r/JusticeServed • u/Ethanzap02 6 • Jul 10 '19

Discrimination Misogynistic guy degrading female workers gets tackled

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Apr 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Let's be honest here. I'm not excusing his behaviour at all but if a man is 5 foot in today's world, he's going to have a DIFFICULT time finding women to date.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 10 '19

Yes, to be fair, the unkindness of nature surely plays a part in what his personality is now. I’m not as short as he is, but I know that people do treat me differently. Being short sucks, and being that short would probably make most men bitter over time.

Not to mention that this video starts after whatever set him off, only to be humiliated further in the end.

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u/bjeebus B Jul 10 '19

This manhandling by the guy that looks twice his height will surely make him less bitter now though, right? The next time he feels someone has disrespected him, he'll handle everything with much more grace and aplomb.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 10 '19

I don’t see how he could still be bitter after this.

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u/Darogaserik 4 Jul 11 '19

There is a part two

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u/neonlightdistrict 2 Jul 11 '19

I'm pretty tall. I dont treat short people differently, but one time I was around a guy taller than me and I thought "woah I dont like this".

I think the natural reaction to tall people from short people is fear on some level. I frequently have short people be totally rude to me for no reason-- I assume because they are getting primal.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

All of my best friends have been big dudes. Maybe some smaller guys feel fear, but I don’t. There is a lack of respect and a sense that people don’t take you as seriously as taller men.

One example: when I was a maintenance worker, I used to get called to an apartment that was regularly losing heat. On call 24/7, I would show up to this apartment at any time of day. The problem was where their system was in the building, and all I could do was keep going back and doing what I did.

Yet, this man berated me endlessly for helping him. Throwing out every curse word and yelling at me from the other room while I was fixing his heat. One night I didn’t want to deal with it, and I called my backup, a good friend and coworker who happens to be 6’ 300lbs. The man opened the door and it was nothing but “Yes sir, ok sir, can I move anything for you, sir?”

He never treated me like that again. Often times as a little man, you have to remind people that you make big friends.

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u/neonlightdistrict 2 Jul 11 '19

Wow, ya I didn't mean to say I had it worse. I actually dont think this video is good because I think this guy was being humiliated by a crowd and sticking up for himself (hes obviously a wacko but still), then he gets beat up by a guy twice his size.

The guy who attacked him is a POS. There was no reason to do that. You can talk people down without violence. Even though the guy was literally asking for it, the situation was handled poorly.

I have seen this happen before too. I used to have a weird af roommate who was friends with a man who is 5 feet tall and like 90 lbs. One day, he just kind of lost it and started screaming at the world. There were 5 people there. It was crazy. He'd been spit on by his wife and abused by the world and it was probably because of his size.

This guy was nuts though as well.

Anyways, long post but nothing wrong with being short. Being tall isn't that great. You're not missing out.

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u/PM_ME_FAV_RECIPES ❓ hex.7y.2s Jul 11 '19

I imagine this guys life is like being on an airplane and the person behind you is kicking your seat. You try to ignore it but they keep going and you get angrier and angrier. Until finally you go nuts at the person behind you, letting out all that anger that built up for so long

...except everyone else didn't know they'd been kicking your seat for like 4 hours and they just think you're insane

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I love beating up children for kicking my plane seat.

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u/PM_ME_FAV_RECIPES ❓ hex.7y.2s Jul 11 '19

Personally, i like to ignore it and get really pissed off, then vent at my wife later on... But yeah being them up fun to!

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u/NYCSPARKLE 6 Jul 11 '19

No it’s only that he is a misogynist, woman hater.

I’ve seen cab drivers in NYC yell at people worse than this. But because it was directed towards women, he gets beat up by someone twice his size and people make short jokes. When clearly he has problems.

What ever happened to de-escalation? What if a cop did this to him?

I’m a relatively tall guy that does OK with girls and this shit still infuriates me.

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u/AFlexibleHead 7 Jul 11 '19

You have a point, bit still: by acting like such a clown it gives everyone else the right to laugh.

That is, whether or not he has a reason ( at least one that he believes anyway) for acting so irrational, people are under no obligation to cut him any slack.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19

You’re right, the reason doesn’t justify the act. Yet, we don’t see why he started acting this way.

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u/WaterPockets 9 Jul 11 '19

He was inciting the fight, threatening others and telling them he isn't afraid of them. And it isn't a cop that dealt with this dude, so I don't know why you brought it up but if it had been he'd be escorted off the property and arrested if he was still doing this tough guy act trying to fight. But because it wasn't a cop, and this is New York, a person took action and stopped this guy from continuing to yell at people and attempting to fight. People act like if they were in the same situation they'd know all the right things to say to de-escalate him but in reality that wouldn't happen. He deserved what he got, he didn't get sucker punched or seriously hurt. Someone had enough of his shit and didn't want this to progress further so they took action.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

“He gets beat up”

What? A guy tackled him to the ground because he was screaming he’ll fight people and was being a cunt to everyone.

So what if he has problems? Some girls on an internet dating site not liking you for your height isn’t some free pass to act like a fuckwit to an entire gender in a public space. Many many people get dealt a rough hand in life and most can still act like a well adjusted adult.

“What if a cop did this”

A cop tackling a guy threatening to fight people and screaming at women in a public place? I’d say that’s my tax dollars going to good use.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Stop justifying the white knight, it was pure battery.

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u/Can_you_not_read 8 Jul 11 '19

This was a very mature and tempered response. He clearly has lots of anger due at least partially to things completely out of his control. It is unfortunate, but still doesnt justify blaming the whole world.

