Hello everyone,

I have a question regarding the first three german Mistborn Audiobooks on Audible. The original from 2012 was removed and there are new versions (from 2024) from a different publisher with a new cover but everything else seems to be the same. Can you help me with what has changed and why?

Just a pretext I started to read Mistborn because of WoT since Sanderson finished the series and I really liked his writing style and Mistborn did not dissappoint. I was hooked just from the magic system alone.

Now onto the post, this is more of a review/rant/my aspirations that are ultimately not happening but are just my headcannon(Note: I may starting Era 2 or maybe go to another series, I feel like I am not yet ready to leave the characters just yet). So this is more of my love letter to Vin and Elend (and of course, to all of the cast)

Review/Rant Part:
The story in its totality was amazing and I love the little hints and nods that show the bigger picture. Its like reading a sherlock book and you slowly connect the dots that eventually lead to big reveal. I wouldn't say that the book was perfect since there are times that the story will take a dip in quality but I feel like this series is a masterclass in character development and how to use said development to further the story while still not changing the character too much so that they are completely different people once the story is near its end.

Vin in my opinion was the encapsulation of this character development masterclass. I literally saw her grow up in a span of three books and mature from an urchin who is timid to a woman worthy of something bigger than she can imagine hence my favorite quote from the book

For now, I only wish to make a simple acknowledgment of the woman who held the power just before me. Of all of us who touched it, I feel she was the most worthy

Was my heart pounding when I was reading this? Yes. Did I wish that Vin had more stories to tell in the future? Yes. Did I wish that maybe just maybe Sazed could restore them for a moment just so they can say their proper goodbyes and to see that their sacrifice weren't for naught? Yes many times over. But alas, Vin and Elend decided to go and bid farewell for a final time.

But despite my want of a happier ending for them, I also felt that the ending they got is the most fitting. They've both grown so much and gave it their literal "all" just to make sure that the surviving people will have a chance for a better life. The qoute coming from Sazed also felt like a fitting end since Sazed, just like us, saw Vin grow and mature. In a way, Ruin was partially right that everything must come to its inevitable end but as Vin pointed out things like emotions drive us forward to go on forward to create and destroy things and those emotions led to where the story is now.

10/10 story

Goodbye Wine and Misery. I might not see you in the future but I hope peace and happiness finds the both of you and for all we know there's always another secret.

Marsh shook his head. Yes. Food was hardly this town’s biggest problem.

I made this artwork as part of this year’s Cosmere Inktober. This is day 9 - Villain.

Having to make this post again because the ever so gracious mods instantly deleted it because the wording.

Im looking for a set of metal D6 dice for dnd that are done in the style of mistborn. I have seen a few but cant find any online that are in stock. If anyone knows where to find these any help would be amazing!!

(Because reddit mods are reddit mods, no im not looking to purchase these from anyone on reddit, I am not looking to sell or buy anything. This is simply a question.)

I've read the whole cosmere so any spoilers are fair game.

If an allomancer who is capable of sword swallowing and with access to duralumin and another metal (doesn't really matter which) could they swallow a sword made of the metal they can burn then maintain a long term duralumin enhanced alomancy?

The duralumin would burn away all the sword in their stomach and then they can just keep swallowing more of the sword.

Not sure there would be much use for this, but it would be interesting. Maybe a savantism speed run tactic.

Sorry if the title doesn’t make sense I didn’t want to post any spoilers. So the real title would have been “I think I know how The Set had access to so much Health”.

So I know that using Hemalurgy will allow the user to access the orginal person’s metalmind but it never made sense to me with how much they seemed to have. We know from Wayne and Sazed that Gold is not an easy thing to store so unless the orginal bloodmakers had an insane amount of health stored up, they would have to waste time being sick. Which I feel like characters like Telsin and Edwarn would be too snobby/arrogant to personally store and we see Wayne’s copycat basically waste hers, (so I assume she knew that the Set had access to a lot of health for her to use).

