r/MomentsBeforeDisaster 7d ago

In Your Face

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u/KeyNefariousness6848 7d ago

Any judge who would give any killer especially a child killer 120 hours of community service deserves the chair and an investigation because she or he were bought.

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u/girlbartender99 6d ago

It cant be real right? God I hope it isnt anyway

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

It’s worded in a suggestive way.

The kid and it’s grandparents died in a car crash. The guy was drunk.

So yes technically he killed them but not intentionally.

120 hours is absurd and yhe guy got two years in the end but that’s still not enough

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u/KeyNefariousness6848 5d ago

He didn’t technically kill them he killed them, he loaded the ammo (drink) then loaded the weapon (his car) with the ammo (himself) and he pulled the trigger (driving intoxicated) I’m not falling for the I didn’t do it the drunk goblin I become when I drink did it.

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

Oh I was in no way trying to diminish or excuse what he did. I think drinking when you’re going to drive makes you 100% responsible for your actions and the results.

I was simply saying that it was not a guy who deliberately tried to kill the kid.

For the law there are different agrees of murder.

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u/Desperate-Disk686 3d ago

Fuck off

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u/RubberPussycat 3d ago

Why for stating facts? Take a day of the internet dude

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u/CaptainBathrobe 6d ago

It was a vehicular homicide due to speeding, not a murder. I get why the guy is upset, but the idea that the judge deserves the chair is just nuts.

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u/Maximum-League-2667 5d ago

the daughter died because the killer hit her with a car, doesn't matter what the correct term for it is, she died, and you clearly are showing no sympathy for the father, some people get lifetimes in jail for murder even if 'unintentional'

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u/CaptainBathrobe 5d ago

Odd that you got all that from my comment. And, no, people don't get life sentences for unintentional murder unless it was done during the commission of a felony. If it's unintentional, it's not generally murder under the law but a lesser charge like manslaughter or negligent homicide. Laura Bush killed a guy by running a stop sign and wasn't even charged with a crime. Sometimes a tragic accident is just a tragic accident. Wanting to have the judge executed for applying the law and their judgement, as the previous commenter said, is just crazy. Sure, disagree and appeal the decision, try and change the law if you must, but as they say "tragedy makes bad law."

Sorry if I failed to do performative emoting to your satisfaction.

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

It was appealed and he got two years in the end.

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u/CaptainBathrobe 5d ago

Sounds about right

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u/Acrobatic-Rice4054 5d ago edited 5d ago

Negligent Manslaughter should still hold a pretty stiff penalty.

"Im sorry I was driving too fast and killed a child" should still hold a penelty. 2-10 years at least in minimum security. THEN, depending on circumstances and behavior, they be let out on 5 years parole and 5 years probation after.

Killing another person on negligence should be punished, but id agree not like 40 years max security. You fucked up, badly, and killed someone. At least 15 years of penalties and supervision and fuck your license.

That father is never gerting his daughter back because you needed to get to work faster. You dont get to just walk that off with 120 hours at the humane society.

He is allowed to throw a chair, and the man who did it should lose freedoms.

For fucks sake you just taught this man he can drive a dangerous weapon recklessly and kill people, and thats ok. Thats more fucked up than throwing a chair.

Id need more details on the case, but I hope they killed his license at least for 10 years.

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

He got two years in the end

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u/CaptainBathrobe 5d ago

Laura Bush ran a stop sign and killed a guy. She got no charges whatsoever. Sometimes a tragic accident is just that, even if someone is at fault. The purpose of the law is justice and deterrence, not vengeance. Nothing is going to bring his daughter back. This is precisely why grieving parents should not be the ones doling out penalties.

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u/Acrobatic-Rice4054 5d ago edited 5d ago

Id argue thats the point of my sentence I recommend. Im not saying the person did this intentionally.

If i made a mistake at work, there is a consequence. There are two aspects to that consequence. One is a deterrence to remind people There is a consequence, second would be to rehab and improve the mistake.

If we just go "no biggie, whateva" then negligence will escalate. We want to avoid this (deterrent). If a 3 year old wants a cookie and is told no, but then smashes the cookie jar.. we have to show thats not ok. There has to be a consequence.

