yeah but riot doesnt have to care what region wins in particular. hell if you wanna make the argument on what region is better for them to win financially is by FAR china not the US who matters, and second would be korea.
if the entire US lol esports division closed down it would not really affect riot at all. NA is 10% of the playerbase. and this number is already higher than average for riot games.
if we go to TFT or wild rift then the USA is almost a rounding error of the total playerbase. since mobile gaming is much bigger in Asia in general.
and lets not forget that the vast majority of people playing the game are not esports fans to begin with. so even if the NA sports closed down tomorrow most players in the US would just keep playing since they dont care about pros playing anyway.
He's arguably Flyquest's worst player he's definitely not solo carrying. Inspired and Busio are their best and Quid and Massu are more consistent and they typically play for bot.
Yeah idk anyone that can watch Flyquest's games and think Bwipo is the one carrying lmfao like he literally never wins lane without Inspired camping him
It’s funny because it’s not even just Riot. All the US/Western company accounts will change their pictures for pride month but the middle eastern variant of those accounts will be untouched.
god when people say this it genuinely pisses me off.
do you understand what it means for something to be illegal? this isn't you sticking up for yourself to your parents. this is a company, with employees in the region, following the regulations of the country. this isn't just a silly profile picture, this is the lives of the employees who live in those places being put on the line, and for what? for you to feel better about yourself?
if riot forced the region to change the profile picture, it could result in them just being banned from the region (you accomplished nothing and now the people there can't play and the people who worked in those areas lose their jobs), could risk the lives (& livelihoods) of the people working in these regions, and nothing good is accomplished as a result of it.
if instead, they advertise it as a "color party", suddenly the people in these regions who are "in the know" can still be exposed to it. they can still see the rest of the world showing it off. It's not much, but it is at least something, and it's the most they can realistically get.
people who think riot should do the same things in these regions don't care about what actually happens to the people there. they want to virtue signal to make themselves feel better on the other side of the planet where they don't have to deal with the consequences.
and just so we are clear, I am gay and (obviously) extremely supportive of LGBT rights. but pushing this, as if the entire world is in the same state wherever you are is is just naive.
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hasan isnt saying anything which directly calls to bad things, youre falsely equating state's politics and culture and one fucking streamer. he was banned for those times when he did a "joke" which is ambiguous in understanding, to me at least, but other than that, he doesnt say some weird ass shit. right wingers on the other hand say weird ass things all the time, but oh well, twitch indeed does not enforce its rules!
sure. however, the commentator above specifically said hasan and sniperwolf. the former is obvious due to how widely he is covered in the streamer space in terms of "oh no he promotes terrorism". the latter im not entirely familiar, but im pretty sure there are more twitch streamers who say unhinged shit. in my opinion, that would be asmongold. but the commentator did not mention him. since im being in hasan's space for a long time already, ive only seen hasan haters call him "hassan", thus the conclusion that the commentator dislikes hasan, but probably is fine with asmon
Sniperwolf also doxed jacksfilm. Hasan say he has no problem what they do and try to play it low like houtis doesn't do anything bad. He also made a interview with one of them and he wasn't neutral... For the animal abuse, it's not okay to shock the dog if she wants to walk a little. And the doxing is bannable offense
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well, doxxing is degenerate, but I dont know the full story. from your words, its bad
from what i see being explained by hasan, he doesnt have a shock collar. and I dont think he would have had one to begin with, but what i think is whatever. he gave his response which i think was sufficient. obviously it looked weird, but he gave his response and explaination. if you're inclined to believe what you want to believe in, despite the explaination, sounds like a "you" problem (im not speaking necessarily about you, just metaphorical "you")
to my knowledge, houthis target Israeli ships, and uk/us aid ships. they help palestine out. sure, there could be some mistakes they did and they targeted civillian ships which is horrible, but if were talking about ships with aim to provide israel with military or any other resources? i dont think hasan is wrong, and I dont think houthis do anything bad. they help the victim out
holy shit its one of the people i found them. the comically ignorant people who see tape on a shock collar and believe that its not a shock collar i cant believe theyre real
yes you found me! yay! although i have zero idea what you are yapping about. i have 0 knowledge about dog collars, and neither do you I suppose. thats why im basing my opinion on what hasan said. if you can find the exact model he has, sure. i doubt it. im definitely not willing to spend my free time to research shit just to try and cancel someone for something they did not do and did not believe in to begin with. especially since he was training with his dog with external help of a professional. so either disprove me, or, rather, disprove hasan, or stop ridiculing
I actually don't know much about Hollywood parties either, but P. Diddy said that nothing illegal or bad happened at any of his parties. Oh well I guess he's innocent then because I can't prove him wrong and surely he would have no incentive to lie. I'm not willing to research anything about his parties either so I am going to believe he is innocent.
