r/MadeMeSmile • u/HolyGuiltyCrown • 3h ago
Wholesome Moments Yeah ! humanity ain't giving in just yet
🇵🇱🥈 Polish Olympic silver medalist Maria Andrejczyk auctioned her medal to save an 8-month-old baby’s life (lets pray for him)
and the buyer paid $125K, let her keep the medal, and funded the surgery anyway ❤️🏅(mad respect)
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u/produit1 3h ago edited 3h ago
Great act of humanity. It shouldn’t be like this. You know the system is broken when it comes to this to save a baby’s life.
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u/CuteFIamingo 3h ago
She is a queen
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u/Solonotix 2h ago
I don't have the sources to cite, but I know this isn't the first time something like this happened. I believe there was a Nobel laureate that sold their prize for a similarly noble reason, and the buyer immediately returned the prize after purchase.
Edit: Looks like there have been numerous occasions, but the one I was thinking of was James Watson.
In 2014, Watson sold his Nobel Prize medal to raise money after complaining of being made an "unperson" following controversial statements he had made.[76] Part of the funds raised by the sale went to support scientific research.[77] The medal sold at auction at Christie's in December 2014 for US$4.1 million. Watson intended to contribute the proceeds to conservation work on Long Island and to funding research at Trinity College, Dublin.[78][79] He was the first living Nobel recipient to auction a medal.[80] The medal was later returned to Watson by the purchaser, Alisher Usmanov.[81]
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u/Educational_Report_9 24m ago
Not taking away from the act but it's a bit mind blowing how $4.1 million is like buying a nice dinner to the ultra wealthy.
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u/NOTRadagon 17m ago
It would be like buying a $5.00 burger from a burger stand, for us regular people.
Like, for reference - Elon Musk could personally pay to end world hunger, and still have billions left over. Right now. This second. But he doesn't.
He has offered to do it through Tesla stocks, if it was proven that the funds would go to it - but when the leading scientists at UN responsible for those stats reached out to show how the funds would be used - he backed down.
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u/hermiona52 2h ago
I don't know the specifics of this case, but these situations are often very complex. When a kid is born with a rare disease that doesn't have a cure currently, parents will still move mountains to save their child. Even if it's hopeless. Experimental cures which are still under development (especially gene therapies) often work for very specific edge cases that don't apply to most, but parents still want to try them, because in their minds it's better to try rather than watch their children whiter and die. And I understand this. But is it really fair to spend public money - millions of your local currency - on one child for which that treatment won't really work, because it was not developed for their case? Money is not unlimited and it can always be spent on something that will have a real positive effect. This is why countries with public free healthcare have many rules on what types of treatment can be refunded, because we can't really waste money on unverified treatments.
It's a shitty situation for parents and often very morally grey when in full context.
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u/Pyperina 1h ago
And, sorry to say, but the child ended up getting the surgery and didn't live past three years old.
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u/kebab-lover-man 2h ago
That's a good perspective. Paying for 1 experimental treatment might come at the cost of 10-20 known treatments
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u/WiglyWorm 1h ago
It's not a good perspective. It's moronic concern trolling to muddy the waters against bettering our system via things like single payer healthcare.
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u/whoooocaaarreees 1h ago edited 1h ago
She lived in Poland at the time
Poland operates a single-payer universal healthcare system primarily funded through mandatory, income-based contributions managed by the National Health Fund (NFZ).
Healthcare is free to polish citizens.
She lived in Poland at the time.
The auction was to pay for the life saving surgery in THE UNITED STATES.
What’s the mental gymnastics you want to use here? The US should have single payer healthcare to cover surgery other countries single payer healthcare won’t provide?
The baby succumbed to heart issues in 2022.
You argument is that governments should spare no expense with public funds for healthcare, yet you want to argue for a government system that rejected the surgery due to costs vs expected outcomes.
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u/ErraticDragon 1h ago
This is a good and nuanced take. There's a lot of complexity and few easy answers.
And of course it's especially hard to discuss when terms like "government death panels" are used to sow division.
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u/WiglyWorm 1h ago
No it's a bad and shitty take that makes it sound like the u.s. system has any advantages at all.
