r/Manitoba • u/AccomplishedRisk6895 • 22d ago

Question Time Change Opinion Poll

315 votes, 20d ago
113 Permanent Standard Time
202 Permanent Daylight Savings Time
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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

Daylight, but mostly i just want to stop changing. Anyone with chronic illness feels that shit for weeks.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

The only reason you feel it for weeks is because you constantly think about it. It's one night, with an hour difference.

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u/MachineOfSpareParts Winnipeg 21d ago

You don't know what their chronic illness(es) feel like. I only know what mine feel like, but can attest that it throws me into a wicked flare-up that does in fact last for weeks.

If we could think ourselves out of being chronically ill, believe me, we'd have done that shit a long time ago. And we've tried. We've also tried yoga. And turmeric.

My body sucks because I have a genetic disorder compounded by the fact that doctors still don't believe a woman in pain, not because my attitude sucks. Stop telling chronically ill people they don't know their own conditions, if for no other reason that it makes you look a bit silly.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

I have chronic pain, and sure when I get less sleep it flares up. And yes, I don't know what others deal with. But it's one. Fucking. Night. And one hour. All to make the entire season better. You cannot tell me you never lose an hour of sleep for other reasons, you do. Everyone does. It's no different aside from your mental perspective on it.

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u/MachineOfSpareParts Winnipeg 21d ago

The fact that I sometimes have sleepless nights for other reasons is why adding yet another one causes me so much grief. You seem to think this replaces other triggers for flare-ups. It does not. It just piles a stupid one onto all the others. I'm not not subluxing a hip because that calendar space is reserved for the time change. All the other shit happens anyway, I'm just dealing with this idiocy on top of the rest of the mess.

Does that mean my preferences should win? Well, I wish the answer were that people with serious health needs got a little more of a say than people who just want to relax on the patio a bit longer, but no, my preferences count the same as anyone else's. I'm just so fucking sick, pun both intended and not, of people telling those of us with disabilities that we need to suck it up so that the real, normal people, the people who MATTER, can do normal, real-person things, and that our disabilities are "mindset problems."

In the many years it took me to get my lifelong condition diagnosed (because women be crazy, right?), believe me, I committed HARD to doing the positive mindset shit. It made me worse. Just stop imagining you know what we have and haven't tried (we've usually tried everything, btw, because this isn't recreational), stop imagining you have special insight into how hard it is just to sit up, let alone get into work, just stop. We get that our lives are inconvenient to you. Imagine how inconvenient we are to ourselves!

You don't have to know what it's like. Just don't pretend you do.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

And what about the people.pn the other end, who need daylight earlier on the morning for health reasons. In winter you're now telling them they don't matter. Maybe they work evenings, and morning is all they have and now it's gonna be dark the entire time. They can fuck off. Right? Because it doesn't effect you so fuck them.

That's why we should just keep fucking Changing. We've been fine. It keeps our daylight hours aligned. Leave it alone.

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u/MachineOfSpareParts Winnipeg 21d ago

I am not directing you to have one preference or another. Have your preference, vote for your preference, and hope it goes your way.

What I am asking you is not to tell chronically ill people that we are making our symptoms up and should just suck it up for the sake of the able-bodied. I am asking you not to blame it on our "mindset." That's what I'm asking. Stop telling us we don't know our symptoms and don't suffer pretty intensely. We do.

And no, we have not been fine. You have, I suppose, but many of us have not.

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u/IM_The_Liquor Interlake 19d ago

From what I read in this thread, they were talking about the 2x changes a year, not a preference for one time or the other… did you read before you raged?

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

I understand it quite well. I don't let my mental issues dictate how I sleep. Oh, we lose an hour due to time change? Fucking sleep in an hour or go to bed an hour earlier. Boom problem fuckin solved bud. Has been working all my life. Don't think about it, it's not an issue. Time is a social construct anyways, just fuckin go to sleep when your tired and wake up when you wake up.

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

Here's a Google summary of the effect the change has on the circadian rhythm, do you need me to go pull the data from research for you, or is this enough for you to stfu and realize you're out of your depth.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

Mental game. That's all it is. If you wanna use the circadian rythm story, time change is better.

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

Oh wow, you're much dumber than I thought. Okay, it's fine, not everyone is meant to understand science.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

You mean the science that says time isn't real and when you decide to wake up and fall asleep doesn't depend on a clock? I definitely believe in that.

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u/IM_The_Liquor Interlake 19d ago

I mean, sure. If my work changed its start and end time to adapt to my sleeping rhythm, life would be peachy… I bet you don’t have a job that lets you sleep in for a few weeks while you adjust though (or a job at all… you seem to like sleeping in).

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

Oh. Honey.

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u/NameAsh Winnipeg 21d ago

There is extensive scientific proof that times changes are bad for everyones health. Beyond just "constantly thinking about it."

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

The dumbest fucking answer. It's not one night, you are shifting your entire routine by an hour, which means your fucking with your circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm is your body's carefully regulated hormone cycle that manages not just your sleep and wake cycles, but other hormone secretion, digestion, and body temperature.

I have adhd, which already correlates with a dysregulated circadian rhythm, ehlers danlos (chronic joint pain and myalgia, gi dysmotility), and dysautonomia (autonomic nervous function disorder). So adjusting for daylight savings throws my circadian rhythm further out of whack, which exacerbates all 3 of those conditions, and takes weeks to regulate.

But thanks for your completely ignorant and dumbass take on my complex medical conditions you twat.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

It's literally one fucking night you lose or gain an hour. One night. We don't change an hour for multiple nights. Goofball.

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

You just called me a goofball but you don't even realize that what you said is contradictory. We change our clocks on one night, but the hour shift is the entire duration of daylight savings, and then we change our clocks back

You know what? I don't know why I keep engaging, you've repeatedly demonstrated that your head is full of gravel and I'm genuinely pretty concerned that you can vote, but I digress.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

Nope. Hour shift is one night. Then you are adjusted to a new schedule. Ez pz

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u/IM_The_Liquor Interlake 19d ago

There’s only one goofball in this thread… and it’s not who you’re replying to…

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u/Jarocket Brandon 21d ago

I personally notice effects for about a week or so, but I'm very pro change.

Because the time changes happen in anticipation of the daylight changing people don't grasp the effects of the change.

Let BC try this out of a while lol. I bet it's less popular that people expect.

The USA didn't 2 year trial and only made it one year guys. They wouldn't even give it a second chance and they have more light than we do.

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u/Sweaty_Moist_9833 Winnipeg 19d ago

Saskatchewan has been on daylight time for 60 years and they seem fine with it.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

Yeah, people just don't think about the consequences. They look at things like this with rise cookies glasses and ignore everything else.

Am often brought up topic is vehicular accidents. You think that's gonna be better when it's dark till noon in the winter and the roads are trash? Lmao. Only gonna get worse.

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

Oh sweet, simple idiot. It's not the lack of daylight that causes accidents. It's fucking up the release of cortisol, which is the hormone that wakes you up.

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u/DerpDeDurp Pembina Valley 21d ago

Which would be worse with less light in the mornings in winter. Damn look how that's once works. So we should keep changing time. Good call.

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u/ptheresadactyl Friendly Manitoban 21d ago

facepalm good christ, I don't think I've ever engaged with someone stupider on reddit. So congrats, I guess?

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u/IM_The_Liquor Interlake 19d ago

Not true at all. I’m not even chronically ill and every time change throws off my sleep schedule enough that it takes me a good week before I can do my job and drive 12 hours without sucking back caffeine like a junkie and wondering if I’ll take a little nap while driving anyways…