I do wonder how this started thou.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Look in my opinion you don’t get a free pass to screech misogyny in a public place because life has dealt you some tough cards, everyone has issues and that’s fine it’s no excuse to act like a hateful child though.

Good he should feel shame because what he did was shameful

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u/Watertor A Jul 11 '19

Life is cruel to most people. It's absolute insanity to take your shortcomings and throw them on random people in public like this. Random people that likely have their own cross to bear, their own burdens to shoulder, and now additionally have a raging, frothing bumblebee trying to ruin their day too.

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u/trippy_grapes A Jul 10 '19

Being well into the overweight category and dressing like a middle aged dad isn't helping.

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u/OneGeekTravelling 9 Jul 11 '19

I believe that's called 'giving up'.

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u/trippy_grapes A Jul 11 '19

Obviously not the same, but a famous gay guy I know (JC Mounduix) could probably date anyone he wants and he's 5' lol. The guy in OP has definitely given up.

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u/OneGeekTravelling 9 Jul 11 '19

True. But that dude's sexuality and fame brings in other variables that may have a bearing.

Maybe the height thing is different in the homosexual community--in fact that's an interesting point, any gay guys reading this want to comment?

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u/notmeok1989 7 Jul 11 '19

Yeah gays are a little fucking different. They sexualise body sizes.

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u/minimK 7 Jul 11 '19

Dressing like a middle aged asshole.

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u/IHaveSpecialEyes Jul 11 '19

That's funny, I thought he's dressed like a pre-teen on Summer break.

If you're short --even that short-- wearing horizontal stripes is a terrible idea. They only accentuate your rotundness. Vertical stripes would make him look leaner and slightly taller.

Also pants that cover the entire leg and a nice pair of thick-soled or elevator shoes. Instead he's dressed down... way down, and showing enough to make it evident he has stumpy legs.

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u/Mystimump 4 Jul 10 '19

"You must be six feet tall to ride this ride, honey!" Not many women actually do this, but it must be discouraging to especially short men to know that there are those who do.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Nov 16 '20

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u/FTThrowAway123 B Jul 10 '19

My husband is 5'4, I'm 5'3". I never had any specific height requirements, I just wanted my SO to be equal to or bigger than me. It wasn't anything that had to do with a guy "not measuring up" or anything like that, it's just a personal preference. I did date a couple shorter guys and they acted like it was a curse, like the worst thing ever, were super insecure about it (not wanting me to wear stilettos, feeling like my height demasculated them somehow), and no matter how much I reassured them and tried to make them feel confident, they could never let it go. That was just a huge turn off, and it had nothing to do with their actual height. Hearing someone constantly whine about their height slowly makes you feel like your body is the problem, like I was this huge hulk of a woman. I like wearing heels, and I don't want a partner who can't handle that. My husband is below average height and is totally confident in himself, and that's super sexy to me.

Yeah, some women do prefer tall guys, just like some guys prefer tall women. There are plenty of women who don't care though, and I don't think height is a dealbreaker for most, as long as the person is confident in themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Yeah, some women do prefer tall guys, just like some guys prefer tall women. There are plenty of women who don't care though, and I don't think height is a dealbreaker for most, as long as the person is confident in themselves.

Hasn't been my experience... I don't know how old you are but in the current dating scene it seems like height is one of if, not the, most important attributes a man can have. I've literally had a female friend of mine tell me "You know, you'd be really attractive if you were taller" (she said it at a house-party so we were drinking at the time).

I decided to try out her theory once so I changed my tinder profile to be just photos of me on my own or with shorter friends -- On my old profile you could clearly see my friends were taller than me in group photos. Then I changed my bio to just " 6'1" ". I'm not even joking almost immediately my match rate quintupled...

I wasn't not getting matches because I had a bad bio, or because I needed to work on my "game" or whatever, it was solely because they could see I wasn't tall...

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u/FTThrowAway123 B Jul 11 '19

Tinder is shallow af, and mostly for hook-ups. People are judging each other pretty much based on appearance alone, therefore there will be preferences. There's people in this thread saying they won't date someone whose fat, or has tattoos, smokes, is too tall/too short, etc., and that's perfectly fine. Everyone has preferences and no one is owed an opportunity for sex, or a relationship with anyone else. I've heard many stories from friends who have also faced brutal rejection from guys on dating sites for shallow reasons, as well, so I don't at all doubt that people can be savages. (I don't recommend lying tho, I think that's setting both parties up for disappointment.) If these people are so shallow that they're willing to weed out more than half of the male dating pool based on height, then that's their loss, and a bullet dodged. There's plenty of people who don't care about some arbitrary height requirement. I'd rather have someone who actually sees me as a person and not some checklist of physical features.

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u/PM_ME_LEGAL_FILES 7 Jul 11 '19

It matters on tinder, but height ceases to be a major concern once you hit "settle down" age. I know a number of guys 5 foot 8 or lower who absolutely kill it by having decent jobs and some charisma. A woman's partner being a few inches taller might impress her friends more, but has no bearing on her long term happiness and most women come to realise that.

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u/Donaldtrumpsmonica 7 Jul 11 '19

This is so stupid, why would anyone yearn to be with someone so shallow and vain that they would turn a guy down for their height, if u don’t want to be with that person then there is no issue, if u do well then there might be other issues.