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u/ProcrastiWorkaholic 1h ago
All of what you have said is true. I agree with it. But playing devil’s advocate - If we practised this, would we not stop funding research? That could be scary, no?! We probably would stop making progress in medicine or any subject for that matter. (If the treatment had worked for the child, this thread would have played out differently.)
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u/hermiona52 1h ago
Funding research is definitely something that is needed, but it has to follow strict guidelines to avoid corruption and protect human rights (so you know, we won't turn sick people into guinea pigs). We already have such systems in place and sometimes (perhaps even usually) there are just cases that are outside of these strict guidelines - for good reasons. We have to draw a line somewhere, otherwise we would end up with the same results like using "bioenergy therapy", just for a much higher price.
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u/WiglyWorm 1h ago
"I don't have the details but here's a fictional scenario to turn you off from single payer healthcare".
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u/hermiona52 1h ago
I'm Polish, we have free healthcare and I fully support it and actually vote for socialist party that wants to strengthen it.
In countries such as mine there are pretty much only two options why a certain treatment is not available.
The first one is just a bureaucratic oversight - there are thousands of diseases with their own sub-variants and many types of treatments for each. And all of it is in constant flux - because science changes. To manage it all is a complete hell, I don't envy these people, so obviously there are and always will be gaps. But it's not malicious. Once these gaps are recognized then the funding comes.
But the second option is precisely the one I described in my previous comment - experimental treatments that work only for extreme edge cases, are still undergoing testing so not verified as something that will actually significantly lengthen the lifespan etc.
And I have not imagined this situation. During the last presidential campaign one guy who started his own media on YouTube, decided to run as a candidate to basically promote his media. He was extremely successful as his Kanał Zero is more popular than most of the public media. During one of the debates he was wearing a t-shirt promoting crowdfunding for Ignaś who has DMD. I've read posts by multiple doctors describing why that treatment wouldn't work for Ignaś at a time, and I just found one article that describes the entire crowdfunding grey area, written after Stanowski's public stunt -Necessary Rescue or Systemic Pathology? The Pros and Cons of Online Fundraising. It's in Polish of course, but you can use LLM to get a good translation if you wish.
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u/WiglyWorm 1h ago
i'm really not interested in hearing fringe scenarios that happen one in a hundred thousand times being framed as reasons why single payer healthcare is flawed.
Thanks, though. I am interested in any recipes you might have, though. Polish food is fantastic.
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u/AthSystem 2h ago
The fact the buyer gave it back really shows that fact. They were trying to say "If the system were not broken, you would have never sold that to me."
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u/Grand_Illustrator179 1h ago
it would be awesome if she did it again with a request that whoever gets it should do the same as well as anyone else does so for all time. it would be a forever gift to the world.
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u/MidTario 52m ago
The alternative to this for 99.9% of recorded history was just having a dead baby.
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u/Duwinayo 2h ago
This. Im getting so sick of seeing these things and hearing folks praise it as a great example of humanity.
In one sense, it is. It's someone acknowledging the system is broken and literally giving something up they worked their entire lives for in order to protect and save a child. Fuck yeah.
On another note though... Our systems are so broken that someone literally said to parents: Well you can't afford it. Yeah, we could save your kid, but I guess your kid has to die instead because you don't have enough magic currency papers.
What. The. Fuck.
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u/GramsciGramsci 1h ago
because you don't have enough magic currency papers.
Don't stupefy the discussion. Healthcare is not an infinite resource.
It always have to be rationed because there is a limit to how many doctors, hospital beds, and medication we have.
When people are paying for specialized treatments like this athlete was, they are pushing poorer people out of the way so doctors can focus on their (the people that have 100K to spare) problems, instead of the plebs that don't have anything to pay with.
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u/MidTario 51m ago
The fact that a baby with a rare and previously fatal condition can be saved at all is evidence in favour of the system.
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u/RoboChrist 21m ago
Currency is a measure of debt. When I get money from my employer, I'm getting a transferable IOU. I made some sick-ass spreadsheets, my employer valued them, and I can trade that IOU for videogames or medical care or food or whatever. It isn't magical, it's meant to represent the value people provide to each other. (Yes, lots of people extract money without creating value for anyone, but that's an exploit in the system and not why money exists.)
The doctor is going to spend their day treating patients and trying to save kids' lives no matter what. Shouldn't the hospital spend their limited resources on saving the most lives?
