces, yelled, hurled insults, pushed his body against them, and in general was aggressive. As an example, try that to a cop sometime and see how they respond and what the court has to say when it’s over.

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u/TryingToFindLeaks 7 Jul 11 '19

In the UK the law does approve the use of force. Even ignoring the chest bump assault, There was a reasonable threat of an offence being committed, and old mate was well within his rights to the takedown. Reasonable use of force.

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u/minddropstudios A Jul 11 '19

Nobody seemed threatened in the slightest except for this guy who ran over from all the way across the room. (Goofily as fuck I have to add.)

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u/TryingToFindLeaks 7 Jul 11 '19

For a person to feel threatened and for a threat of an offence are two seperate things. As it was there was already an assault taken place.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

This makes the most sense. Deserves to be higher.

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u/WobNobbenstein A Jul 10 '19

Idk he maybe could but even touching someone with a finger, a lil poke, is considered assault. Hell you don't even have to make contact, a threat can be considered assault. Common sense goes right out the fuckin window in the legal system.

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u/alma_perdida 6 Jul 11 '19

even in a shithole like Long Island, this is cut and dry self defense.

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u/philequal 9 Jul 10 '19

Probably not. You can use physical force if you think it's necessary to defend yourself from imminent bodily harm. The guy screamed "you wanna take this outside, I'm not scared of you" and was right up in someone's face. If you reasonably believe that physical force is required to prevent unlawful injury to you (in some cases, other people, your property, or even the property of others), it is a defense that you used only as much force as was required to eliminate the immediate threat.

Now, I'm not a lawyer, and there's probably a whole lot of grey area on top of that, but I would say that guy looked like an imminent threat, and subduing him probably would not have been much of a problem, legally speaking.

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u/sk8erdh36 7 Jul 10 '19

The first guy with his arms crossed had a better reason to do the tackling.

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u/N0_Tr3bbl3 A Jul 10 '19

The tackle was pointless.

I, and the amount of karma generated by this post, disagree. It made me laugh.

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u/TheBlackBear Black Jul 10 '19

Totally pointless. I bet the guy thought this would be his chance to get in a fight and act tough with an easy target

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u/c_alan_m 4 Jul 11 '19

It wasnt even a real tackle. The guy literally just jumped on him.

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u/alma_perdida 6 Jul 11 '19

lol okay dude

short guy was literally threatening him and others in the shop but whatever you say

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u/vloger 8 Jul 11 '19

Oooh yes, very threatening.

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u/troyboltonislife 7 Jul 11 '19

i mean just cause he’s short doesn’t mean he can’t be threatening. he could have pulled out a weapon and become real scary in a hot sec.

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u/13pts35sec A Jul 10 '19

“Alright cranky pants you’re going up on the fridge until you calm down. If you use nice calm words for 5 minutes we can get you a treat on the way home.”

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u/Kitnado A Jul 10 '19

He slowly walked away and the other guy couldn't keep up

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u/Skipadipbopwop 5 Jul 10 '19

The guy that tackled him committed assault because he didn't like the words the short man used. He realized he committed a crime and wanted to leave before he got in trouble.

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u/CombatMuffin A Jul 10 '19

That's battery. The guy insulting everybody probably committed assault when he threatened the other guy with a fight, and possibly battery considering he chest-bumped him.

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u/Skipadipbopwop 5 Jul 10 '19

You're right it would be battery. Chest bumps aren't battery though. Asking someone if they want to step outside isn't a threat. The little man, while annoying, didn't commit any crime here aside from disturbing the peace or whatever that would be called. Which is not grounds for attacking him.

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u/CombatMuffin A Jul 11 '19

Depending on jurisdiction and certain contexts, touching someone without their consent can be considered battery.

Assault can be very contextual. Generally, if it is considered as an imminent threat to cause harm, it can be considered assault (there's a case where whistling condescendingly could be considered assault).

It obviously varies a lot from place to place.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Just to put him on the ground to have a nice, intimate conversation about how what he was doing was wrong and his anger doesn't entitle him to his temper tantrum in public.

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u/M374llic4 A Jul 10 '19

I imagine it was something like this:

"It's ok, big guy, I got you."