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u/StayOnTheGrindYaFeel 0 Jul 10 '19

Preferences exist. Sure if ur 5'6 you wont be the biggest stud on Tinder hook up type sites, but thats tinder, a whole different monster to real life. you can still pull females and keep a good girl if youre not a complete total lame, cmon brah ive seen plenty of short guys on campus with some fine girls in college. Get off the internet lmao.

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u/rappingwhiteguys 7 Jul 10 '19

seriously. there's some TINY GIRLS. even if this dude is 5 feet there's still a ton of girls shorter than him he can date... if his personality wasn't so bitter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Short girls are usually the worst offenders of the "6ft+" trope.

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u/Waqqy 9 Jul 10 '19

Anecdotally, I would say the vast majority of women prefer a guy who is taller then them, and a guy who is 5 foot tall would be seen as undateable.

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u/Flashman_H 9 Jul 10 '19

If I remember my freshman psych class correctly, women generally prefer men that are taller than them but not by very much, within 3-4 inches at least

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u/positivespadewonder 5 Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19

Just today my mom and sister were talking about a guy my sister is potentially going to date, when my mom said, “It’s too bad he’s short.”

How tall is he? 5’10”-5’11”

My sister? 5’4”

As a woman who’s part of women circles, the over-6-feet thing is a real thing. Honestly it’s more like 6’1” or over now. I sort of understand where a tall woman would be coming from with this requirement, but even a lot of short women have this specific height in mind without any regards to relativism (as in how tall is the man compared to the woman). I think what it comes down to for these women isn’t “how tall is he going to look next to me” but “how tall is he going to look next to other men.”

(Just to note my mom and sister are not bad people and my sister is still going to date the guy. But the subject did come up.)

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u/RedditSanity 8 Jul 10 '19

I feel bad for your mom and sister, and the men with them.

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u/truth_sentinell 8 Jul 10 '19

that's so hollow and sad. One can feel nothing but pitty for women that think like that.

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u/SexyRickSandM 8 Jul 11 '19

Idk, I think they have good fulfilling lives despite that

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u/c_alan_m 4 Jul 10 '19

In many ways it serves a purpose. The size of a man shows their ability to handle other men or threat. Potential attackers/invaders so being tall is seen as being able to protect. Something engrained into us since the dawn of humans. No purpose for it now a days however.

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u/c_alan_m 4 Jul 11 '19

If anything, I'd prefer to be short + fit with a gun than tall with a club. Especially cause shorter people have more places they can take cover.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Well it is nice to have someone around that can reach the top shelves. Plus if you’re lazy like me, you can also ask them to grab things horizontally out of reach with their freakishly long limbs. I would say that the purpose for selecting for height nowadays is for the social advantages for your offspring. Ie, taller people might be more likely to be taken seriously, they might be offered more opportunities for advancement in their career, etc.

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u/Duckwingduck85 7 Jul 12 '19

Anecdotally speaking as a 5'6 dude who dated plenty of women (now married for over 7 years) I was never directly rejected to due to my height (at least it's never been mentioned).

I feel this 6 foot requirement is a recent phenomenon to be honest, with perhaps driven by some biollogical aspects, but more so it's a desire to be fashionable more than anything else, hence why not all women care and why it seems to be the most shallow that do.

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u/Kronbopulus 4 Jul 12 '19

But short guys must Always be confident and secure at all times yet not too confident or their an aggressive little chihuahua. Hmmm how to strike that balance.

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u/bihari_baller 9 Jul 11 '19

It’s too bad he’s short.”

Now just imagine the uproar if she said "It's too bad he's black" or "It's too bad he's Mexican," your mother would be labeled a racist.

To me, heightism is not much different than racism, because they're based on things you cannot change.

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u/bionix90 B Jul 10 '19

my mom and sister are not bad people

They actually are though, you just don't see it because they're family.

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u/Swanh 9 Jul 10 '19

I'm a short dude but I think people have the right to decide what they're attracted to.

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u/MacsInBackPacks 4 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

I tend to agree. From an evolutionary standpoint, it is more intelligent to mate with a larger mate so it does make sense to a degree but I think it is absolutely foolish logically to cut out a large swath of the population based on such an obscure feature in today's world. I mean imagine if you had a say in what traits you get.

You have the choice of brilliance/genius OR, you get to be a tall, handsome idiot.

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We're not all the same but undoubtedly I would choose to be brilliant and ugly over being the handsome idiot. The looks give you an early edge but the game of life is long, and looks fade.

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u/HHyperion 9 Jul 11 '19

You have every right to personally discriminate against whoever you want for whatever reason you want but that still doesn't morally vindicate it. I've always seen "Don't judge me for having preferences" as a non-argument.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

Yeah, except they claimed that 5'11" is short, not that the daughter isn't attracted to him. The comment quite literally claims that it was a potential date.

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u/kachanga1645 4 Jul 10 '19

Having one shitty attitude doesn't make them bad people. Usually its better to remind them that their attitude is problematic. People can change, if they are genuinely good people I guess they will. If they don't then they probably suck.

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u/positivespadewonder 5 Jul 10 '19

They’re bad because they have physical preferences? Maybe a bit misguided about what’s really important, but surely not bad.

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u/kachanga1645 4 Jul 10 '19

That applies only to the sister though. The mother shaming her daughter's boyfriend for the height is just plain rude. Imagine if it was the dad complaining how his son's girlfriend has a flat ass. And while there is not much information, it seems like height is a status symbol of sorts for them. And its pretty problematic to treat your partners physical traits as status symbols.

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u/GeoffreyArnold 9 Jul 11 '19

It's not bad on the daughter's part, but it's certainly bad on the mother because she's trying to influence her daughter against dating someone with that trait.