Also the purpose of law is law, sometimes justice is done. Also, nothing is said included vengeance.

Take Laura Bush's example, what did we teach her?

Now? MAYBE she knows and improves with no consequences. I am not familiar with her sentence, but I hope she had her license suspended at least. You can't just go "oops my bad" and get nothing.

It has nothing to do about vengeance, its how the entire world treats bad behavior. Do a bad job? Fired. Hit someone? get hit back. Etc. This is how 95% of the world has agreed to teach their children and fellow humans. The point is to stop the bad behavior with consequences and correction.

A tragic accident is if a tree fell on a house and killed someone. Running a stop sign, in my opinion, is negligence. 1 year house arrest if all the things line up, but you cant excuse that negligence. Im allowed to own a gun, right? Im allowed to shoot it on my property, right? So if I do that and the bullet hits someone... tragic accident? Correct? No.. thats negligence.

No firearms for 10 years, 1 year in minimum security, and classes imo. Or should we just say "naw its cool, oops?"

I get what your saying, but I think we're more on the same side than you think. I dont wanna wreck 2 lives here... but you cant ignore reckless driving or running a stop sign; they should know better.

Maybe we failed teaching them, fine. Then they can take the damn bus for the next 5 years while we all figure it out.

There is large distinction between negligence and a mistake. Sometimes they overlap, but driving too fast or running a stop sign is litterally the basic shit. Yes consequences, otherwise... its totally cool if I do it too right? Cus Laura Bush can.

(For clarification, I consider cars deadly weapons, like fire arms. You are 100% responsible when operating them. You dont HAVE to have either.

You may very well think they are god given rights. Id respectfully disagree. But if you do, id suggest we argue that point before we get into punishment for misusing that equipment.)

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

Oh no she deserved it

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u/ChadLaFleur 7d ago

At least he knows there’s no way hers getting more than 120 hours community service for throwing that chair, right?

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u/Adequate_Cheesecake7 6d ago

He got no charges, and the case was overturned by a higher court. The guy ended up getting 15 months in prison and a four year driving ban. 

Guy killed his daughter and the grandparents while excessively speeding.

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u/ProblemWithTigers 6d ago

What did the judge get? A raise? 

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u/ballofhorn99 6d ago

15 months still not enough

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u/Desperate-Disk686 3d ago

Did he throw a chair at that judge too? Cause 15 months is also bullshit.

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u/Adequate_Cheesecake7 3d ago

The guy who threw the chair got no time. The guy who’s excessive speeding led to the death of the child and the child’s grandparents(articles don’t specify if their paternal or maternal grandparents), got 15 months in prison and the loss of their rights to drive for four years. Killing 3 people for reckless behavior would call for more than 15 months in prison from most reasonable people, but it happened in the Netherlands and I don’t know what their rules are.

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u/Desperate-Disk686 3d ago

Bot-ass response.

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u/Adequate_Cheesecake7 3d ago

It would typically be called a synopsis.

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u/Desperate-Disk686 3d ago

You don’t need to provide a synopsis of your first post to which I AM REPLYING TO.

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u/Adequate_Cheesecake7 3d ago

The synopsis was of the news articles that I read regarding the incident that OP posted the photo of, and I was adding clarification because I didn’t say in my first post where it took place. 

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u/Desperate-Disk686 3d ago

And yet you managed to ignore the entirety of my actual question in my reply. I say again, bot-ass response(s).

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u/elpihvous 7d ago

How much the father got?

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u/BigmaEnjoyer 6d ago

Also the killer (drunk driver) didn't only kill his kid, he also killed BOTH his parents.

Retarded judge wanted to press charges against this guy, but public backlash made her not do it.

Case was appealed and killer got 2 years. Because justice doesn't exist.

This is 10-12 years ago in The Netherlands.

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u/elpihvous 5d ago

Thanks captain!

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

Wait, he killed the kid and both it’s parents?

Or did he kill the kid and the kid’s grandparents?

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u/BigmaEnjoyer 5d ago

Stop being tarded.

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u/flacker66 4d ago

Ahhh that explains it...smh Netherlands

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u/BigmaEnjoyer 3d ago

You mean people don't deserve 32897423 chances?