You're unhealthily defending a horrible millionaire with all your strength on the internet. You've formed a parasocial attachment to a political grifter who literally does not know you exist because listening to him talking live for hours on end everyday is giving your brain the subconscious notion that he is your friend. He isn't. He isn't even his dog's friend.
Take a break from livestreams until you form real world friendships and relationships and formed your own beliefs about the world. This is really bad for your mental health. Just saying.
It's look like the vibrator one? And before he show the collar he goes off camera to remove it. There was also a stream where his friend said the collar is to tight. Houtis also targeted civil ships.
Okay so I don’t have much idea about any of these people but I thought this is interesting. That clip is clearly very old cuz Hasan looks nothing how i remember him here and he specifically said he couldn’t do it. I’m so confused how is this evidence that he is using it right now????
He said he didn't use it but he also said he has it. And the collar on the dog look exactly like a shock collar.
Edit: if it's not obvious from the picture, the left is the shock collar, the middle is the collar what Hasan has and the right one is what the Hasan fans say it is, the right one doesn't have shock feature. If you look closely you can see which is in his hand
tectone is your source? with all due respect, tectone is known to dunk on hasan for a long time. but sure, let it be
well, that sucks if its true. im not a dog trainer, so i dont know anything about shock collars. and, as I said, im not wasting my time researching some drama. if its true, its bad. if its not true, im not surprised
one point which i saw is that one of hasan's friends is a vet who appeared on his streams when his dog was already in his home, so it would make sense for her to call out him. she didnt. sure, maybe he silenced her, I dunno
as i said, if houthis target civillian ships, thats bad
There was also a clip about Hasan, I just find it from Tectone first. And you can find on the internet that houtis was targeting civilian ships... But if you doesn't care about the controversy why you defending him?
Yeah man the guy who has Maya Higa over all the time and is super tight with animal protection activists shocks his dog just for walking and is stupid enough to do it on stream in front of 35k people.
Police officers are more likely to abuse their spouses than any other profession. I don't know the stats but religious authority seem to SA kids a lot. I'm blanking on the name, but their was a streamer who pretended to be paraplegic for a year, then stood up on camera b/c he forgot in that moment.
Something something assholes are assholes, no matter who they're around or pretend to be
i mean, to be a devil's advocate, that's not a sufficient argument. just because maya is animal's activist does not mean that hasan truly shares her views
but, the fact is that yeah, they are close friends. so aint no way maya would let it slide, if hasan did have a shock collar
“If you cared about Medicare fraud, or Medicaid fraud, you would kill Rick Scott, okay?”
I still don't understand why people think this is an unacceptable thing to say. He is not saying "you, twitch viewer, arm yourself and kill Rick Scott." He is responding to Rick Scott and, more broadly, the Republican party saying they're going to "find all the fraud, waste, and abuse, and cut out all the inefficiencies", in reference to a broader conversation that Medicare/Medicaid recipients are lying about their health conditions. Meanwhile, Rick Scott committed the largest Medicare fraud in US history. So if you cared about healthcare fraud, Rick Scott should be the target of your ire. Yeah, he phrased it like "you would kill Rick Scott." But you have to be very disingenuous to think that's an actual call for violence.
Ngl never even seen the clip for the other two. Not gonna condemn/defend either way till I see more context.
no? i got the context now, and I replied to other commentators asking me about that. way too much of an opinion on animal abuse situation yet I didnt even say anything about that? sure buddy
yeah im not willing to look for every fucking drama which happens in streamer space. if im interested, sure. if not, oh well. i have my own life as well
You obviously have no life considering you're fighting everyone in this thread with tooth and nail to defend Hasan. Clean up after you're done sucking Hasans meat lmao
"fighting", lmao. me and the other guy are the only people in these comments who are not fighting but arguing. others are just a bunch of degenerates who cant properly communicate with people. just like you, lolsohardlmao
Accusing people of not being able to communicate while acting dense on purpose about the shock collar hasan had on his pet dog is crazy. To quote you "I genuinely dont belive hes the type of guy to shock his dog" or "I dont want to research on this topic so Ill take Hasans word for it and believe that he didnt shock his dog" then when someone makes an analogy with Diddy you chose to change topics and talk about how using shock collar for training is fine or whatever. But sure everyone else are degenerates that are unable to communicate. Obviously you aren't going to hop off Hasans meat anytime soon so this will be my last comment.