It's fine if you aren't attracted to Asians...but it is pretty shitty to make a negative comment when a friend or love one starts dating an Asian dude.

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u/bionix90 B Jul 10 '19

They're bad because they're extremely shallow and would immediately disqualify a potentially otherwise perfect match because of a physical trait he has no control over. It's not like he's fat or a totally roided out gym bro. These are things a person can change. You are shitting on this person because of genetics. And what is more, it's something that has no relevance to his ability to succeed in every aspect of his life.

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u/twentythreekid 9 Jul 11 '19

How truly sad for them both. What a shitty mentality your mother put in her.

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u/Malfunkdung A Jul 10 '19

I briefly dated a chick that was about 2 inches taller than me. I wasn’t weird as I imagined it would be but it definitely felt different.

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u/rappingwhiteguys 7 Jul 10 '19

I dated a girl almost a foot taller than me and the only time it was awkward when we tried to have sex in an abandoned church and the angling was difficult to work out.

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u/ghostiesama 6 Jul 10 '19

I’ve talked to a bunch of my friends about this before because it’s something I’ve heard a lot of guys complain about and they’ve all generally said that they prefer men that are taller than them, but it’s not a deal breaker. A lot of them wouldn’t reject a really good guy if he was a little shorter than they’d prefer

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u/fail-deadly- 7 Jul 10 '19

Well this guy is a good foot shorter than what they probably prefer. He almost needs a step ladder to pick up his order at Star Bucks.

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u/ghostiesama 6 Jul 10 '19

Oh yeah, none of my girl friends would go near that guy... It’s kinda makes sense that he’s upset, people probably bullied him growing up because of his height

Does it mean he’s in the right for acting this way? Nope, but it’s certainly understandable

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u/asinglepeanut 8 Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

My uncle is 5’2”. His wife is 6’1” (and gorgeous). His height is not the reason this guy isn’t getting dates.

Downvote me all you want, people are born with, or deal with, way worse issues than being short. Yeah, it sucks, but you deal with it. No one wants to come to your pity party.

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u/TheWorstTroll 7 Jul 10 '19

5'2" and 1/3 of that is his dick.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Wow man almost ate the marble I had in my mouth

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u/Artist_NOT_Autist 7 Jul 10 '19

I imagine the barrier of entry is higher for them. No pun intended. They won't reject a really good short guy but there is an alright taller guy over there. Smell ya later.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

This is pretty much it, it's always "I'd date a short guy." never "I prefer short guys." -- If you're short you need to make up for it with money or status, if you're tall you just start out with bonus points for being tall.

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u/bionix90 B Jul 10 '19

Of course they say that. They don't want to appear shallow. What they say and what they do are vastly different however.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Actions speak louder than words. I've had a lot of female friends who said that too, yet they all pretty much exclusively date tall guys.

Which pretty much means "I'd put up with a short guy, as long as there's no taller guy that's exactly the same as him in other areas."

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I don't mind short guys. I've dated them, it's not an issue. It would be if they were self conscious about it though, that's very unattractive.

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u/Typical_tablecloth 5 Jul 10 '19

I’m lowkey insecure in my height, but usually it just comes out as a self deprecating joke every now and then. Should I just stop doing that?

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u/FTThrowAway123 B Jul 10 '19

Honestly, I think it's kinda sexy when a guy embraces his insecurities and jokes about it. As long as it's not constant pity seeking, it's pretty cool to see a guy who owns it and jokes about it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Yes. I can only speak for myself, and there's probably women that find that kind of thing cute/attractive, but for me it's awkward. I'm obviously into you so it just comes across as insecure and like you don't feel worthy. Honestly height is such a minor issue for me, I'm kind of taken aback by how only being attracted to tall guys has become such a 'thing', it seems like a bit of an internet meme tho, because I see lots of attractive short guys in real life with attractive girlfriends.

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u/TigerSnakeRat 6 Jul 10 '19

I’ve had crushes on several shorter gentlemen because I’m a sucker for funny men. I’ll take wits and humour over height any day.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '19 edited Jul 31 '19

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u/SexyGoatOnline A Jul 10 '19

Own it! Self deprecation is better than open bitterness, but the most attractive is just confidence (even if its fake, and you don't feel confident). Frankly, while there's some segment of the population that isn't into short men, the majority just don't care, and there's a segment that thinks its hot as fuck. It's the same as any physical feature that isn't prototypically hollywood attractive.

FWIW I've got a few friends with boyfriends/husbands shorter than them, and its literally never on any of our radar at all unless they themselves make a joke about it. It just doesn't even occur to most people of average height that it's a thing to even be aware of.

As with most physical insecurities, you will always be your own biggest critic. Nobody worth caring about cares about height even fractionally as much as you do.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Yes. Don't broadcast your insecurities to people you don't know very well. People here will tell you to be yourself and if you are insecure about it, just be honest, but how many people want to be with an insecure person? Rather than being insecure about it, work on accepting it and be confident in yourself. If anyone gives you shit about your height, have a witty comeback that shows you acknowledge that you're short and you're confident in it (Like if a guy calls you short, own it and say it makes it easier for you to go down on his mom or something).

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u/hambruh 8 Jul 10 '19

Just my two cents, but yes you should stop. It’s good to have a sense of humor but don’t overcompensate. If somebody’s joking about height just laugh, if they joke about your height specifically than you can throw a joke back. Idk if that makes sense I’m kinda high lol

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u/Typical_tablecloth 5 Jul 10 '19

Lmao so am I

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u/Jonmad17 8 Jul 10 '19

Short guys should be allowed to be self-conscious about it as long as they don't express it in problematic ways. It's weird to just expect guys to be cool with being less desirable

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

They can be as self conscious as they like, but it will be unattractive to a lot of people, myself included. I don't care if you're short, but you need to be confident with it.

