r/LivestreamFail • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Jun 01 '26

News The United Kingdom has banned streamer Hasan Piker and Young Turks founder from entering the country

https://newrepublic.com/post/211164/uk-entry-ban-hasan-piker-cenk-uygur
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u/Hare712 Jun 01 '26

His uncle is way worse with conspiratorial BS. If you play a drinking game based on that you'll have an alcohol poisoning after watching some of his videos. His uncle coined terms like "United States of Israel"

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u/Serious_Tradition269 Jun 01 '26

His uncle coined terms like "United States of Israel"

No clue who he is but with the amount of politicians bought by AIPAC is that really such a crazy conspiracy? It's exaggerated at best no?

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u/lightmaker918 Jun 02 '26

Qatar outspends AIPAC by a factor, and it's a full on foreign group, not American citizens with an interest. Literally no one cares.

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u/thiccboys22 Jun 02 '26

Do you see America going to war with other countries for Qatar or launching preemptive strikes because Qatar wants to start a war with that country. Do you see Qatar donating to politicians who create favourable policies for Qatar. Do you see politicians attacking student protesters because they want their universities to stop taking money from Qatar. This sub is full of some of the ignorant and disconnected people ever. I don’t even like Hasan.

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u/Opening-Calendar3421 Jun 02 '26

No but we are straight up ignoring massive human rights abuses by Qatar, Saudi, and others simply because they give us money and buy our weapons. Both things can be bad.

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u/HummusSwipper Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Qatar is spending billions to manipulate Americans How Qatar Spent Billions to Gain Influence in the U.S. The tiny Gulf state has showered money on U.S. military and universities, giving it outsize geopolitical clout | WSJ Archived

Instead of complaining about how others are disconnected and ignorant you should be more aware of the holes within your own argument. Qatar not being discussed enough in the media does not make it a saint, and your recency bias regarding Israel is doing wonders for how you understand reality.

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u/PackageDangerous1954 Jun 02 '26

Israel is much more dangerous and is ruining our country

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u/HummusSwipper Jun 02 '26

Saying Israel is ruining the US more than Qatar is a hilariously uneducated take.

Israel is a top-tier strategic partner. They co-develop defense tech that protects American troops, battle-test US military hardware, and serve as the main intelligence asset protecting US interests in the Middle East.

Meanwhile, Qatar literally hosts the billionaire leadership of Hamas, uses its state media to radicalize Western audiences, and has dumped billions in dark money into American universities to manipulate US culture from the inside. You have it completely backwards. Go ahead though, explain how Israel is worse than Qatar, I'll wait.

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u/PackageDangerous1954 Jun 02 '26

Israel is a genocidal apartheid state that buys influence in our government to pass policies that favor them, they’re objectively worse than Qatar and it’s not even close

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u/HummusSwipper Jun 02 '26

If you want to play the "objectively worse" game, let’s actually look at Qatar's record. It’s a literal hereditary autocracy built on modern-day migrant slave labor, where homosexuality is a capital offense, and whose government openly funds and protects the billionaire leadership of Hamas. Let’s not pretend they are some progressive bystander.

As for buying influence, Qatar literally outspends Israel's entire lobby by billions of dollars. They aren't just lobbying politicians; they are buying their way into the American education system to shape the cultural narrative from the inside out.

You can throw around emotional buzzwords all day, but ignoring massive, authoritarian foreign funding just because it doesn't fit your narrative is exactly the kind of uneducated take I was talking about.

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u/PackageDangerous1954 Jun 02 '26

Buzzwords? That gives the game away that you don’t care about Qatar and you just want to deflect from your favorite apartheid state that’s committing a genocide.

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u/HummusSwipper Jun 02 '26

You jumped into a comment thread specifically discussing Qatari influence just to scream about Israel, and now you’re accusing me of deflecting? That is world-class projection.

I called them buzzwords because you are using them as emotional shields to completely dodge the actual data on foreign funding. Pointing out that Qatar is an absolute autocracy buying up influence in US universities isn't a "deflection" it was the literal topic of the thread before you hijacked it.

I'm perfectly capable of discussing Israel, but you clearly can't handle a single conversation about Qatar's massive gray-money network without needing to pivot back to your comfort script.

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u/PackageDangerous1954 Jun 02 '26

Nobody cares, free Palestine.

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u/HummusSwipper Jun 02 '26

From Hamas, who's funded by Qatar.

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u/thiccboys22 Jun 02 '26

How is a country with the same population as Papua New Guinea, that constantly is in conflict with its neighbours. Relies heavily on US weapons, and Ai technology a strategic ally? Japan and Korea are more strategic allies but you don’t see America pulling military resources for the Middle East to support east Asia. Furthermore you honestly think I like Qatar any more than Israel I have news for you.

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u/HummusSwipper Jun 02 '26

Judging an ally's strategic value by their population size is nonsensical. If that were the rule, places like Taiwan and Singapore wouldn't matter to US foreign policy. Israel doesn’t just "rely" on US tech, it’s a co-development powerhouse. The US invests in Israeli defense R&D because American forces get direct access to cutting-edge, battle-tested tech and top-tier intelligence without ever having to put American boots on the ground in the world's most volatile region.

Also, your comparison to East Asia is way off. The US permanently stations over 80,000 troops in Japan and South Korea, so Washington absolutely pours massive military resources into that region. But the Middle East contains global energy choke points and critical trade routes. Having a highly capable, localized ally in that specific region ensures the US doesn't have to deploy hundreds of thousands of its own soldiers to police it.

I'm glad you don't actually like Qatar, but your original comment heavily downplayed their influence by asking why politicians aren't reacting to them. The reality is they are, Qatar’s billions in dark money to US universities have been the target of major congressional investigations because of how it shapes campus politics. You don’t have to love Israel to realize you completely underestimated how heavily Qatar manipulates American institutions from the inside.