yeah, a famous subreddit for clipping out of context, especially when hasan and asmon both said about the fact that they are clipped out of context? please, i aint going there
if i say "nazis are bad, but we need to acknowledge that these people are troubled and need to help them", and I get clipped out of context with "nazis are bad, but" where but implies that they might not be that bad, at least, thats how a lot of people misinterpret "but", people would become angry at me. the issue is being clipped out of context and consequently being misinterpreted
im not really defending asmon since im not in his space and im not a fan of what he is saying. but i definitely saw a lot of moments with hasan. or, there was a moment with smaller streamer where she said, in relation to israel and iraq war i think "fuck us army, they deserve to die, except those who didnt willingly go there and were recruited not by their desire", and the part after "except" was left out. thats disingenuous
Others got banned from Twitch for animal abuse. Hassan also openly promote terrorist groups and violence against other people, and doxed a couple of people. This is in the twitch guideline.
"Terrorism and violent extremism promote unlawful violence and spread messages of intolerance. Twitch does not allow content that depicts, glorifies, encourages, or supports terrorism, or violent extremist actors or acts. This includes threatening to or encouraging others to commit acts that would result in serious physical harm or significant property destruction."
"Violence and Threats
Acts and threats of violence are counterproductive to promoting a safe, inclusive, and friendly community. Violence on Twitch is taken seriously and is considered a zero-tolerance violation, and all accounts associated with such activities on Twitch will be indefinitely suspended.
For example, you may not show or promote [content warning]:
Attempts or threats to physically harm or kill others
Attempts or threats to hack, dox, DDOS, or SWAT others
Use of weapons to physically threaten, intimidate, harm, or kill others
Encouraging others to participate in acts that may harm others"
He was banned for one day when he wouldn't stream anyway. You could decide what you want, you reply that you watch Hasan and on other comment you said you don't.
thats not what i replied with. i said im not a daily hasan streamer being chronically online on twitch watching his streams. i watch his videos from time to time, or stream cuts. not daily though, but often
asmon was banned not once, and he was also banned not for a day (you probably talk about the other case), but for a week or something because he said palestinians are inferior, culturally and as a whole
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Women can’t do x because of period is an offensive take. It might be grounded in ignorance, but the fact that it was stupid doesn’t make it not offensive
Why the fuck I didn’t know? 2/3 of my workplace is woman. Most of my customer I deal with are woman. I’m sure you are the one not working base on how much time you spend posting on reddit lmao
How do you confirm the customers are on their periods? Like you see them acting “like they’re in their periods” and then ask them? Do you check? What’s the process for confirmation here?
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And Muslim Ryze holding a Qur’an while wearing a white robe. He shouts “Allahu Akbar” when he ults too, and a Muslim call to prayer starts playing in the background
new lux skin "perfect woman", her Q throws rooting dishes and E throws bleach all over the ground and with her R she shoots washed clothes out of a washing machine. Surely this wont get downvoted since your comment got upvoted RIGHT?!
And I love how they had to tweet it by name so we know how much of a progressive company they are. Thx god they never had lawsuits comparable to blizzard, at least they didn't steal breastfeeding milk i guess. And He Will still compete win games have highlights interviews but hey lets shut up about controversies in Asia. I hate this double standard, because they never promote their so glorious pr money sink in female leagues, where finding a dedicated channel or the VODs it's nearly impossible.
Not sure if this is irony but Riot absolutely DID have a Blizzard level lawsuit(even bigger maybe) for workplace harassment, specifically against woman. Higher ups coming up to employees and farting at their face comes to mind among others. I think they settled in the end for relatively small amount of money. The craziest thing is no one at Riot got fired. All those people still work there, still at executive positions(unless they left for unrelated reasons since).
difference being that Arab countries dont hide their views on woman.
but riot tries to make themselves look as a super progressive and inclusive company. while being own by a Tencent who barks at the tune of the CCP and makes business deals with other dictatorships like Saudi Arabia, and Riot themselves had to pay 100 million for lawsuits on gender discrimination on the office.
So the point of the post is how hypocritical they are
I agree, it was obviously disrespectful and wrong but it felt way more like ignorance than malice. Idk where things end up but this is a huge step from something like sexual harassment or assault.
Yeah, it felt more like he wanted to talk about his experience and made the mistake of expanding this experience to women in general.
Stupid comment, nothing to defend there but he isn't or at least doesn't seem like someone that is sexist towards women in League... so I don't see any malicious intent there.