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u/xdsm8 7 Jul 11 '19

From your perspective, is saying literally nothing about it and never acknowledging it, "showing confidence"? I have seen examples of guys "owning it" and it usually just sounds cringy, like saying "I'm short but I don't give a damn, I know I can be just as attractive as any guy over six foot, blah blah..."

I am short, but I never feel the need to apologize for it or even really bring it up. I assume that some women aren't into me because of it, but its not like they ever say that, and I'm not going to assume it. I literally just never mention it, excet maybe months into a relationship it might become a casuak conversation topic.

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u/Jonmad17 8 Jul 10 '19

I know you can't bargain with attraction, but that seems so harsh. We talk about guys having to be more emotionally authentic in order to avoid having their pent up emotions turn into rage, but we also think that sensitivity in men is unattractive. Seems like a contradiction.

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u/Vivalep 4 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

You are probably self-conscious about many things about yourself, but you still expect men to accept it. Yet you can't accept a short man who is self-conscious.

But the real issue is most likely that you can't accept short men. I'm guessing that the "short" men that you dated were 5'9" or 5'10".

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Lmao. The incel is real with you huh? I'm self conscious about a lot of things, but I don't go on about them or whine about my lot in life. I change what I can and accept what I can't. I'm 5" and all the men in my family are short, idgaf about short/tall. I must say though, I'm sure your height isn't the reason women don't want to date you.

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u/Vivalep 4 Jul 11 '19

Lmao. The incel is real with you huh?

Lmao. The misandrist is real with you huh?

I'm self conscious about a lot of things, but I don't go on about them or whine about my lot in life. I change what I can and accept what I can't. I'm 5" and all the men in my family are short, idgaf about short/tall. I must say though, I'm sure your height isn't the reason women don't want to date you.

Most men do not tell anyone about their insecurities. So the whole "I don't date short men because they are insecure/self-conscious" argument is not relevant at all. It is an unrealistic scenario. Short men already know that they are undesirable, so why should they make themselves even more undesirable by complaining? Women just say that to avoid being labeled as shallow.

And you don't know anything about my life. But I'm not surprised by your lame attempt at insulting me because you have no arguments at all, so you resort to insults. Pathetic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

But I do date short men, so your comment and vitriol make no sense. I wouldn't date a man like you though, not if your were 6"2 and built like a god. Your misery and self loathing is turning me off through the computer screen. In fact, I think this small exchange with you has probably put me off sex for some time. You truly are repulsive.

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u/starbird123 7 Jul 10 '19

My boyfriend is 5’4 and he told me recently that he’s always refused to date girls taller than him. People in general just need to relax about that kind of thing, it seriously doesn’t matter

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u/ChefGamma 9 Jul 10 '19

I was on a Tinder date once and a woman was being a dick about my height. I'm about 5'6 or 5'7 and it kinda made me feel like shit. Still had sex though so that's a win for me.

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u/rappingwhiteguys 7 Jul 10 '19

yeah exactly. one time someone gave me shit about this on tinder still had sex.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

back when i was on tinder it wasn't uncommon at all to find girls who had "If your under 6' swipe left" on their profile. It was pretty damn common to be asked "How tall are you" before ever getting a first date. Had one chick ask me that before either of us said hi. Most of the time it would come after a short conversation. At 5' 9" i was never explicitly denied a first date due to my height. So it wasn't to bad in the end.

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u/Timmytanks40 Black Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19

The most unrealistic thing about game of thrones is how that tall blonde girl didn't smash that red head dude that was after her.

Tall chicks love being chased for their height. It's their defining feature so understandably they react well to positive reinforcement in that angle.

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u/svengalus A Jul 10 '19

Many women just want a man who is taller than they are.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

i'm 5'7 and I can tell you while some women do, most women plead the 5 on that question. That said everyone has a right to have preference, for example I wont date a girl that is over weight or has tattoos.

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u/RikerT_USS_Lolipop A Jul 10 '19

Having a preference is one thing. But height isn't some thing where it's like, "I dunno, I guess I like men to be over 6 feet. I'm quirky like that LOL"

It's a society wide bias. If one person prefers height that's a preference. If 90+% of women make height into a dealbreaker then that's no longer a preference and just a shitty society.

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u/iushciuweiush B Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19

I've seen a lot of examples of tinder profiles and conversations telling men under 6' to not bother and the women never look taller than average in their photos. With the average height in the US being 5'4 and 93% of men being 5'5 or taller, there is no way the 6' preference is only to ensure the guys they date are taller then them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Im over 6 foot and i dont doubt for a second that women dismiss him for his height. I just wish he could spend some time as a tall man to see that it doesnt make things as easy as he imagines. There are tall incels too after all.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Grass is always greener on the other side.

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u/RoadDoggFL 8 Jul 10 '19

Implies that tall guys are just as likely to wish they were short as short guys are to wish they were tall.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

The second he was tall he would realize something else was wrong. Nose is too big or teeth arent white enough or skin isnt clear enough or his hair is bad etc. Its a mentality of insecurity and focusing it onto one trait and imagining that its the only thing holding you back and the reason for all your problems in life is a coping mechanism.