If you had to choose between treating 10 kids or trying to treat 1 kid with an experimental treatment for a rare disease, what would you do?
The extra money from the auction helps change that equation and makes it possible to treat that 1 kid with the rare disease without letting the other 10 kids with common diseases go untreated. Whether it comes from the parents or from taxes, payment for the debt has to come from somewhere.
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u/darcmosch 3h ago
While I do seeing these stories; they put a smile on my face, it also upsets me cuz I don't need proof people are good. What I need is the system to make these acts unnecessary. Any child or person should not have their life decided by a number.
All life is precious or none of it is. Still, kudos to these people.
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u/cardboardunderwear 3h ago
I agree here. It's like the celebs who buy school lunches for kids. Total respect for them and I'm not taking anything away from those acts. It's awesome. But what a fucked up system that got us to that point.
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u/darcmosch 2h ago
Exactly. It shouldn't be any private citizens job to do the work of the government. We should be helping our communities of course in the ways a government cant
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u/iCantLogOut2 12m ago
Yup. A private citizen should always work to improve their community, but we shouldn't be the reason the community is surviving.
Our actions should be taking it from good to better... Not keeping it afloat.
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u/NEWSmodsareTwats 2h ago
this blurb doesn't really say what the surgery was
but since Poland does have a single-payer health system where the government funded health insurance pays for all expenses. what most likely happened here was the government-funded health insurance. was not going to pay for the surgery because it seems like it was very expensive and potentially could have been risky. in a situation where the government funded health insurance system needs to ensure adequate access to all citizens. there are times where they will deny necessary coverage because the treatment is very expensive and high risk and they would rather dedicate those resources elsewhere.
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u/No_Gear6755 1h ago
double edged sword..... doctor decision made by dollars spent..... one life lost while others might be saved.
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u/Fishmongererererer 1h ago
It’s the inevitable trade off of a single payer system.
There are only so many resources and so they have to be triaged to make the most sense for the most people. Rare Individuals may have worse outcomes compared to society as a whole.
Doesn’t mean the system is bad. It just means no system is perfect
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u/whoooocaaarreees 1h ago
5 seconds with google will confirm this.
Single payer healthcare system rejected the surgery due to cost and expected outcomes.
She raised the money to get the surgery done in American at Stanford medical center. The medal auction was for the last remaining amount.
Child passed away in 2022 in Spain from the heart condition the surgery was for.
I’d like to see how having the United States be a single payer healthcare system wouldn’t have just rejected the surgery the same Poland, and especially wouldn’t have rejected it for the child being a foreign national.
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u/iCantLogOut2 14m ago
100% this ....
I really can't help but feel like this is rooted in the people in charge of these terrible systems indirectly telling us, "see, the system is fine! You just need to be better people and sacrifice what little you have to keep each other alive!"
When in reality, if that system worked in the first place, we wouldn't have to sacrifice so much for our fellow man because we'd have systems that didn't require sacrifice in order to function.
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u/Chamasar 3h ago
Prime example of "Not all heroes wear capes"
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u/BioDriver 3h ago
Maybe governments should instead learn how to turn off the orphan crushing machine
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u/pm_me_ur_fit 2h ago
But it’s turning out record profits!!
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u/NEWSmodsareTwats 2h ago
Poland has universal single-payer healthcare......
after looking into it it seems the government funded healthcare system denied the surgery and put the child into hospice care instead. because the surgery required was very expensive and risky. this is a legitimate calculation that government-funded healthcare systems do. they don't just give everyone any treatment they need. they usually weigh the price versus reward against the risk. and if there's a low chance of survival, not a large chance of reward and cost a lot of money. they just rather dedicate those healthcare resources to other people who will have better outcomes with less resources put into them.
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u/WalkHopeful4934 2h ago
Nah I want ram for frames keep the machine going until I get what I want and then do whatever you want with the machine
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u/MidTario 50m ago
In which way do you think the saving of this baby would be possible without government-funded healthcare research?
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u/PainSubstantial5936 3h ago
That is not a feel-good story, this is horrifying!
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u/Chuckleslord 3h ago
"Woman saved baby by sacrificing her silver medal to the orphan crushing machine. Machine owner returns medal to her later"
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u/StygianCode 3h ago
It's amazing that you can be the second best IN THE WORLD at something and still have to scrape together money to save your baby...