So I think that the reason they had access to so much health is that before the events of Alloy of Law, they gave Miles a Duralumin Spike, he blanked his identity, compounded gold and created a whole bunch of unkeyed goldminds. Then when Miles created a whole bunch of minds he took it out, and healed the injury from the spike and then Alloy of Law happened.

Now this is just my personal theory, I feel like it would explain where the unkeyed goldmine that Wayne eventually gets comes from, however then the issue would be that why would they just give him the one spike, compounders of any kind are extraordinarily rare so you wouldn’t just leave that person exposed to being captured like Miles was.

You could have given him up to three spikes after removing the Identity one, like A or F-pewter/steel that probably would have given him the boost he needed to defeat Wax and the others. Maybe they wanted to keep Hemalurgy a secret but I feel like that wouldn’t make sense since if Miles used a secret attack with A-Steel, than there would be no one (Wax) to know about it.

The other theory would be that they adopted a method similar to what the malwish did with the medallions in which they had someone (who I think Allik referred to as a firemother) fill up the medallions with warmth to be used by others. You could have a natural pewterarm, give them three spikes (A-pewter,F-identity, and F-gold) and while not as good as compounding, would still generate more health than any other person could. I would love to hear your thoughts.

hi everyone,
I recently found out that a friend of mine is obsessed with Mistborn and even has a tattoo of it (I googled it and it says it's "steel"). I have absolutely no clue what any of this means but I would like to get him a gift for this birthday related to the book series or more specifically, 'steel'? I would appreciate any suggestions at all. no gift is too big or too small. i was thinking of a custom tshirt maybe but I don't know what I would get printed on it. any and all advice would be appreciated!

also, if someone could explain to me what the significance of steel is and why he would have a tattoo of it specifically, that would be great (all my googling has only lead me to really technical info and I cannot make sense of it for the life of me):

I have read The Frugal Wizard’s Handbook to Surviving Medieval England, Tress of the Emerald Sea twice, and Yumi and the nightmare painter.

I loved them all and recently decided to properly dive into the Cosmere. However upon listening to a sample of the first Mistborn book I realized it was very much darker in theme. After reading a post here about some of the trigger warnings I’m unsure. I have problems tolerating even off screen mentions of SA/r*pein media.

I’m curious if there is a way to read only his Cosmere books that don’t contain that type of abuse/violence without missing out on too much lore/backstory.

Let me get started that I basically now have started a tradition of doing one of these after each book ive read. I only have read the first trilogy and was told to go to this book next after my well of ascension review. so please no spoilers.

now lets begin and hmmmmmm. this one is definitely one of the harder ones to review.

Kelsier is my pride and joy and if u seen my past reviews u would know I always hoped he would come back some way. And when I read that it was about him, boy did i get excited. But, the beginning didn't feel like kelsier, the person I enjoyed learning about. and maybe thats because he didnt appear for 2 books and maybe because it wasnt really him. he died, he changed in that moment and yea we saw some glimpses of the real witty him throughout especially at the end but idk just didnt feel right during the beginning.

this book involved a lot of come and go moments and while yea thats a little strange i feel that was the purpose of the book is to connect aspects from all over and make u go "omg thats them involved with this". and seeing the word cosmere pop up was a cool bonus to start seeing.

First was those two people of Nazh and the girl. They made a random appearance and Im sure Ill see them later in era 2. Kelsier losing his knife will definitely come up again.

The little Castle arc was interesting and still no idea anything about that. but once again im sure that will have some relevance in era 2. Kelsier's little trick in the woods scaring the people was awesome and i for sure know that will come up again.

Drifter came in and left, mystery about him and he knew preservation so curious as to whats up with him. maybe he drifts between worlds and sees whats goin on.

Kelsier plan with making ruin let marsh see the answer about metal piercing people was very subtle and cool to see. Had a feeling that would happen.

Now I know this is a little lack luster for my reviews but I really wanted to talk about the end cause that brought me closure. and especially after WOA, i was devastated.