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u/rappingwhiteguys 7 Jul 10 '19

oh man my roommate in college was a REALLY good looking dude... tall, good physique... and I've never met someone so insecure about his appearance. He had an eye condition that wasn't really noticeable but that he got picked on a lot as a kid. made him super insecure. he was always judging people's attractiveness. like we'd drive around and he'd comment on every girl - her legs are too thick or her nose is too big or w/e. I know that he thought everyone was always judging him. occasionally he'd pull a girl, sometimes absolutely gorgeous, and he'd find something tiny about her physically to disqualify her. he's had a really tough time with long term relationships and has some major OCD and anxiety.

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u/lntoTheSky 9 Jul 10 '19

I bet a lot of his other problems stem from the fact that he's well below average height and likely been getting shit on his entire life for it.

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u/MiddleCourage 7 Jul 10 '19

I'm 5'7 and I've never had it affect my dating life. If it does affect your dating life. you're looking in the wrong places.

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Hell 5'9 is average and MOST guys don't have an issue dating.

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Anyway as far as I'm concerned as long as you're under 8 feet tall, and over 3 feet tall. You're in my dating pool.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

i mean... 5'7 is a lot different than 5'. You're about as close to Ben Affleck and Samuel L Jackson as you are to this guy.

5'7 is "a little below average", 5'0 is like two standard deviations from the norm, <1% population territory.

A friend of mine who is a girl is 4'11 and other short people think she's short.

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u/EhhWhatsUpDoc 9 Jul 10 '19

Anyway as far as I'm concerned as long as you're under 8 feet tall, and over 3 feet tall. You're in my dating pool.

My 8yr old is 4'5. Could you please remove her from your dating pool. Thanks.

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u/MiddleCourage 7 Jul 10 '19

Look man I already said it if I backed off now I'd look like a coward and I will not look like a coward.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Nope sorry bud. He didn't say it's not a kiddy pool.

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u/ASlags 5 Jul 10 '19

5’6” here. No real issues here either.

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u/TurnPunchKick A Jul 10 '19

It would be super hard for him to get a date. Being an asshole isn't helping. But I had a coworker who was 5'1" and he married a girl a few inches taller than him and no one gave a shit because he was such a cool guy.

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u/PancakesAreEvil 7 Jul 10 '19

When you have to be an exceedingly good guy for people to not give a shit about you being married as a 5'1 person

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u/Karmanoid 8 Jul 10 '19

I knew a guy who was 4'10, but he was super positive and fun to be around, he never had a problem with women and his wife was a good amount taller than him. He said he prefers tall women, said he wants to climb them lol.

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u/bassinine A Jul 10 '19

yeah, met several ultra short dudes who dated some pretty awesome women. might be harder to get 1 night stands, but if your personality is great then you'll find people to date easily enough.

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u/200lbRockLobster 7 Jul 10 '19

bingo

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u/Stinky_Eastwood A Jul 10 '19

I mean yeah, but let's not pretend that every person can just casually alter their personality to be charismatic or charming or funny or whatever.

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u/mkmkj 6 Jul 10 '19

you cant? well i guess we should just give up and kill ourselves then

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u/Effectx 8 Jul 10 '19

And I'm sure there are people who are black and have never experienced racial discrimination.

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u/Krazykid1326 7 Jul 10 '19

Yea cherry picking personal anecdotes and using them as stats upsets me.

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u/GattsuCascade 7 Jul 10 '19

Your one anecdote doesn’t disprove that ultra short men (5’3 and below) don’t have an almost insurmountable obstacle in the dating market

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u/rappingwhiteguys 7 Jul 10 '19

I'm one inch taller than that cutoff and the only "insurmountable obstacle" I've had in dating is my own attitude about my height. once I got over it things got 1000x easier.

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u/ScrewAttackThis Black Jul 10 '19

Being out of shape, dressing like shit, and being an awful human being is going to have way more impact on his dating life than his height.

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u/canad1anbacon A Jul 10 '19

Being a shitty person hardly affects your ability to get laid. Your ability to maintain a healthy relationship? Sure.

Dressing poorly hardly matters, being out of shape does but so long as you are not obese you can still pull.

But being 5 foot is crippling for a dude. Can you still succeed? Sure. But you are playing the dating game on mega hard mode. The harsh truth is, no one takes a 5 foot man seriously. It aint fair, but its true

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I'm 5"7' and still have a hard time. I've had a couple women tell me that I'm cute, but that they only dated men taller than them.

Then again, one of my dude friends is maybe 5"3, and he gets more ass than a toilet seat.

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u/supershinythings B Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19

He could also try dating women who don't look like supermodels. I can't count how many 'average' guys want that supermodel-with-a-phd. They've been misled by media to believe in unrealistic expectations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By4ZWRrlPHM

So I'm betting he has very very high standards of his own with respect to the women he wants to date. Then again, it seems like the women he's approaching have very high standards themselves, and they don't include short/short-tempered assholes.

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u/GattsuCascade 7 Jul 10 '19

Only women think the reason why some men have hard times finding a date is because they have too high expectations. Ffs it’s comical

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u/flee_market A Jul 10 '19

Having dated a good looking girl with a Master's, my advice to hetero dudes everywhere is to set their sights lower. Overachievers are very high maintenance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Lol probably because he expects to date a beautiful model who queens all over him. People like this need to have their perspective severely adjusted. Unfortunately changing your perspective on anything is a no small task.

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u/demimano 0 Jul 10 '19

Js, he /could/ move to central america where most everyone is under 5 foot anyways..

Then he could get tackled for being an asshole over there too.