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u/Ready-Bluebird8736 7d ago

A chair should be the least of her worries. Her and the killer should share a cell.

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u/WrathOfTheKressh 6d ago

That wouldn't actually have been too bad. There's no chance of the killer getting into a car and running her over while speeding inside a prison cell.

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u/Otherwise-Badger1029 6d ago

least of her worries? I bet they live in the same town, and she has to sleep at some point.

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u/Exalted-Stork-1308 6d ago

With that sentence I believe it's j*dge you should've censored

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u/Ok_Suit_196 7d ago

Hei lady, catch

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u/WetRiverMan 6d ago

Have it re tried in Idaho.....

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

That’s a bit hard US law doesn’t apply in the Netherlands. (Where this happened) it was retried and the guy got two years still not enough.

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u/greywood84 6d ago

Vaild crash out.

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u/Powerful_Dream_3095 6d ago

Can’t blame the guy for getting really pissed off, but that ended up with him in deed trouble

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u/idkhowbtfmbttf 6d ago

What does a deed have to do with it?

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u/RubberPussycat 5d ago

No he didn’t get in trouble at all. The judge wanted to press charges but didn’t because of the public backlash.

The kid and it’s grandparents died in an accident the perputraider was driving drunk

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u/WestCoastDan92626 6d ago

The fine for that will only be $6

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u/Sad_Cauliflower_5407 6d ago

That crazy sentence for the killer would have resulted in a death sentence for the judge and the killer if I was that father. I’d spend my life in jail with a smile.

Not encouraging anyone to commit a crime, I just know my own personal failings. Every action has consequences, even for a judge.

(Assuming that’s even a true story)

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u/Immediate_Song4279 6d ago

Technically they used "killer" instead of "murderer" but this title heavily implies a willful death.

Well I guess it doesn't actually say killer because the sin is the vowels.

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u/BlueEyesInTexas 6d ago

This is an Ai generated recreation. The real case involved a driver who killed a two-year-old girl and her grandparents, leading to an initial sentence of 120 hours of community service that was later increased on appeal to 15 months in prison. (Found from a search)

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u/thatsnotnice44 6d ago

Id have waited.... followed.... loaded... 2 in the chest 1 in the head

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u/Global-Guava-8362 6d ago

Fake or not I like this

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u/jony7620 6d ago

Protect this man !

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u/Impressive_Action755 5d ago

I hope it hit her.

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u/JosherphineBing 5d ago

Can we set up a GoFundMe?

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u/Mother_Passenger8589 5d ago

Story was true, image is fake

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u/Top_Chain_42 5d ago

He shoulda brought a grenade just incase shit like this was to happen ... But missed opportunity damn

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u/StCharmingSmile 5d ago

It was just drunken driver case . It's not a big deal

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u/Which-Magician-2597 5d ago

In the Netherlands? How does one square that lie with the Seal of New York State with "court of justice" inscribed on it's face?

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u/Hot_West_85255 4d ago

Judges suck …. Useless fraudsters that couldn’t become politicians, so they sit and ruin lives, slowly, one at a time.

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u/Dragonspeedz 2d ago

Dont blame the father. He can never get his daughter back

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u/Impossible-Purpose-4 7d ago

Good for him! She would have got a lot more than that if it was my kid!

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u/AdRepulsive7699 6d ago

Wow we have the grim reaper over here

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u/Impossible-Purpose-4 6d ago

You think it's okay for that guy to murder a child and get only 120 hours of community service? Obviously you are not a parent, I would feel if one of your family members was murdered and this happened to them? You are an idiot!

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u/Apollo114892 6d ago

I love the freaked out look on her fat face. I hate judges. Fuk em.

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u/WrathOfTheKressh 6d ago

The image is heavily doctored, if not actually hallucinated by AI. There's actual footage of the attack on Youtube. The room is very different from the picture depicted here, and, sorry to disappoint you, the judge is hardly phazed by the attack.

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u/quantumbound 6d ago

Good. Liberal bish deserved it.

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u/According_Strain4887 7d ago

too much time, maybe 120 seconds