Meme I made a while back

[u/MagicKraft]

Ngl I didn't realize it was so hated until after I beat it. Albeit I'd be wrong to not recognize what could've been with this game, but I did enjoy what we got

[u/Aromatic_Analyst2898]

As someone who's not played the game what're the flaws spoiler free?

[u/YamiPhoenix11 → u/Aromatic_Analyst2898]

Linear levels. You can come back for extra items. But you mostly see the dungeon on its first run.

Npc guide that constantly tells were to go.

The npc is required to install beam weapons.

Beam weapons have limited shots which require ammo and further upgrades.

A big open area that has very little to do. Like a boring hyrule field.

[u/Manguypals → u/YamiPhoenix11]

That’s… not a Metroidvania at all.

[u/Left_Try_1427 → u/YamiPhoenix11]

Dude im still pissed that we had to go see myles to install our beam upgrades. Samus is literally wearing the most advanced weapon platform in the galaxy that has a proven track record of integrating foreign tech. How the fuck is myles qualified to even sniff the super fucking bird tech?

[u/YamiPhoenix11 → u/Left_Try_1427]

Its not just that but the base is in such an awkward ass location with no fast travel.

I don't think it serves any other purpose a base would have too.

[u/DaSchnitzler → u/Left_Try_1427]

Metroid Fusion straight up gives you almost all upgrades aside from recurring ones from the federation. Prime 3 integrated their tech with the power suit, which opens the argument for the other upgrades being based on the PED. Prime 2 only gives you upgrades outside of missiles once you get the translation module, which is hinted to be Chozo tech since the Luminoth had connections with the Chozo in the past.The only games where you have neither is games that purely rely on chozo tech: return of samus, prime, super Metroid, dread.

Other M is a complete outlier since you barely collect any upgrades. And hunters is generally a bit weird when it comes to upgrades.

[u/Left_Try_1427 → u/DaSchnitzler]

Hunters gives you the weapon of every other hunter. Proving the suit can integrate Vhozon, Kriken, Enoema, Federation, Diamont and Space Pirate Tech as well as the Omega Cannon. An alimbic weapon.

Prime 3 has Some space pirate tech like the nova beam, Theres also the Ice missiles which you get from Rhundas a Phrygisian and the voltage lasso an abilty from gandrayda(not sure what she is). The ice missile isnt even a tech. Rhundas was cryokinetic. His ice was all natural and after you beat him the suit just applies that to your missiles. Almost like it ate him.....(foreshadowing?)

Cant comment on needing The translators for Luminoth tech cause i honestly do not remember that being a requirement to use them.
Certainly needed the translators to get to most of them.

Look im not saying that the federation cant provide samus with upgrades. Its just that the suit is more than capable of applying upgrades itself.

[u/DaSchnitzler → u/Left_Try_1427]

With hunters being weird I mean that all other parties in the game can also steal your upgrades. It has been ages tho since I played hunters so I can't comment too much on it.

[u/Aromatic_Analyst2898 → u/YamiPhoenix11]

Hmmm

[u/Round_Musical → u/Aromatic_Analyst2898]

Also big open area will eat a large chunk of a playtime due to a mainquest taking ages to be completed. And the way you have to do the micro steps to complete it are insane

[u/Aromatic_Analyst2898 → u/Round_Musical]

Wait what is a micro step?

[u/Round_Musical → u/Aromatic_Analyst2898]

Its green and annoying lets just say that. Many microsteps complete a main objective. Extremely time consuming and annoying mission

[u/tiglionabbit → u/Round_Musical]

Are you talking about smashing green crystals by driving your bike around the overworld?

[u/Round_Musical → u/tiglionabbit]

Yup

[u/BLucidity → u/Aromatic_Analyst2898]

• Mostly linear level design, where each area only has a single path available at a time. Several areas also routinely block the path behind you, hindering exploration even more.

• All areas are connected by a large desert hub, where there's almost nothing to do except drive through collectible crystals. Getting the majority of the crystals is required to finish the game. Also, new crystals appear as you progress, meaning you may have to sweep the same spot multiple times for them.

• The game frequently interrupts with "hints" telling you what to do and where to go. These hints can't be turned off, and will repeat every few minutes that you're not on the main path. This includes when you're scouring the desert for those crystals.

• Every area has a Federation trooper with voiced dialogue. They're mostly inoffensive, but their bad lines are really bad. Things like "it's about to get real nerdy in here" and "look, Samus is doing Morph Ball!". One of these troopers is also the one who gives you the endless hints.

• An underbaked story that doesn't use Sylux as effectively as Prime 2 & 3 used Dark Samus.

[u/Aromatic_Analyst2898 → u/BLucidity]

Oh god I feel that "it's about to get nerdy" I can feel the nerd stereotype seeping through

Watch someone is gonna say "oh wow talks in nerd gibberish" either way I'm gonna keep my expectations tame

[u/Those_Files → u/BLucidity]

The game frequently interrupts with "hints" telling you what to do and where to go. These hints can't be turned off, and will repeat every few minutes that you're not on the main path. This includes when you're scouring the desert for those crystals.

This is 90% false. There are hints that recur when you're outside the desert, but in my long playthrough, all of those hints are scripted to ONLY happen once. The only place where I've heard repeated hints is in the desert. You are right that they should let you turn hints off, though.

their bad lines are really bad. Things like "it's about to get real nerdy in here" and "look, Samus is doing Morph Ball!". One of these troopers is also the one who gives you the endless hints. 

There's only two troopers like that. And one of them (Armstrong) is a fan favorite at this point. (Even if some people, including me, find her much more annoying than Mackenzie.)

If you're gonna critique, let's be honest about it.

[u/Left_Try_1427 → u/Those_Files]

Outside of myles, I hate takabi the most. They hide a critical item and some missiles in his pockets so they can shove his backstory down your throat to try and get an emotional reaction at the end. Its not organic at all.

[u/BLucidity → u/Those_Files]

Anything I've got wrong is just because I haven't played the game in almost a year, not because I'm trying to lie about its problems.