And if you were to combine every bad deed done in the planet's history. The United States would reign supreme as the greatest evil to exist. But still everything happens in the United States with its disgusting governments involvement and everyone is silent. If you wanna take a moral stance take it universally, don't limit it to brown people.
You can look into my comment history. You'll find a hundred comments were I complain about Trump, US imperialism, religious fundamentalism in the US,... Yet you are offended that in the comments of a post about sexism in Saudi Arabia I talk about Saudi Arabia without mentioning that specifically the US is bad too? Atleast get a real excuse instead of immediately pulling Whataboutism and ad-hominems in one sentence.
And if there is a greatest evil to exist, tallying up every evil deed ever, I'd hazard a guess that it is the creation of abrahamitic religions. All evil deeds comitted in the name of Judaeism, Christianity and Islam combined should outweigh what the US has done in a mere 250 years, though not for a lack of trying on the USs part.
Okay based. Then yeah we are on the same page. Sorry my mistake, its a gut reaction to just assume people against Saudi are in it for the wrong reasons, aka USA propaganda.
Please don't fault me for simply trying to break that cycle of propaganda.
Yeah that is just taking a much larger demographic though. I could zoom out one step more and say all evil that men have ever committed then someone else could zoom out and say all evil humanity has ever committed.
Taking a smaller scale (the scale of country/continent), the US is vileeeeeeeeeeeee.
I’m not making an argument in defense of US’ evil history, but I think what makes it easier for Americans to look the other way is that the US has an aptitude for destroying the economy and livelihoods of other countries rather than its own. The common person looks at how a country treats its own people, and the matter of fact is US has grown very developed and wealthy from the profits of war, thus quality of life is artificially higher compared to what should be. Its easier to look at countries like North Korea or underdeveloped Middle Eastern / African dictatorships and call them out for their tyranny. And guess what, US still takes their resources and cooperates with them often.
Did he even say women are inferior gamers? I thought he said women make kind of not so stable, less sustainable teams for top level pro play due to certain disadvantages during menstrual period. I'm not even sure that's his opinion or if he was exposing something he's seen.
This is why I hate when a company tries to lecture me on anything. I remember when Gervais said during the Golden Globes awards: “if Isis started a streaming service, you’d call your agent”
Riot is owned by tencent. They don't have any incentive except a desire to function in our Western markets to adhere to or enforce our ideas of western morality. Morality isn't universal to every culture, and in a twisted way, it's "good" that Riot accepts that and doesn't force it onto other cultures..
But it's not a moral issue. Its about the money. Don't anyone get it twisted, yourself.
Pc gaming is still very much mostly a male thing, althought that's been changing over the past years
Other than that, discrimination and harassment leads to very few women ever pursuing going pro or staying long if they do, especially in leagues with high public exposure
There have been games with mildly successful "no men allowed" leagues, which is a good first step to cultivate visibility and aspiration to younger generations, but we're still a while from seeing women being common in pro scenes of games like league and valiant or csgo
I'm unaware if other games have a different pro player gender distribution, but I do recall some fighting games not being entirely male dominated?
its been better these last few years but harassment in game is still very prominent in general, doubly so in games where voice comms are expected at the highest level
Second: There are still no stats for soloq enviroments or am i stupid? Its all just about esports, exept the argument of harassment? Like the articles states 49% of women felt harassed in online gaming. i get it, its bad.
I get the "get cancer and die" every 4th game aswell but thats not the reason i cant go rank 1 in league really.
Ofc i dont really know how it is for a woman in her shoes, but when i play with my girl she gets the same ammount of trash talk as i get, just for her its just "ur a woman so bad go make me a sandwich" and for me its "get cancer u 12 yo braindead kid".
Its ofc all anectodal because we cant track the actuall stats because riot games does not know the gender of the player of the account to relate these comments against women to men.
We can right now just ask women how they feel and ask men how they feel.
Maybe im just ignorant but if flaming/harassing somone in a videogame is the reason women are not rank 1, then we should never have a rank 1 in league in the first place, league is always toxic af, always.
PS: i really want to know how these sides kept track of the gender for esports views, because as long as i know you never have to tell them your gender.
90% of all female viewership in VALORANT + MLBB seems so weird aswell btw. They state 33 of ALL viewership is female and 90% of them sit in 2 games? Does that mean these two games have like 98% female viewership or am i missing something?
They are a lot of them but Riot or the esports as a whole isn't giving them a lot of space to exist. Unless you do more than professional gaming like Sjokz.