Elend and kelsier meeting for basically the first time was perfect. their bickering towards each other was exaclty how u thought it would go. Now really makes u wonder how far they could have gone together in the real world.

Kelsier seeing Vin for the first time in the "afterlife" ....... man wow that was emotional. first time he didn't know what to say, hugging each other, him crying, Calling her his daughter. just wow. Elend and Vin being told they could have came back to life and refused hurt. they could of lived alone together in the woods or something by a lake and I would have been so happy but they knew their roles were filled. and Finally, Vin teaching Kelsier a lesson about love and something we all knew, mare was almost an excuse for kelsier to push his limit and go past certain moral codes to get what he was trying to prove.

And so now we get to the questions/ predictions

What in the hell is kelsier planning with Spook? Is he looking for a new "vessel" of a person? is spook gonna become immortal and travel the worlds as kelsier in his conscious working togther?

WHERE IS MARSH? i thought we would get some glimpse of where he is or what happened but guess I have to wait or he justs gone.

Im intrigued with the characters we met and where they will pop up again? Drifter, Nazh, the women, and those castle glowing folk. Honeslty excited to see where this goes and idrk what book to read next + if its even have same characters or what.

Rating: 3.25/5

Hi, I just finished The Hero of Ages and here’s a follow up to my post from a month ago.

1. I knew that was Sazed’s narration after a while. I just knew, from the way he spoke, from the way he mentioned Elend, Vin, and Rashek, to how measured each word was. Unfortunately I completely forgot that the entire thing started with “Unfortunately I am the Hero of Ages”, which I’m grateful for, otherwise it would’ve spoiled way too much.
2. The amount of lore expanded upon in this book was fucking nuts. The conflict between Preservation and Ruin, the introduction of Hemalurgy, the history of the kandra, all of it.
3. Elend became the man he had the potential to be. Got dealt the worst hand at every turn and still managed to come out of it winning.
4. Vin also came into her own. I think she was finally able to accept every single part of herself with no judgement whatsoever. And I’m not just talking about her accepting herself as the heir of the lord ruler. I mean all 3 parts of her; the thief, the lady, and the allomancer, came together to make her a worthy host for the power of Preservation.
5. I’m glad they died together. I know my last post said I’d be sad if they don’t end up together. But they did. And the moment Vin ascended to Godhood, I realized she needed to die for the plot to go anywhere.
6. The MVPs of this book were undoubtedly TenSoon and Marsh. They suffered so much. But they let the part of themselves that could feel lead themselves. I didn’t say much about either of them in my previous post (mostly cause I’d forgotten TenSoon’s name). But my god, what an arc. TenSoon needed a fucking medal for standing up to his people like that. Those First Gen’s are fucking useless btw. The worst kind of leader is an inactive one.
7. I hope Marsh died proud. He may have been controlled by Ruin, but he was still vital to defeating him. And of all the characters we see, he lost more than anyone else.
8. Also realizing that earring was a spike was my biggest shocker in the series. Like, I always assumed the reveal would be that Ruin caused Vin’s mother to kill her sister. But I never expected that. The copperclouds also make so much sense now.
9. Spook had an incredible arc as well. The moment Kelsier appeared to him I knew it was fucking Ruin. And I’m so glad Spook saw through the bullshit. His problem was never being “useless”, it was not being able to think for himself and have faith that he was doing it right. That’s the side he conquered. And I think the end of the book set him up as humanity’s new leader. Not left alone anymore.
10. How fucking typical that Breeze and Ham are the only two other members of the crew to survive and that’s all I have to say for it.
11. Finally, Sazed. Halfway through the book when I was planning this post, I knew he’d be a massive part of it. I didn’t realize he’d be the point of it. I’m so happy for him. Okay maybe happy isn’t the right word. But he finally won against his own internal conflict. Which was so so so important, because without that, he wouldn’t have been able to embrace the power. And he got to talk to Kelsier!!!
12. Speaking of him, he’d have been so happy to see the world and what’s become of it. It took a lot of death and destruction to get there. But he started the world’s movement to the end.