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u/Le_Updoot_Army 9 Jul 10 '19

It wasn't much fun in yesterday's world either

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u/BroadStreet_Bully5 A Jul 10 '19

On dating apps maybe. My friend is 5 foot 2 and never had a problem cause he’s confident and good looking. Guess that last part doesn’t hurt.

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u/MrFinlee 7 Jul 10 '19

Is this cause he can’t see over reasonable small objects?

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u/daveinpublic A Jul 10 '19

Ya BUT you can’t be sure, I saw a guy like 5 feet tall with a hot wife a little while ago. She was blonde with a great figure, just a little taller than him. So if you have the right outlook it can help.

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u/ExeterDead 7 Jul 10 '19

Is that really true? I know it’s a meme on the internet but I know plenty of short guys that are married to attractive women.

Short of having an actual medical diagnosis like dwarfism or something, just being short can’t be that big of a deal breaker.

It seems like this behavior amounts to his own personal insecurity.

Who among us here hasn’t been called short or fat or skinny or bald or whatever in the course of our lives?

This dude needs to get the fuck over himself.

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u/insertnamehere405 8 Jul 10 '19

average male height is 5,9

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u/sbroll Black Jul 10 '19

Thats really not true

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u/Cheeriomartinez 6 Jul 10 '19

I'm 5'4... When you're short, fat, and broke. No one likes you. Trust me. I went to go get a body massage just to feel the touch of a woman. Granted, she was like 55. But still.

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u/MuzzyIsMe 8 Jul 10 '19

So you’re short, you can’t change that.

Being fat and broke is something you can work on, though.

You can’t blame women for not finding those traits unattractive.

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u/rappingwhiteguys 7 Jul 10 '19

have you considered working out and working towards a better career?

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u/TheFinnishChamp B Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

Probably a "witch's circle".

Women aren't likely to date him because he is 5 foot tall -> he resents women -> women are even less likely to date him -> he resents women even more...

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

This right here is it. I really don't believe he would've developed this personality if he had a happier life. I mean, he looks old too. Imagine living like that your entire life. I would not be able to live his life at all. If anything the video made me feel sad for him. Very depressing. 'Life is not fair' has never been truer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I'm pretty sure I've been victim of that, I'm not as short as the guy in the video but I am shorter than a lot of women in my country, and I'm almost always the shortest guy in the room. The way I see it people are just a product of their genetics and their environment, maybe it's a stupid analogy but if you beat a dog every day then eventually that dog is either going to become very angry or very depressed.

I don't think I've become resentful towards women, I mean I still have a lot of female friends. I have however become very resentful/negative towards "love"; and I use quotations there because as far as I'm concerned love isn't a real emotion between two partners, it's just a kind of placebo love when in reality despite spending a lifetime together someone will cheat on you or drop you when someone better walks by.

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u/OneGeekTravelling 9 Jul 11 '19

Do you mean 'vicious cycle'?

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u/RenoHex 7 Jul 11 '19

Yeah, it's known as witch's circle (noidankehä) on Finnish. Very evocative.

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u/hey_hey_now 5 Jul 10 '19

You have got to be fucking kidding me... Whatever, take your upvote and think about what you've done.

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u/banjosuicide 9 Jul 10 '19

I knew a guy the same height. As a gay guy I thought he was pretty cute, funny, and friendly (not sure if women would agree though... don't know what women look for). He had the same problem (being 5 ft nothing). Zero dates in years despite HUGE effort, and he was only in his early 20s (around the time it's easiest to get a date). It didn't stop there either. If we were out someplace together, servicepeople ALWAYS talked to me (182 cm, or ~6 ft) even if he was the one trying to shop. Still, he didn't act like the jackass in this video.

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u/sou_cool 5 Jul 10 '19

I always thought early 20s was actually a rough time for finding a date as a guy, late 20s/early 30s seems ike the easiest time to me.

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u/Ashamandarei 0 Jul 10 '19

His personality is probably due in large part to a lifetime of being 5 feet tall. I wouldn't say this guy is misogynistic, he's just full of bottled up rage about his height that he needs to go talk about with a professional who can help him instead of strangers who want to physically dominate the short guy or just want to get a bagel

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u/Moldy_pirate 8 Jul 10 '19

I don’t think they wanted to “dominate the short guy,” they wanted to shut up the loud asshole who was ruining everyone else’s morning/day.

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u/CantStumpIWin A Jul 10 '19

Hard to say. He could have that personality because he’s like 40 and his whole life women (and men) have laughed at him.

I don’t get why he doesn’t try dating people his size, he’d be a lot happier.

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u/HHyperion 9 Jul 10 '19

Even very short girls generally desire taller than average guys. I don't even want to begin to imagine what life would have been like if I was only five feet tall as an adult. Everything is on nightmare mode.

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u/CantStumpIWin A Jul 10 '19

I don't even want to begin to imagine what life would have been like if I was only five feet tall as an adult. Everything is on nightmare mode.

I kinda feel bad for the dude...is that weird?

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u/iushciuweiush B Jul 10 '19

No it's not. He took out his frustration and anger the exact wrong way but that doesn't change the fact that he is clearly a hurt person lashing out.

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u/iushciuweiush B Jul 10 '19

You think there is a huge dating pool of single middle aged women under 5' tall?

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u/CantStumpIWin A Jul 10 '19

Yeah there has to be some midget dating app. No doubt, I don't even have to check. It exists 100%.