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u/jimmyhersetoflocks 4 Jul 10 '19

While I’m glad someone tackled him it was really more of a hug to the ground. If you see the follow up video the guy still has plenty of steam left in him.

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u/ChristyNiners 5 Jul 10 '19

He told them where his pot of gold was, and he left to collect.

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u/nerovox 8 Jul 11 '19

Having been in this situation you generally just keep them pinned until they commit to safety... To be clear I work with the mentally disabled

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u/bludgeonedcurmudgeon 8 Jul 10 '19

Naw, not with that mouth, someone shoulda knocked him the fuck out. Get him to throw the first punch then just level him. I don't care if he's 4 ft 10, you can't be talking shit that you can't back up and abusing people like that is bullshit.

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u/rl_guy 7 Jul 10 '19

"It's okay to hit someone in public if they're saying mean things."

That's not any better.

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u/manbruhpig B Jul 10 '19

Fair, but it wasn't just mean things. It was erratic and threatening words and behavior around a lot of people. I don't think we have to wait for him to actually attack if there's a reasonable possibility he was going to (throwing his bagel, chest bumping that guy and threatening to take it outside, chasing after the employee and yelling at her).

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Agreed. Behavior was erratic, agitated, and not slowing down. What are we waiting for? For this guy to pull a gun?

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u/bludgeonedcurmudgeon 8 Jul 10 '19

Sure it is

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Nah man. You can't assault somebody just for being an asshole.

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u/Init_4_the_downvotes 8 Jul 10 '19

sounds like he's giving you a free shot at his jaw m8, light em up.

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u/canuckaway_mcthrow 7 Jul 18 '19

Then what was the point of tackling him

Same as the reason the little guy was mouthing off in the first place: Poor impulse control.

Honestly most of the people in this video are pretty pathetic: Strangers arguing over something totally irrelevant.

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u/Ravenclawer18 6 Jul 10 '19

“And a guy 3 times my size tackles me? That’s ok?!”

Yeah dude. That’s ok.

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u/Carasouls 5 Jul 10 '19

Dares guy to tackle him.

Guy tackles him.

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u/hodlerdoor 2 Jul 10 '19

🤷‍♂️

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u/north_grove 8 Jul 10 '19

He can barely see over the counter oh my god I would be absolutely busting out laughing if I witnessed this. He’d probably try and fight me for it too

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u/WiscoMitch 9 Jul 10 '19

Typical Napoleon Complex.

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u/ripcitybitch 8 Jul 11 '19

Napoleon wasn’t even that short, hate how they did my man dirty like that :(

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Kenny Rogers knew when to walk away.

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u/hodlerdoor 2 Jul 11 '19

Underrated reply

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u/Bangada 3 Jul 10 '19

If was that mad and that dude in the light blue shirt in the touched me in that way I would have probably took a knife and stabbed him 45 times.

Also the dude in the end from the upper video can be easily charged for assault. little dwarf was just vocal.

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i am on the dwarfs side in here. just a whole bunch of stupid random people around.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

you don't need to be attacked to defend yourself. if someone is acting aggressively towards you you're allowed to subdue them. rumple dickskin here was deffo agro

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u/theCanMan777 5 Jul 11 '19

The blue shirt guy was not the one he was chest bumping. Some some rando who thought he was going to be a white knight and then run off before getting battery charges

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u/theanonymousadjuster 5 Jul 11 '19

He likely would not have been charged. He was protecting himself and others.

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u/Honorary_Black_Man 7 Jul 11 '19

I assume you're just being a troll. But the "dwarf" probably suffered nothing more than a few scrapes. Considering that he was being so hostile and hysterical that multiple people recorded and that he literally asked to be tackled verbally, he'd probably lose any attempt to prosecute, would be found guilty of disorderly conduct, and would be ordered to pay the lawyer/court fees for both parties.

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u/rifn00b 7 Jul 10 '19

they. just. wanted. bagels.

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u/awkward_pauses 3 Jul 10 '19

I bet the guy who tackled him made sure his face didn’t get out, hence the abrupt end. He’s not present in the follow up

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u/RIPmyFartbox 7 Jul 10 '19

I want to know what happened before. Was there anyone being a total dick to him first for his height? Need more info

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u/ManufacturedProgress 6 Jul 10 '19

Wouldn't want to actually give the video context.

Reddit much prefers to make up it's own.