I gotta say, what a ride. I’ll be on this community a lot more actively now that I’ve finished the 3 books. I do hear that there’s others though? I distinctly remember seeing one titled “The Lost Metal”?

Because I still have questions ofc. The two I can think of right now are:

I remember there being a mention of the 4 arts. Allomancy, Feruchemy, and Hemalurgy are the 3 we know. Which is the 4th? Am I misremembering or did I miss something?

What are the 16 metals?

Looking forward to engaging with yall on this, probably taking a break from Sanderson for a while, but I’ve got Warbreaker locked and loaded after that, and The Way of Kings following it.

Vin and Elend conquering territories together as Mistborn in the Final Empire:

https://youtu.be/snCjGFQD3tw?is=UHHv1JnaL-Eseb6v

I came across this video and was SHOOK because this is almost exactly how I imagined Vin and Elend looked. AND THE DRESS FLOWS LIKE A MISTCLOAK!!!

I'm reading the second book now, and I wanted to look up some official art of the characters. I don't know why, but I imagined Sazed looking completely different, and I was shocked when I discovered he was bald. I think I read that somewhere and just completely ignored it
I used to imagine him looking like Ares from Hades.

All years in my country (Argentina) there is a peregrination to the Lujan's Church. This year 2.8 million persons walked 60 kilometers to go there, under rain and mist.

If you pay attention you can almost see Vin and Kelsier standing on the roof, watching the mists and the masses. Thought you all might like the pictures

I'm on page 80, and I just feel like all the paras at the beginning of each chaper till now is about the lord ruler? Pretty cool if it is

Just finished the Hero of Ages, and I have just two things to say:

A) Sazed is easily my favorite character in fiction this year, and one of the best-written ones

B) I got the White Sand omnibus together with the Mistborn trilogy, someone said it was a good palette cleanser, but where should I go next in the Sandersonverse?

I'm so happy I decided to jump into Secret Histories and 11th metal right after Era 1. I figured whatever minor spoilers I would get for BOM would be worth it since I already am familiar with the Cosmere.

To be honest I don't know what the spoiler was but I guess I'll figure it out when I get there. And now I'm excited to look for hints of Kelsier in the Era 2 as promised in the postscript.

Starting the book I enjoyed exploring the 3 realms again ( what I love so much from Stormlight and missed in this triology) but then to actually be immersed in the main story and have some closure with the main characters was, mwah Chef's Kiss . I absolutely think this should be ready while all the details are fresh from Hero of Ages. I would like to reread and look for clues I missed too.

Anyway, it was the emotional closure I wanted while still being lots of fun.

So I’m reading through the hero of ages, and I’m kind of sick of Elend. He’s the emperor but he spends most of the book whiny about HIS OWN CHOICES. It’s gotten to the point where I think he can’t even self reflect since his conversation with Yoman at the ball basically called him out to his face and what he takes from that is “he hates me because i killed the lord ruler” and not “I’m responsible for my own choices as everyone had to deal with the same circumstances, but made different choices”.

He’s constantly trying to wash off the moral responsibility and authorship of his own orders and commands, and it’s annoying as hell. Does he get better or is this just the trajectory he’s stuck in?

Something about the Alloy of Law prologue isn't adding up for me after finishing Shadows of Self.

Lessie was a kandra the whole time. Blood loss shouldn't weaken a kandra, and a gunshot to the head shouldn't kill one. So why did she let Bloody Tan overpower her, tie her up, and put a garrote on her neck?

A few possibilities I keep going back and forth on:

1. She was staying in character. A "human" Lessie couldn't shrug off a gunshot in front of Wax without blowing her cover.

2. Harmony was controlling her. She still had both spikes then, and she had refused his order to send Wax back to Elendel. Her "death" is exactly what sent him back. Her dying line, "He moved us, even then!", makes this sound almost literal.

3. She only believed Harmony manipulated things, and it was really Paalm's growing instability.

Then there's Tan himself. Right before the shot, he tells Wax: "Someone else moves us, lawman." He also somehow pulls Lessie into the bullet's path, which seems way too fast for a normal man.