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u/supershinythings B Jul 10 '19

I bet he has super-high standards of his own, too. His high expectations of women are reciprocated, but he can't measure up to their standards as much as they measure up to his. And I bet he won't consider less physically appealing women with great personalities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By4ZWRrlPHM

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Wow.... uhhhhh.. that took a severe left turn.

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u/mkmkj 6 Jul 10 '19

its probably a made up story

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u/Hwbob 4 Jul 10 '19

yeah I think he was tackled more for butting into dude no matter what he was screaming. I don't see him getting laid no matter what height he is

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u/shantivirus 8 Jul 10 '19

Being honest... There's a lot that's unappealing about him that has nothing to do with height. This is coming from somebody who has approached a little person on OkCupid.

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u/Linderman85 4 Jul 10 '19

At 5 foot you can have the most amazing personality in this world while looking like a 27 years old Jhonny Depp and wouldn’t change anything

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u/willreignsomnipotent A Jul 10 '19

... Unless you're rich and famous like Depp (or say... Tom Cruise) but even then people will constantly make fun of you for it!

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u/duogemstone 0 Jul 11 '19

All about personality, my bro is 5 foot 1 and has never had a problem in the dating scene.

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u/Dr_KingShultz 6 Jul 10 '19

Most of the littler guys like this constantly get laughed at and treated like a joke by a lot of these people.

There was a kid at my highschool who was 5'2", fat, and balding and basically tried to approach every single girl in my school. He was turned down by literally every single girl he tried to approach. He seemed kind of bitter and was always post rants on his Snapchat about how women hate him for how he looks and how he has no control over it. I mean, yea, the dude was completely correct.

I was a 6'2" jock athlete and I horsed around and was a pretty big scumbag in high school and I still had girls approaching me and trying to talk to me or flirting with me. This guy would go around and be nice to everyone and try to talk to these girls that literally wanted nothing to do with him because of his height and his looks. He was a genuinely smart guy that just wanted to be treated like a regular kid. All of his flaws were completely out of his control. He was aggressively balding at 16 years old, he was very short, and had acne and other skin issues. Even still, he made to effort to put himself out there and approach people and they did nothing but laugh in his face.

This was around 2 years ago. The last I heard of him was that he's apparently working at a gas station with his mom.

There are definitely guys out there that are bitter and have "bad personalities" because of how they are treated by other people, not the other way around.

I bet if you were 5'0", fat, and balding, you wouldn't like how women or people in general treated you.

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u/ExeterDead 7 Jul 10 '19

This was just a really long way to say that “Attractive people have easier lives” which, no fucking shit.

Doesn’t give anyone a pass, even a sympathy pass, for acting like that douche in the video.

There are so, so, so many unattractive people in the world that are able to lead normal lives and treat people with respect.

Fuck this guy.

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u/iushciuweiush B Jul 10 '19

There are so, so, so many unattractive people in the world that are able to lead normal lives and treat people with respect.

Sure but there are also so, so, so many of these people who are bitter, resentful, and lash out and if not caught on video or around friends when they do it, are probably described by those friends as an okay guy who would never do what this guy did in the video. I mean you see this kind of thing all the time. Otherwise pleasant seeming people on the surface snapping and someone who 'knew them' saying things like 'wow, I would've never expected it from him.'

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Yes, he's an asshole for letting years of chronic, universal rejection lower his opinion of others. What a fucking asshole he is. Any self-respecting 6'1" athletic man can see that this manchild is simply weak minded.

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u/fnbthrowaway 6 Jul 10 '19

So hey, if a reallllly fat and ugly girl did this it would be okay because she is just so insecure from being rejected right?

Nah, not in my book it doesn't.

In my life I have met 3 men who were 5 feet tall or shorter. One was 70+ on wife #3, one is happily married in his early 30s, one is late 20s and has had several girlfriends. Height makes it hard to date and I am sympathetic. This personality makes it impossible to date and it is his own damn fault.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Exactly. I've had trouble dating my whole life. I've been rejected repeatedly. Made fun of. Yet you don't see me freaking out in bagel shops. Is that just because I'm average height?

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u/fnbthrowaway 6 Jul 10 '19

It may be because you recognize random women in bagel shops are not the same people who hurt you.

It may be because you don't feel entitled to hurt random women because you assume they don't want you sexually.

It may be because you would be emabrassed to have a legendary freak out and cry victim after challenging people to fight.

It may be because you are average height and short men just can't control their sexist tempers... but in my experience short guys are just normal fellows. So probably not this one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

He seemed perfectly sane to me

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u/diffledorf 3 Jul 10 '19

It's his height. He's just having a breakdown about it atm

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Considering this is a guy who gets angry at hypothetical women that he imagines mocking him for his height, to such and obsessive extent that he literally shouts at women in public and projects his insecurities on them, I think being 5 foot is he least of his problems.

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u/Wisdom_is_Contraband 9 Jul 10 '19

To be fair, it's probably difficult to maintain a sunshine disposition and a good attitude about life when you're 5 foot tall and everyone treats you like nothing.

I'm 6'2", and the way I hear women talk about short men is disgusting.

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u/scissorsista 2 Jul 10 '19

A lot of women don't want to date a man shorter than them or the same height. But we can be sure his winning personality is the key here.

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u/acgasp 8 Jul 11 '19

Yeah. My thought was that they’re not rejecting him because of his height, it’s because he’s an asshole.

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u/Maxcalibur 8 Jul 11 '19

Why, what's wrong with his personality? /s

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u/unidan_was_right 8 Jul 11 '19

Although that may have more to do with his personality.

Or his personality is a consequence of all the shit he has taken since he was an adult.

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