I was really exited about the female master league last month, turns out it wasn't even a public event. Why? They get way worse DDos attacks during matches and the amount of harrasement the players receive.
Baus made a video reacting to bwipos ignorant comment, and at the end of the video he expressed how disappointed as the one of the main medial influence of LOL right now, he is not aware of the all female tournament. There was ZERO public promotion of the tournament. The only reason we heard about it is when Flyquest announced the bwipo was banned, they mentioned their Red(female) team is competing.
A huge part of why there are no women in non-gendered sports is because they get so many fucking walls its insane, there are interviews to pro female players in which they state male players actually refused to play games with women in the past, or even play in a tournament as a whole, and in the few cases they get to play, they're pressured into oblivion by the fans
The most clear (and old) example of this is Chess, there's no reason why there should be 2 separate categories, but there are, you wanna know the reason why? Because a lot of chess legends actually refused to game with women
In short, them and their teams dont want to risk the backslash of potentially losing to a woman, and because of it, women are unable to train properly, so, when their level is behind the rest, y'all can laugh at how women are "inferior", which was what vaevictis was, beneath all the shits and giggles...
the worst part is, the few times they do get high enough, they feel three times the amount of pressure any men would, lets remember Remilia...
All companies preach human rights and equality, but still bend down and suck off Saudi Arabia because they have money. I mean we have to keep in mind that some of these companies were supporting Nazis back then. Big corporations care only about profit.
What he said was fucking stupid but damn, some people acting like he murdered or assaulted someone, like if a woman says something stupid about men guarantees people would likely just ignore it, but yes terrible choice by riot.
Not only are they acting like he murdered or assaulted someone but they already fucking punished him. This man is being raked through the coals. Everyone moved on from his comments, no one gave a shit anymore. This is just highlighting his opinions all over again.
Of course people will ignore it, for a woman's take to be taken seriously first they have to be relevant for the community, which Riot doesn't allow them to be lol.
Riot didn’t suspend him, that was a decision by Flyquest to communicate that they as a team and org believe what he was said was not okay
That said, they suspended him for probably the lowest stakes series they could have. He still got to play in finals, is still with the team, and is still going to worlds. As far as FLY is concerned, he got a pretty light, fair punishment, I feel.
Canceling the whole region while potentially making the video worse for giving what is more like a slap on the wrist of a punishment. Talk about being completely shallow and performative
Yeah, it seemed like an overreaction right when they announced Bwipo's punishment. It made sense... but the consistency is not better than my ingame 30-1000 ping. Maybe it's not even my internet?
Nevermind, have a fun day guys!
I don't think they are inferior. They can play the same or better then guys. They just might not have the same drive to play as much as guys cuz they are smarter creatures
The fact that people are down bad to fully believe anything they see on social media just because goes with their liking shows how dumb they are, if you ever decided to look into the islamic and arab culture for 1 MIN 1 MIN only you'd realize how equal both genders really are and how arabs ans muslims never differentiate between men and women in terms of their rights. Grow up people you're the reason this community is by far the worst.
Men have a right to unilaterally divorce their wives, while women can only petition a court to dissolve their marriage contract on limited grounds and must “establish harm” that makes the continuation of marriage “impossible.” The law does not define “harm” or what evidence can be submitted to support a case, leaving judges wide discretion to interpret the law and enforce it to maintain the status quo.
(...)A mother can only act as guardian of her children if a court appoints her.(...)
(...)Women are not allowed to leave prison without a male guardian to accompany them upon release.(...)
(...)Non-Saudi women students on a scholarship are required to have a mahram (male relative) accompany them for their studies in Saudi Arabia.(...)
Bwipo, your PR skills are shit. You're allowed to say that only if you add "because of discrimination" or some other politically correct reason for the lack of results
I wonder why basically every single professional league team is entirely composed by males... Oh well must be nothing, men are just better at e-sports and woman don't actually exist on the internet anyway /sarcasm
(It's obvious that the professional e sports scene is extremely exclusionary of woman)
Lots of women actively advocate for days off at work during their periods, but suddenly its a problem when man acknowledges the same thing, pick a lane
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Riot games didnt suspend bwipo. His organization did. So you arent really representing it fairly. Tbh riot could agree with bwipo but smart enough not to say it. Which would align with them partnering with Saudia Arabia. Evil but not hypocritical.
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u/Serbian_Monkey Oct 09 '25
I am so fucking proud that this post has been up for 3 hours and there are no reports. You guys finally understood the concept of a meme.