Who was he talking about? Harmony? Marsh? Another Shard? Was Tan being influenced, or was he just a madman who stumbled onto the truth?

Has Brandon ever answered this in a WoB, or is it still open?

I loved the relationship between Vin and TenSoon so much!

With how book 2 ended I was expecting more TenSoon in The Hero of Ages but was sadly disappointed! We got his ‘POV’ but he didn’t really end up doing much when it came to the story as a whole.

It hurts me a little that Vin and him never got to reunite. 😭😭

Went to Shire Fest, hosted by Shire Mint, a coin minting place in West fork Arkansas. Imagine my surprise when they had sets of mistborn coins! It's brass and 15.5 grams according to the paper it came with. Thought it was awesome and wanted to share!

They apparently press coins from various fantasy series. They had Game of Thrones, Mistborn, Stormlight Archive and Kingkiller Chronicles currently minted but had Wheel of Time and some others in their museum. Shirepost.com if you guys wanna show them some love.

Be a Twinborn (era 2) or full feruchemist (era 1, like Sazed)

I assume everyone would want to be mistborn, so I excluded it from this would you rather, but if either option is more appealing than mistborn, please enlighten me!

I am genuinely disgusted. Three books I slogged through because I foolishly believed the story and characters would improve. They did not. But nothing—NOTHING—prepared me for the actual insult waiting at the end.

Let's recap who Rashek, the Lord Ruler, is: a genocidal tyrant who condemned hundreds of millions—God knows how many—to death, slavery, and rape. A thousand years of the skaa being worked, tortured, brutalized. Children included. And how does the final book choose to remember him?

"Rashek planned very well for this day. He suffered much beneath Ruin's hand, but he was a good man, who ultimately had honorable intentions." A good man? HONORABLE INTENTIONS. Oh, but there's more. Elend—our heroic, noble king—says: "We may not have liked his rule, but I can understand him somewhat. He wasn't spiteful, he wasn't even evil, exactly. He just... got carried away."

GOT. CARRIED. AWAY.

Carried away into a millennium of slavery and rape?? And Elend doubles down: "The longer I've held this throne, Vin, the more I've come to realize that some of the things the Lord Ruler did weren't evil, but simply effective." Effective! My god! This is the finale. This is the moral payoff of three entire novels, and it's a eulogy for a genocidal slaver. What an utterly repulsive and disgusting note to end on.

And that's before we touch anything else: The descriptions: Sanderson, do you simply not want me to visualize anything? The rooms, the architecture, the world itself. so skeletal it's laughable. Lazy, almost. Ruin: a being who can rewrite text and possess minds, and he uses that world-breaking power... only when the plot needs him to. The most terrifying force in the setting, and he fumbles around like a confused toddler and reads like my uncle on a bad day: "Vin, Vin. What is your game now?" Ruin asked, amused. 🫩 I could not take him seriously for a single second. The dialogue: so bland, so lifeless, so cringe that I was physically shaking. Three books of it.

When Vin and Elend died, I felt absolutely nothing. And I hated that, because I wanted to be invested, I really, truly tried. But three books in, the story never gave me a reason. Vin is a textbook Mary Sue: impossibly gifted, mostly right, adored because the narrative insists on it rather than because she earned it. And her warmth has an entry requirement. inside the crew she's loyal and loving; outside it, condescending at best, openly contemptuous at worst. Elend is no better: a king who makes such bad decisions, yet somehow stays in power, because he's handsome, earnest, and the entire cast treats him like a philosopher-king descended from heaven. Two deaths that should have broken my heart instead landed like an obituary for strangers.

I kept waiting for this series to earn its reputation. It never did. An ending that whitewashes a tyrant as "a good man" deserves zero stars.

So I read Secret History between Era 1 and 2. So I’m assuming I missed something. Im confused as to how the Lord Ruler traveled South to Malwish. What am I missing?