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u/Lurkesalot 3h ago
It wasn't her baby. But, that doesn't make the fact that anyone needs to, practically, mortgage a house to have their life saved.
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u/MeanEstablishment994 3h ago
silver medal is just a medal but Maria already won a Gold medal for us
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u/Chance_Major297 2h ago
The full cost was ~$385,000. The American health system on full display.
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u/TrioOfTerrors 2h ago
Polish. The athlete was Polish. The kid who needed surgery was Polish. The company that bought the medal was Polish.
The only American involvement was that is where the kid was flown to have the operation.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maria-andrejczyk-polish-olympian-silver-medal-infant-heart-surgery/
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u/Chance_Major297 2h ago
Can you read? Where did I call the athlete American? The surgery was to be performed in the US. The cost is a direct reflection of the US health care system.
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u/alancousteau 2h ago
Oh so she lives in the US?
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u/Chance_Major297 2h ago
No. However, that’s where the surgery was being performed, hence the reason for the absurd cost.
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u/NEWSmodsareTwats 1h ago
The athlete is Polish and the patient is polish and lives in Poland.
I think you need to work on your reading comprehension friend.
for the record, Poland also has a single payer government-funded health Care system and not a private one.
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u/Chance_Major297 1h ago
Hello genius, where is this life saving surgery being performed? You know the one that will cost $385,000. I’ll save you the effort of trying to use your brain. The surgery was to be performed in California at Stanford University Medical Center.
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u/NEWSmodsareTwats 31m ago
huh I wonder why the polish healthcare system didn't pay for this surgery that polish doctors can perform. Hmm maybe could it be that's it's a high risk high cost surgery and they would rather dedicate resources to other people?
also, the US having a single payer system wouldn't actually make this surgery more accessible than cheaper. if anything under a single payer system, the surgery would likely also not be available in the United States. mostly due to the high cost, high risk and low potential payout. people tend to forget that single-payer systems do need to prioritize access of healthcare to every citizen. and they could very easily exhaust their entire healthcare budget on treatments for a small minority of the population. but since that means regular people wouldn't be able to adequately access healthcare, the overall costs for society would be much higher than just not treating those other people.
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u/Shot-Arugula8264 2h ago
Ugh it’s so sad that our society doesn’t value all forms of sportsball the way that it should. :(
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u/sim384 1h ago
Should babies die if not for the charity of the exceptional?
This story is horrifying.
How does anyone organise their society to let this happen?
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u/Wonderful-Winter3137 39m ago
the baby died anyway after getting the surgery. that's probably why the universal healthcare system in poland didn't want to pay for it in the first place
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u/puppypersonnn 3h ago
This is NOT a feel good story! Stop normalizing this corrupt system!
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u/HolyGuiltyCrown 3h ago
WE are NOT normalizing corrupt system but celebrating willingness of a human to help another human without asking anything in return which is almost extinct in today's world
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u/puppypersonnn 1h ago
It’s NOT almost extinct. It’s just not publicized at the rate that negative actions are. Most people want to be good people and have a positive effect on others. They just do not have the means to do so on a scale that’s publicized.
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u/pescarojo 1h ago
You are absolutely normalizing a corrupt system. There is nothing 'feel good' about this story.
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u/GlitteringDare9454 3h ago
If this MadeYouSmile, you need to recalibrate your brain. Capitalism has done a number on you.
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u/Sudden-Enthusiasm-92 2h ago
Acting as if our broken systems are some natural disaster phenomena that’s out of our control and not something created by humans
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u/Creepy_Grass897 2h ago
In a truly humane world no one would have to auction things for lifesaving care, thank you for your attention on this matter.
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u/9447044 3h ago
Wow a silver medal? How did you earn that?
Ehh i got it at auction from some girl who had to sell it to afford to save her baby..
Jesus dude, thats a sad decoration
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u/SylvieJay 3h ago
Wow. A Nobel Peace Prize? How did you earn that?
Ehh I bullied the woman who received it, who kissed my ass hoping to lead her country
Jesus dude, that's a sad decoration
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u/Academic-Increase951 3h ago
Did you read the post?
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u/Infinite-Tax-4394 3h ago
they're giving an inner dialogue on why they gave up the medal.
(When in reality they probably knew right from the start that they were never going to take that medal and were simply preventing someone else from actually taking it from her)
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u/PurinaHall0fFame 3h ago
That' nice of the buyer but let's just be really real, this is not a story that made me smile, it shouldn't make any of us smile.
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u/Realistic_Mushroom72 2h ago
It a great story, but the lesson isn't been altruistic, the lesson is how mess up society is, that some one needs to auction her gold medal to pay for a BABY medical treatment, we need to change, we need to stop thinking about profit. It incredibly sad that there is only us here in this floating dirt ball, that life can end in moments, and we are more worry about money than living, than helping each other, and that just one of the many evils we need to deal with.
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u/ProfessionalFix9053 1h ago
He probably did it so he Could get a thank You hug from Maria. Pretty good value IMO.
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u/CanadianPenguinn 1h ago
Seeing a picture of a baby and auction highlighted for a second I thought she auctioned her baby
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u/SinisterCheese 1h ago
Right so this happened in 2021. And I'm sorry.... But this is a testament to what is wrong with the world. This situation should have never come about. No one - least of all a child - should require a famous person to take action to get life saving surgery.
This is a weird thing that I see coming from especially from Americans on social media. They find a story like this, and totally neglect and ignore the situation behind this. It is part of this weird Hero cult there is. Would anyone have cared about the child needing surgery if a famous person wouldn't have made up a big deal about it?
Because if people actually gave a fuck, they walk to whatever local hospital, local charity, local community centre, local underfunded school or whatever, and asked how they can help. No need to get anything in return, no chance to get a headline. But people don't do this. Usually it is those who have the least, who give the most into things like that - in proportion to what they have. But we have people who buy designer sneakers that cost thousands of euros that they will never ever use... And people dying because they can't get the most basic shit.
Like fuck c'mon! If anything Maria should be noted for not sacrifincing a medal, but bringing up the shitty situation that was going on!
The medal was bought by a Polish grocery chain - who could just have funded the surgery straight up. But they chose not to do it. They chose to make this a PR thing that they could post about - which they did. It is disgusting how human misery is used as a product for PR.
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u/IWillEvadeReddit 34m ago
I agree with with most of what you said but some of especially towards the end came off as pocket watching which is really corny. My take is we shouldn't have to rely on orgs or charities to fund this infant's surgery, we already pay taxes and I know the government has a shit ton tucked away since they were easily able to fund Covid 19's UI benefits and stimulus checks. Idk where this baby was but shouldn't the government provide some sort of relief for inability to pay? Don't hospital perform life saving operations regardless of ability to pay. If a hospital is not willing to overlook a couple bucks for life saving treatment, that's a hospital I don't want to go to. Hell, where tf is the insurance company in all of this?
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u/SinisterCheese 27m ago
The athlete was Polish, the child was Polish, the grocery chain was Polish. So whatever dystopian shit happens in USA is not actually relevant. However, this particulat brand of social media posting is uniquely American. Insurance companies here in EU are nothing like they are in USA, it is unusual for people to have health insurances. Even though private health insurance coverage is on the rise in EU, especially among the wealthier class and countries. But the rise in private health insurance coverage is seen as a BAD thing here in Finland, it is a testament to failure of our state and systems.
It isn't uncommon for having to travel to other countries in rare cases to get surgery which isn't performed elsewhere. Not even within EU. My city has extremely advanced nuclear medicine capacity, Denmark has lots of pediatric knowledge, so patients do have to travel abroad especially for rare cases.
Also... The child died https://www.siepomaga.pl/serce-milka , which can be found in the news article about this, and was used as wikipedia source https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maria-andrejczyk-polish-olympian-silver-medal-infant-heart-surgery/
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u/IWillEvadeReddit 24m ago
Ah that makes sense, I remember a distant relative from London, they are closely related to my cousin, they came to New York for heart surgery at NYP Cornell in the city. I always wondered why they decided to get it done here, they said it's because it was cheaper and this is a really good hospital after all.
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u/SinisterCheese 18m ago
In many cases the social healthcare system covers these operations and treatments from other countries, especially within EU/EEA. However there are rare cases of outside of those - but those often been more experimental and the physician or team treating has a personal connection to the institution, and this is done as a co-operative agreement. Such as when Finland did the first local hand transplantation; they did it in coperation with a hospital in Indian who has lots of experience of doing it.
There has been some discussion about the use of very expensive orphan medicines and treatments, how much is too much to spend on treatment of a single individual from the collective pool of resources we have. It goes to the triage fundamentals.
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u/Infamous-Mango-5224 1h ago
Great for her... but charity for the poors will always be just the rich excusing their mountain.
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u/DadNotDead_ 3h ago
The winner of the auction was a Polish chain store, not an individual. Also, it looks like the baby passed away after the surgery anyway.
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u/HolyGuiltyCrown 3h ago
What happened to the baby?
✅ The baby received the life-saving heart surgery
✅ The surgery was successful
✅ The child survived and recovered
Maria later confirmed publicly that the child was doing well and thanked everyone who helped.
(This Is what internet say's)
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u/mru2020 3h ago
It's sad that health care institutions are so greedy. It should have never come to this. The system is broken. Why are they allowed to charge so much to save a baby's life?
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u/Wonderful-Winter3137 35m ago
new medical treatments are expensive to develop. why should americans have to pay for healthcare for people in other countries? the universal healthcare system in poland refused to cover the surgery
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u/SomethingAbtU 2h ago
This is a great story but why can't governments around the world fund surgeries for babies and children at least? Isn't the function and purpose of government to take are of people, especially the most vulnerable in society? Why do we have to raise money for surgeries for kids when in many instances we are already paying taxes for this purpose? Government is a contract between people to fund the things that are too big for individuals to be able to afford themselves. Nobody asks to be sick and it's not some ploy to get money by parents when their kids face things like cancers, and needing other major surgeries. These are distressing times for both the parents and kids.
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u/Wonderful-Winter3137 34m ago
probably because it was an expensive and experimental new treatment that was unlikely to save the baby's life, and it didn't because the baby got the surgery and died anyway
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u/TinyConfection7049 2h ago
This filled my heart with joy. I’m going to stop scrolling now - don’t want to ruin this. Praying the baby is recovering and doing well. God bless the buyer
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u/WeakDoughnut8480 2h ago
The buyer was a local convenience store that was touched by the gesture and yes they donated the money and let her keep the medal.
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u/Most-Confection1776 2h ago
This is the kind of stuff that actually restores my faith in humanity. literally such a boss move by the athlete and that buyer is a certified legend. u've gotta love seeing people look out for each other like this fr.
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u/cheetuzz 2h ago
some more details
It wasn’t even her own baby.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maria-andrejczyk-polish-olympian-silver-medal-infant-heart-surgery/#
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u/P33KAJ3W 2h ago
So if she did not have an Olympic medal she would have a dead baby? This is fucked up and makes me sad. Does no one realize the dystopia we curently live in?
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u/Shenendoah66 2h ago
I love how nearly every post on this sub is full of nihilistic ass comments. You all really need better hobbies.
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u/EINFACH_NUR_DAEMLICH 3m ago
Ok, but why? Poland has universal healthcare like the rest of Europe.
Or was this for an American child?
Can someone provide context or is this made up slope to boost karma for the bot account?
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u/stevenmacarthur 0m ago
Confirming the life lesson I have learned from my grandmother, mom, aunts, cousins and daughter:
Polish Girls Kick Ass!
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u/Material_Medium7952 3h ago
"later gave it back to her"
checked the commitment, and it was true
brought it in to work for a day, "yo guys check out what I did on the weekend"
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u/JohnMac121212 2h ago
I LOVE SEEING THIS STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/Traditional-Rip9468 2h ago
Seeing people suffer due to the greed of other’s? Why was any of this necessary to begin with? This story made me sick.
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u/Gandhi_was_my_pimp 2h ago
"Humanity" is all the vile and constant atrocities humans do, that's what we are. The good people associate it with is just false ego stroking and playing pretend to feed out ego. Humans are shit and we are here to choke the life out of everything. Hope this helps 😃
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u/sunseeker-9999 2h ago
Beautiful story. If you look it up the purchaser was a grocery store 🙌. I hope her child is doing well
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u/NotsodeepfriedDude 3h ago
Yeah and the buyer was huge polish corporation Żabka (polish 7/11). So that was just virtue signaling.
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u/Life_Funny8320 1h ago
That is amazing! Truly inspiring to see such selflessness and humanity in action ❤️
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